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DrStrange
Technically feasible
Premium
join:2001-07-23
West Hartford, CT
kudos:1
reply to Chubbysumo

Re: [Scam] Card Services relentless phone calls revisited

As long as the client owns the return number, that's fine. I agree with you that the scammers are probably using this system to break the law, though. They may or may not be offshore, but offshore would be cheaper and equally technically feasible so it's a strong probability.



AVD
Respice, Adspice, Prospice
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1
reply to Chubbysumo

said by Chubbysumo:

I can't find it right now, but there was a city in Wisconsin that started a municipal email news letter and was forced to give out all the email addresses that were receiving it from a public records request. Anyone can request voters lists, since it's considered public records. I am betting that they are getting a majority of their phone numbers from things like that because you can get voters lists from most states online without any hassle or fee, at nearly any time of day. Just ask any political candidate, or a campaign manager(Been there, done with that). I can walk to any courthouse, and request public voters lists, and they don't even question it, they just want to know which counties, and most of them can now be emailed in a format that these dialers can read from with no changes. don't call BS before you know.

the whole idea is that they get a known area code and exchange and go 0001-9999

for example NYC's general info number starts with (212)-692 so the auto dialer goes 212-692-0001 then

212-692-0002
212-692-0003
...
...
...
212-692-9997
212-692-9998
212-692-9999

It doesn't matter if only one number works, this is why they employ an auto dialer. The robot keeps dialing and dialing and dialing.
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The preceding posting is null and void in Arizona and any other jurisdiction where prohibited by law.

Whip

join:2009-01-23
Califon, NJ
reply to Ender3rd

971-239-1624



DeletedMedia

join:2012-06-23
reply to DrStrange

Arkansas sues Illegal robo-callers Associated Accounting Specialists Inc

»www.arkansasonline.com/news/2012···g-firms/

According to McDaniel’s office, the subjects of the lawsuits are: Associated Accounting Specialists Inc., of Port St. Lucie, Fla., and its owner, William Page; Business First Solutions Inc., of Orlando, Fla., and its owners, Jonathon Warren and Edward Warren; Financial Ladder Inc. of Saint Cloud, Fla., and its owners, Brenda Helfenstine and Antonia Helfenstine; Financial Management Partners Inc. of Maitland, Fla., and its owners, Betsy Valorose and Eric Pugh; and Kenneth Sallies of Winter Springs, Fla., former owner of the now-defunct Customer Global Services LLC.”

Missouri sues Roy/Randy Cox- Castle Rock Capital Management out of CA

»www.legalnewsline.com/news/23697···er-calls


Umitencho

join:2012-08-11
Jacksonville, FL

I hope this lawsuit actually goes somewhere.



AVD
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Premium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1

said by Umitencho:

I hope this lawsuit actually goes somewhere.

I hope I win the lottery so I can hire someone to screen my phone calls.
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DeletedMedia

join:2012-06-23
reply to Umitencho

Notice how the illegal robo-dialers and “cardholder services” siphon the money they’ve stolen- off to their foreign business transfer entities to Argentina and Hungary.
I’ve also seen Poland, and the Netherlands, just to name a few.

“Koster filed the lawsuit against Marketing Strategy Group of Hungary, Transfers Argentina SA of Argentina, Capital Solutions Group SA, Castle Rock Management SA, Castle Rock Capital Management and Randy Cox, Jr., a Calif. resident who is the owner of the five corporations.”

»www.legalnewsline.com/news/23697···er-calls

“Roy M Cox Jr.” has already been sued by the FTC.

»www.ftc.gov/opa/2011/12/roycox.shtm

So, who's this Randy Cox? One source indicates that “Roy Michael Cox” may be using “Randy Cox” as a possible alias name.

»www.veromi.com/Search.aspx?sType···by=&Age=


Umitencho

join:2012-08-11
Jacksonville, FL

I bet neither of those are their actual names unless they are that stupid. Then again this scam has been running this long.



starwatcher

@alltel.net
reply to Ender3rd

Watch how you play with them, They can be quite vindictive. One way they can get you back after you annoy them big time is they will place your number as a number for others to call to be placed on the "do not call list". The result, you will have to deal with real people calling you for days. Just wanted to let you all know.



DeletedMedia

join:2012-06-23

Record, and put em on youtube. They really hate that! We’ve got “thumbs down”, and warnings of suspension when posting the Truth about the slimebags, but the robo-calls, and typical idiot telemarketer calls have fallen off quite a bit.

Recent reports show quite an increase in the outsourced foreign, terrorist talking “service reps” again. When the heat is on the domestic call center scammers, they all run like rats, using foreign call centers. Then back to the domestic call centers, when the complaints about terrorist threats made by the jerks that cant properly speak English begin to mount up again.



Kibbles
Premium
join:1999-07-31
Mission Viejo, CA
reply to Ender3rd

I have noticed a huge drop in the "credit services" calls...I used to get 7-10 a week...now its maybe 1-2 a week...could the telephone company they were using dropped them?

What I used to do is cuss them out...now I just tell the caller that I will be over in 15 minutes...then hang up on them.
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»www.angryrenter.com/


wolfy339

join:2005-04-30
Edmonds, WA
reply to Ender3rd

They called 3x just this morning . Don't have CallerID so couldn't grab the numbers. Funny part is no one here has any credit card debt.



pc319
Premium
join:2002-04-24
North Royalton, OH
reply to Ender3rd

I really hope that this is the end for Rachel, but she's popped up again before.

