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John KD6VKW

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Re: High strength unlicensed FM transmission?

The FCC doesn't entirely lack "the authority to confiscate equipment," as they sometime seize equipment of radio amateurs whose licences have been revoked. The American Radio Relay League, an organization of hams, has regular bulletins to which I subscribe. We learn of the monetary forfeitures and equipment seizures. True, they're under-powered and most of their actions are against egregious violations.


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said by John KD6VKW :

The FCC doesn't entirely lack "the authority to confiscate equipment," as they sometime seize equipment of radio amateurs whose licences have been revoked.

The FCC lacks the authority the seize equipment which is why they bring the U.S. Marshals with them.

The reason is they are not a law enforcement agency, they are a regulatory agency, they can fine and sanction all day long but they cannot arrest individuals or seize property, for that they must involve the DOJ, heck they don't even have the authority to collect on the fines they do issue should the person being fined not pay, again they have to turn that over to DOJ for action.

Now someone may voluntarily turn over equipment to them, but if they are told to go whistle in the wind there is nothing they can do about it other than issue fines and go to the DOJ for further action and prosecution.

Furthermore any fines they do collect go to the Treasury not the FCC, as such they are not incentivized to take any actions to begin with.

Also while they do issue pressers in which they state equipment was seized they are carefully worded failing to mention the FCC did not actually do the seizure, furthermore they will not gain anything from the public auction of the seized property by the Marshals office or local enforcement agency who actually did the seizure.

True, they're under-powered and most of their actions are against egregious violations.

Tell me about it, about a year back we had a pirate who was running a kilowatt at 99.5 and splattering all over the FM band, mainly tearing up WKIS on 99.9, for months station management complained to the FCC who’s only actions where to mail the pirate NOV’s, finally the station got the Broward Sheriff’s Office to raid the pirate who was working out of an apartment in Pembroke Pines and they arrested him under FL’s illegal broadcasting law and seized the station.

Essentially the FCC did nothing, seized nothing and collected nothing…

Wayne
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DrStrange
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If they can't sieze the equipment [without a warrant], at least they could have the decency to leave the NOV pinned to the coax.



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said by DrStrange:

If they can't sieze the equipment [without a warrant], at least they could have the decency to leave the NOV pinned to the coax.

Thats what frosted the station owner, his engineer found the pirate they provided the address including the apartment number and all the FCC did was mail out violations never once stopping by and taking any actual action against the pirate.

And this is nothing new right now there are at least two pirates operating here in Broward and I am not taking a few milliwatts, these guys have some serious coverage, one is interfering with WKCP on 89.7 and the other is on AM usually just below 1580.

Wayne
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My condolences. I thought the pirate in Hartford on 103.3 [in operation for several years running at least 100 watts, has gotten several NOVs (if you want to calculate power, look at the signal levels recorded in the NOVs!), has not been shut down] was an anomalous situation rather than the rule.

I know how to get them to pay attention to a pirate: A false flag operation! Impersonate the existing pirate for a day or two [running higher power!] and start streaming lefty news feeds. Maybe get a text-reader to read the World Socialists web page or People's Weekly. While pirates impersonating commercial stations won't get shut down for years, political clandestines get prompt, discourteous service.



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said by DrStrange:

I know how to get them to pay attention to a pirate

The fastest way to get the FCC’s and more alphabet agencies attention is for a pirate operator to interfere with anything FAA related.

Wayne
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SmokChsr
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reply to DrStrange

said by DrStrange:

I know how to get them to pay attention to a pirate: A false flag operation! Impersonate the existing pirate for a day or two [running higher power!] and start streaming lefty news feeds.

In reality, the FCC really doesn't care what the programming is. They go by complaints, and as Wayne said a complaint indicating a threat to public safety gets a prompt response. All others can wait.


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reply to joako
The older FM transmitters for personal devices were found to be creating more power than allowed. I remember this being big news about 5 years ago. I guess NPR pushed the FCC to crack down and even recall devices.
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