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Re: [Rant] Holy Hard Drive rip off

Prices starting to creep down....WD 1.5TB $89.

»www.ncix.ca/products/ind ··· oid=1141

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said by elwoodblues:

Bestbuy has a 2TB external drive , Hitachi Touo for $99.

Pretty damn cheap (these days) if you ask me. Older model I suspect, they have USB 3.0 models these days.

»www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/pro ··· L-120124

 
I saw that too.

Not the same make and model, but the 2TB externals at 2010 (yes 2010) Boxing sales never got below that price (Seagates, though).

I take it that Hitchi has ramped up production to take advantage of the current pricing curve.

Where are THEIR drives made ?

BTW, WD 2.5GB externals were either $140 or $150 at BB just before this Hitachi.

However, someone said that those were kinda soggy.

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said by FaxCap:

Prices starting to creep down....WD 1.5TB $89.

»www.ncix.ca/products/ind ··· oid=1141

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Not bad, you used to be able to buy 2TB for 10 bucks less even 20 when on sale. By now the price for 2TB should have been in the sub 60 range, on a regular basis.

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I put in the third hotswap bay now, hooked it up to the two RAID cards, and tested each slot with a drive.

The bottom unit is empty at the moment (only 10 drives out of the 15 bays), but it'll make adding another 5 drives a snap when the time comes. Just have to screw the drievs into the empty trays, stick them in, and add the new vdev to the pool.

                                                 capacity
pool                                          alloc   free
--------------------------------------------  -----  -----
tank                                          6.52T  11.6T
  raidz1                                      6.49T  2.57T
    ata-WDC_WD20EARX-00PASB0_WD-WMAZA602****      -      -
    ata-WDC_WD20EARX-00PASB0_WD-WMAZA602****      -      -
    ata-WDC_WD20EARX-00PASB0_WD-WMAZA602****      -      -
    ata-WDC_WD20EARX-00PASB0_WD-WMAZA604****      -      -
    ata-WDC_WD20EARX-00PASB0_WD-WMAZA606****      -      -
  raidz1                                      22.4G  9.04T
    ata-WDC_WD20EADS-00R6B0_WD-WCAVY135****       -      -
    ata-WDC_WD20EADS-00R6B0_WD-WCAVY135****       -      -
    ata-WDC_WD20EADS-00R6B0_WD-WCAVY133****       -      -
    ata-WDC_WD20EADS-00R6B0_WD-WCAVY136****       -      -
    ata-WDC_WD20EADS-00R6B0_WD-WCAVY136****       -      -
--------------------------------------------  -----  -----
 

The vdevs in the pool are currently rather unbalanced, as you can see.

Hey can you give some info how you did all that and the parts you got I'd like to do a set-up like that myself.

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I did. On the previous page.

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BB has a 3TB Seagate External USB 3 drive right now for $159, that's only 20 bucks more then I paid in the fall for the same unit.

»www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/pro ··· L-120131

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»www.computerworld.com/s/ ··· _edpicks

AH damn it looks like HD prices will stay up for a good while.

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said by TOPDAWG:

»www.computerworld.com/s/ ··· _edpicks

AH damn it looks like HD prices will stay up for a good while.

No competition in the marketplace, who didn't see this coming when all these mergers were allowed.

Hey but unfettered capitalism is good right? It creates jobs.. in Thailand.

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I really see a shot for the SSD industry to step in here if they can get capacity up while getting the prices down.

I'm already running an SSD on my boot drive. I may end up getting another SSD for my short term storage drive as well, rather than another HDD.

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But you are not going to get 3tb capacity, that's just not in the cards *YET*, and as a consequence you are stuck with mechanical or hybrid drives.

On the good news front, that article noted that they plan 12tb drives by 2016.

WOW!

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I'm running a hybrid setup here in my office computer and in my laptop at home (my home desktop runs all apps directly off SSD, magnetic storage isn't hybridized). Based on my experience, they are a nice interim solution until solid state is able to match the capacity of magnetic storage.

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SSDs will not catch up with magnetic storage any time soon (if ever). Why? Because SSD cost-per-gigabyte (which is synonymous with capacity) has been decreasing at a rate similar to that of magnetic storage. There's also a limit to how small we can shrink transistors...

Intel thinks it might hit 8nm by 2018, which would give us a density increase of ~7.6x over today. If we apply that directly to SSD prices, they might get us as low as $150-200 for a 1TB SSD, but by then you'll be able to get a 12-16 TB HDD...