From: »ftc.gov/opa/2012/11/robocalls.shtm

The FTC’s Law Enforcement Cases

The five complaints announced today were filed against the following companies and their principals: 1) Treasure Your Success, 2) Ambrosia Web Design, 3) A+ Financial Center, LLC, 4) The Green Savers, and 5) Key One Solutions, LLC. Each complaint alleges, among other things, that the defendants violated the FTC Act by misrepresenting that consumers who buy their services:

will have their credit card interest rates reduced substantially; and
will save thousands of dollars as a result of lowered credit card interest rates.
Four of the five complaints announced today also charge that the defendants violated the FTC Act by making other misrepresentations, such as claiming that consumers who buy their services will be able to pay off their debts much faster as a result of lowered credit card interest rates and making false claims about their refund policies.

The complaints also charge the defendants with multiple violations of the Telemarketing Sales Rule (TSR), for misrepresenting their services, calling numbers on the Do Not Call Registry, and collecting up-front fees. The TSR also specifically prohibits charging or receiving a fee in advance of providing debt relief services and misrepresenting the terms and conditions of debt relief services.

Finally, the complaints charge that the defendants are responsible for making illegal robocalls, in violation of the TSR. Nearly all pre-recorded telemarketing calls have been prohibited since September 1, 2009. In the FTC’s experience, companies such as these often hire others to make calls on their behalf. The FTC alleges in each case that the defendants themselves are legally responsible for making the robocalls.

The Commission votes authorizing the staff to file each complaint were 5-0. The complaints were filed in the U.S. district courts listed below. In filing the complaints, the FTC seeks to permanently stop the defendants’ allegedly illegal conduct. In each case, the court granted the FTC’s request for a temporary restraining order, which halts the operations pending further court proceedings.

The case against Treasure Your Success was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida against the following defendants: WV Universal Management, LLC, also doing business as Treasure Your Success; Global Financial Assist, LLC; Leading Production, LLC; Willy Plancher, individually and as a member of WV Universal Management, LLC; and Valbona Toska, individually and as a member of WV Universal Management, LLC.

The case against Ambrosia Web Design was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona against the following defendants: Ambrosia Web Design LLC, also doing business as AWD; Concord Financial Advisors LLC; CAM Services Direct LLC; AFB LLC; Western GPS LLC; Chris Ambrosia, individually and as a manager of Ambrosia Web Design LLC, AFB LLC, and CAM Services Direct LLC; and LeRoy Castine, a/k/a Lee Castine, individually and as a manager of Ambrosia Web Design LLC, Concord Financial Advisors LLC, AFB LLC, and Western GPS LLC.

The case against A+ Financial Center, LLC was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida against the following defendants: A+ Financial Center, LLC, also doing business as Accelerated Financial Centers, LLC; Accelerated Accounting Services LLC; Christopher L. Miano, individually and as the managing member of Accelerated Accounting Services LLC; and Dana M. Miano, individually and as the managing member of A+ Financial Center, LLC.

The case against The Green Savers, LLC was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida against the following defendants: The Greens Savers, LLC, also doing business as Elite Services and Advanced Data Solutions; Christopher Adams, individually and as a member of The Green Savers, LLC; and Vikash Jawalapersad, also d/b/a Pavac, Inc., individually and as a member of The Green Savers, LLC.

The case against Key One Solutions, LLC was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona against the following defendants: ELH Consulting, LLC, also doing business as Proactive Planning Solutions; Purchase Power Solutions, LLC; Allied Corporate Connection, LLC; Complete Financial Strategies, LLC; 3Point14 Consulting, LLC, also d/b/a Elite Planning Group; Key Tech Software Solutions, LLC, also d/b/a Key One Solutions; Emory L. Holley IV, a/k/a Jack Holley, individually and as the sole member of ELH Consulting, LLC; Lisa Miller, individually and as the sole member of Allied Corporate Connection, LLC, Complete Financial Strategies, LLC, and Purchase Power Solutions, LLC; Rares Stelea, individually and as the sole member of 3Point14 Consulting, LLC; and Justin Journay, individually and as the sole member of Key Tech Software Solutions, LLC.



zulater

@cox.net

Bah!
Hoped that the recent FCC smackdown would have stopped it but I just got another call from "Rachel" today and asked about the FCC ruling to be funny and they said "we'll be around for a loooooong time *click*"
Oh well, we can keep wishing.


Umitencho

join:2012-08-11
Jacksonville, FL
reply to Ender3rd

I got a call myself.

417-800-2301



DeletedMedia

join:2012-06-23
reply to zulater

Keep the Faith!, People.
We are making some progress. Keep posting robo-call info right on the FTC & FCC Facebook page! Finally-one at a time- it gets attention. AWD's violations were reported to the AZ AG last December 2011.
And,
Last week, the FTC sued Ambrosia Web Design/Concord Financial Advisors, LLC/Key One Solutions, operating in Arizona.

»www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/1223174/


wolfy339

join:2005-04-30
Edmonds, WA
reply to Ender3rd

Oops, wrong thread.