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[MMA] UFC 137 - Saturday Night

I hope Diaz whoops Penn's ass, like GSP did when the pansy quit after 4 rounds.
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He didn't quit..his brother threw in the towel. Just as Hoyce Gracie's father did against Sakuraba.

But this is one of the best matchups in UFC history. Both fight very similar. Both are Gracie Black Belts and are probably the best 2 boxers in MMA. If it was a 5 round fight I'd lean toward Diaz due to his insane cardio. I don't see either fighter being able to finish one another due to they're being so similar and both having great chins. A 3 rounder I kinda lean slightly to BJ just because I think he's a slightly more technical boxer and can score points with his jab to win a 3 round fight. Also Diaz is very susceptible to cuts which never looks good in the eyes of the judges. In a close fight the fighter that "looks" worse for wear can sway judges.

Plus no one knows what kind of frame of mind Diaz is in. He no showed and disappeared for several days when he was supposed to fight GSP and got taken out of that fight by Dana White and was replaced by Carlos Condit.

reply to Loco

Freddie Roach better stick to the sport of boxing. And who cares what Freddie's opinion is anyway ? ....just like who cares what my opinion is.

BJ is gonna get knocked the fuck out. You'll see ! LMFAO...

The fact is that BJ is a ground guy. Hendo is a striker.....he knocks mother#uckers out !

Anderson Silva, another striker.....same with Chris Leben and many others in the UFC. BJ Penn is not a striker.
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With all due respect...Freddie trains world champions. And BJ, GSP, and Anderson Silva have all sought out his training. I'd say his opnion on boxing skill is probably a little more accurate than yours or mine.

BJ is 16-7-2 7 TKO's (47%) 6 submissions(37%) 3 deciisions(18.75%)

Diaz is 25-7-0 13 TKO's (52%)8 submissions (32%) 4 decisions (16%)

And actually Hendo's base is wrestling. He happens to have crazy KO power. A striker to me uses all limbs no just hands. Anderson Silva I would consider a striker, but he has a black belt in BJJ as well. The other you mentioned including Diaz and Penn I would consider boxers with excellent ground games. Chris Leben is just a brawler.

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From ufc.com's fighter bios

BJ Penn "Summary: Excellent submissions, strong standup "

Nick Diaz "Summary: Jiu Jitsu, boxing "

Anderson Silva "Summary: Very Well Rounded - Phenomenal Striker "

Dan Henderson "Summary: Mental attitude, wrestling, knockout power in both hands "

Chris Leben "Summary: Punching power, great chin "

UFC 137 Countdown

reply to Loco

Your both extremely knowledgeable about the sport so glad to hear you've both enjoyed some friendly wagering activity.

Anyone know if the Penn/Diaz fight will be 5 rounds? I heard a while ago that they were going to make all main events 5 rounds, regardless if its a championship bout or not.
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reply to Loco

said by Loco:

said by sailor:

said by Loco:

Freddie Roach better stick to the sport of boxing. And who cares what Freddie's opinion is anyway ? ....just like who cares what my opinion is.

BJ is gonna get knocked the fuck out. You'll see ! LMFAO...

You and pro7070 should make a little side bet on the outcome.

We've done it before....he's up a 20 spot on me.

I'm always game. And if i lose, i _always_ pay up through PayPal..:+)

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reply to Loco
Pro's Picks
Pros Picking Diaz: 13
Pros Picking Penn: 13
No Pick: 4
»www.sherdog.com/news/articles/UF···az-36674

I agree with Travis Lutter's opnion
"Travis Lutter: If B.J. fights a smart fight and takes Nick down, I would bet on B.J. But if he chooses to fight a standup fight, I think it would be like flipping a coin on who is going to win, with the edge going to Nick. Nick is busier with his hands and has the longer reach. Both guys have great chins. I do think B.J.’s Brazilian jiu-jitsu is better than Nick’s, along with his wrestling. "

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Train for 3 rounds only? So if he were given a championship fight because of another fighter's injury, he'd turn it down?

LOL, what a steamin' pile of BS.
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reply to Loco
Either way, it's gonna be good. Just like I think the original GSP/Condit fight would have been great.

It will all depend on which BJP shows up to the fight. If he's not completely focused mentally, and physically, then I predict a Diaz win, mainly based the way he just grinds opponents' will down to nothing.

I'm thinking Diaz is the one that might come in unfocused. He pretty much threw away a big money title shot by missing the press conferences and lying to Dana white missing 2 flights to Canada. Honestly I thought he would have been cut.

Yeah, Dana has a pretty short fuse, so I'm kinda surprised as well. And yeah, I could also see Diaz coming in unfocused, and even possibly underestimating BJ, thinking he's got it in the bag.

So BJ Penn loses to Diaz, and retires...

I was pretty surprised by that. But we've seen that before, and fighters come back.

CroCop retired as well after losing to Roy Nelson, and that I agree with, IMO CroCop should have retired a while ago. It sucks that he never really succeeded in the UFC.
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