 maartenaElmoPremium
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| reply to Anonman
Re: 45 MB internet service said by Anonman :What they need to do is offer the HSI only customers a way to not have interleave profile so our ping does not have to suck.
I get like 0-12 correct blocks a day unless bad lightning and yet my ping to most things is 50-90ms... AT&T DNS server a lone has a 40ms ping delay for me... Thats sad. Every other provider can have a ms in the teens to at least they own DNS...
They should only require interleave for tv customers... bahh.. more speed is useless if in games and browsing your biggest delay is the latency part. For downloads its great though, nice fast speeds.
It's that way by design....If you require better latency for internet gaming, you would have to go with cable.
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said by fltelman:Anyone have details about a new 45mb internet using a 55 mb bonded profile?
I had a level2 tech explain they are in the process of rolling out 32 and upto 55mb service because I was bitching about only having 18mbit available with the att highrise close enough to hit with a 1 wood... yeah and their urban fiber loop 20 feet from here.
So i guess this rumor is true with the 55mbit.
Like mentioned in previous posts ... hopefully they wont require a bundle with tv or on vdsl2 ...and they will also implement these speeds on adsl2 (which is better for us that require low latency internet) |
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ohh
join:2011-07-16
San Jose, CA | reply to fltelman
Well, it would only make sense that they should offer faster internet to compete with other companies...
We will see :O I know people would order it IF the price is competitive. 
65$ for 24/3 is pretty steep already.
if it was 65$ 45/5+ or 55/5+ perhaps. It depends on how many tiers they add and how much price leverage they give etc. |
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| well ... in the stL metro area (home of the Cardinals ...YAY) charter mops up the floor with ATT ...regarding PQ and Internet speeds ... oddly some areas ATT still has a stranglehold on neighborhoods including downtown with archaic franchising agreements.
Being StL is charters hometown ... i would expect the various cities in the metro area to show charter a little more love ...
Sadly ..where charter isn't ... ATT has failed to upgrade their service to even the most basic Uverse requirements ... the 3 or 4 hd streams ... ect.
So i would expect ATT to only upgrade their speed tiers where they have real competition. |
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| said by StLCardsFan:Sadly ..where charter isn't ... ATT has failed to upgrade their service to even the most basic Uverse requirements ... the 3 or 4 hd streams ... ect.
Are you sure about that? |
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| reply to fltelman
If a 45 Mb service will be launched, I won't pay more then $75 for it. $65 is really at the top end of my budget for internet anyways, but if there is a say.... 45/5 service coming, I can probably squeeze out another $10 out of my budget, but it really isn't worth more then that in my opinion.
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| reply to dslfan90
in some of st. louis (or most) yes that is the case. Downtown uverse in most highrises doesn't exist ...well ipdslam does ..but not the real uverse... keep in mind st. louis city is not st. louis county.
and att will not install a mdu vrad without some 10 or 20 year non-compete contract...which is odd being most of downtown st. louis is less than 3000 feet from the downtown CO on pine street (the one i can hit with golfballs using a 1 wood) |
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| reply to houkouonchi
Yeap! If they offer a 45Mbps package to copper customers, whilst still limiting my 622Mbps/155Mbps 32:1 PON G.983 FTTU (»Re: Alcatel HONT-C: 155.52 Mbps upstream / 622.08 Mbps downstrea) to 18/1.5, then I'll certainly be even further amused! |
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| reply to StLCardsFan
said by StLCardsFan:in some of st. louis (or most) yes that is the case. Downtown uverse in most highrises doesn't exist ...well ipdslam does ..but not the real uverse... keep in mind st. louis city is not st. louis county.
and att will not install a mdu vrad without some 10 or 20 year non-compete contract...which is odd being most of downtown st. louis is less than 3000 feet from the downtown CO on pine street (the one i can hit with golfballs using a 1 wood)
Well, U-verse TV cannot be delivered via ipdslam.
I was asking about your comment that there are cities where people who do receive U-verse TV cannot receive 3 or 4 HD streams. All customers that have U-verse TV should be able to receive 3 or 4 HD streams depending on their distance from the VRAD. |
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| said by dslfan90 :said by StLCardsFan:in some of st. louis (or most) yes that is the case. Downtown uverse in most highrises doesn't exist ...well ipdslam does ..but not the real uverse... keep in mind st. louis city is not st. louis county.
and att will not install a mdu vrad without some 10 or 20 year non-compete contract...which is odd being most of downtown st. louis is less than 3000 feet from the downtown CO on pine street (the one i can hit with golfballs using a 1 wood)
Well, U-verse TV cannot be delivered via ipdslam. I was asking about your comment that there are cities where people who do receive U-verse TV cannot receive 3 or 4 HD streams. All customers that have U-verse TV should be able to receive 3 or 4 HD streams depending on their distance from the VRAD. Furthermore, I don't care how far you can hit a golf ball. Do you think being able to see something has any relationship to distance as the cable feet? |
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1 edit | well there certainly isnt 15000 feet of cable between me and the next building over... so yes it is somewhat relative.