It can't get much smaller than that either. A transistor made out of just 7 atoms is still 4nm wide... Somewhere in that ballpark we'll hit a hard wall and transistors will stop getting smaller. There may be other ways to scale, like 3D chips, although that would eventually max out too.
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NCIX has on sale for $119.99 a SSD OCZ Petrol 128GB Sata3

»www.ncix.ca/products/ind ··· oid=1315

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3tb Seagate Hard drive at TD for $199.

»www.tigerdirect.ca/appli ··· -3000AS2
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NCIX has a Sata III 2TB Seagate Hard drive (in store only) on sale this weekend for $120.

That's not bad.
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Looks like prices are starting to drop, NCIX has a WD 3TB Green for $169 this weekend, IN STORE only.

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I just bought this Synology DS1512+ 5 bay NAS last week and I need to finish filling it up with a few 3TB drives. I'm glad to see prices starting to come down.

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said by jmacd27:

I just bought this Synology DS1512+ 5 bay NAS last week and I need to finish filling it up with a few 3TB drives. I'm glad to see prices starting to come down.

Too small, when I get around to it, it's gotta be in the 10-15 bay range, to hold all my content online.

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said by elwoodblues:

said by jmacd27:

I just bought this Synology DS1512+ 5 bay NAS last week and I need to finish filling it up with a few 3TB drives. I'm glad to see prices starting to come down.

Too small, when I get around to it, it's gotta be in the 10-15 bay range, to hold all my content online.

That one can scale up to 15.

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I went with a Thermitake Case that holds 6 drives internally with another 4 in the 5 1/4 slots. Also has space for an external hot swap and another 2 internally. With my external NAS cases and 2 eSATA cards it holds up to 22 drives easily.

running unRAID at the moment. Considering (of all things) converting it to Windows 8 when that is out and stable.

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said by elwoodblues:

Looks like prices are starting to drop, NCIX has a WD 3TB Green for $169 this weekend, IN STORE only.

Yea, prices are getting better... but they're still not back to where they were.

As I posted earlier, before the floods I picked up my 3TB Greens from NCIX for $139. Typically you'd expect a year later for things to be cheaper than they were the year before.

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I saw that, but I don't want a whole mess of cases, I want one case.
I've got lots of time, prices will come down, and maybe a homebrew solution like Guspaz did is the solution.

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Well I am not so grandiose Im going to pick me up a dns 325 for $119 at tiger direct.ca Too bad I missed the seagate 1.5TB for $79 ended last night. :-(

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Well I am not so grandiose Im going to pick me up a dns 325 for $119 at tiger direct.ca Too bad I missed the seagate 1.5TB for $79 ended last night. :-(

It's not about being Grandiose, if I do something I'm going to do it right, I currently have 19 hard drives (of various sizes from 500gb to 3TB) on my shelves.

A 2 or 3 bay(even a 5 bay) is not going to cut it, once HD's come down dramatically I'll start stocking up on 3 or 4tb hard drives build the NAS with those drives. Raid 5 it, It should be under 10 drives. And I still have a huge amount to rip and re-encode.

This one massive ongoing project.

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HOly cow, your not kidding.
I should get a list of your inventory
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Seagate talks 60TB drives
»www.extremetech.com/comp ··· heir-way

Seagate has demonstrated the first terabit-per-square-inch hard drive, almost doubling the areal density found in modern hard drives. Initially this will result in 6TB 3.5-inch desktop drives and 2TB 2.5-inch laptop drives, but eventually Seagate is promising up to 60TB and 20TB respectively.

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said by Anav:

Im going to pick me up a dns 325 for $119 at tiger direct.ca

You know, a few people like the D-Link units. My dns-323 on the other hand is a piece of crap that cooked 3 hard drives before I shut the fscker down permanently.

I switched to the Netgear units.

IMHO, you'd be wise to do a little research.

Mike

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HOly cow, your not kidding.
I should get a list of your inventory

They're just Linux Distro's freely available on the Internet.
I'm just building my own repository.
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How are prices these days? Have they come down?

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They've come down from their high, but not back where they were. What might be coming down a little better is say a 3TB internal.

Before flooding $80 for 2TB, now $120

Before flooding $?? for 3TB, now $180

I'm pretty sure before flooding the 3TB was more expensive as I'd have likely been buying them if they'd been say $120 (as it would have been the same per TB price).