My point about the building being no more than 3000 feet from most of st. louis city is that vrads could be installed in the highrise CO and uverse served to most of the city without the use of mdu's.
Actually ..if there was 15,000 feet of cable from my building to that one ... it only shows how crappy the networks really are and how much ATT as a company is in disarray.
IF cable was laid efficiently or is laid efficiently there shouldn't be a vast variance in cable ft v. line of site. |
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| reply to ConstantineM
But then..... MAYBE.... this elusive, secretive, maybe not-even-existing-but-who-knows, 55 Mbit profile, might just be for FTTH customers only.
Now THEN you would probably be happy. 
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| Above all else, I'm realistic, and realistically, there's an order of magnitude higher chance that either one of paxio.net, webpass.net or sonic.net would come and serve our building with symmetric 100/100 Mbps under 100$, than anything like 50 Mbps even on the downstream side from AT&T.  |
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| said by ConstantineM:Above all else, I'm realistic, and realistically, there's an order of magnitude higher chance that either one of paxio.net, webpass.net or sonic.net would come and serve our building with symmetric 100/100 Mbps under 100$, than anything like 50 Mbps even on the downstream side from AT&T.
well my sis "had" the uverse ftth and like you was limited to 18/1.5 which would crap out when she started turning tv's on.
needless to say she called charter and they gave her everything they offer with 60mbit internet for about 15 dollars cheaper monthly.
I guess I'm kinda with you on why ATT would not offer full line capacity to their greenfield ftth customers.... especially when its those same greendfield people that obviously have the money to spend. What a shitshow att has. |
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Springfield, MO | reply to fltelman
hmm if they did 40Mbps id drop mediacom for thm |
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| said by elios:hmm if they did 40Mbps id drop mediacom for thm
I think a good number of people would .... provided they don't force you to bundle it with tv and phone.
Like it or not ... dumb pipes will be the main revenue stream for any telco or cable company... thats inevitable ... its just a matter of when ..not if. |
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| reply to ohh
is AT&T aware of the lost opportunity cost, esp. w/ FTTU? BTW, whilst on this topic. AT&T appears really quite dumb, in that instead of offering above-market speeds to a handful of lucky customers with FTTH or minimal copper loops, and who'd be willing to pay more for the premium speeds, they simply wait until the whole technology becomes more outdated, and without any hardware upgrades whatsoever, simply push it to the max at the lowest income now at the point of being outdated, instead of offering it at a premium when it was brand new. WTF?
What's the life of 622/155 32:1 PON? Basically, 622 Mbps down and 155 Mbps up are shared in a non-exclusive way between 32 users. The "simple" average would be about 20 down / 5 up; the real average provisioning, considering that resources are shared, is more like 64/16. In reality, many people would still want 4/1 for cheap, but others who want to pay extra and above average, could have easily been sold 40/10 or 80/20 for close to 100 bucks, or even above (that is, many advanced users would pay that price for those speeds "yesterday"), without any noticeable service degradation. However, it's only now that everyone's already moaning that AT&T U-verse is too slow, AT&T may finally be considering about putting those speeds back on the table! How moronic does AT&T management have to be to have been writing off such a significant opportunity cost during all the prior years?
Now, "tomorrow" they'd probably have to start offering a 45Mbps package for the official price of today's 24Mbps one. Whereas "yesterday", they could have easily charged nearly twice as much for it as for 24Mbps. Notice that there are no last-mile network upgrades in between whatsoever. AT&T. Rethink possible. Meh. |
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| reply to fltelman
Re: 45 MB internet service Just outta curiosity, does pair bonding mean sending another copper wire, or use existing ones?
If they are sending a new wire, it seems a waste when they can send a fiber wire in its place. |
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| said by thatissick:Just outta curiosity, does pair bonding mean sending another copper wire, or use existing ones?
If they are sending a new wire, it seems a waste when they can send a fiber wire in its place.
They pick a second pair out of an existing cable. |
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Woodland Hills, CA | I don't know why they couldn't bond several dry circuits to get to a certain speed profile. There a 2 companies I know of market it as Ethernet over Copper. I have seen up to 8 dry circuits plugged into and Adtran via RJ11 right off the Nid. They just keep adding dry loops until they get to whatever profile the end user ordered. Theres really no reason that Att couldn't do this except if Adsl wouldn't work doing that. These other dry circuits have been H or Idsl. |
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