Gone Premium Member join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON |
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Re: [Rant] Holy Hard Drive rip offI'm running a hybrid setup here in my office computer and in my laptop at home (my home desktop runs all apps directly off SSD, magnetic storage isn't hybridized). Based on my experience, they are a nice interim solution until solid state is able to match the capacity of magnetic storage. |
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GuspazGuspaz MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC 1 edit |
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SSDs will not catch up with magnetic storage any time soon (if ever). Why? Because SSD cost-per-gigabyte (which is synonymous with capacity) has been decreasing at a rate similar to that of magnetic storage. There's also a limit to how small we can shrink transistors...
Intel thinks it might hit 8nm by 2018, which would give us a density increase of ~7.6x over today. If we apply that directly to SSD prices, they might get us as low as $150-200 for a 1TB SSD, but by then you'll be able to get a 12-16 TB HDD...
It can't get much smaller than that either. A transistor made out of just 7 atoms is still 4nm wide... Somewhere in that ballpark we'll hit a hard wall and transistors will stop getting smaller. There may be other ways to scale, like 3D chips, although that would eventually max out too. |
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vue666 (banned)Let's make Canchat better!!! join:2007-12-07 |
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2012-Feb-16 10:21 am
NCIX has on sale for $119.99 a SSD OCZ Petrol 128GB Sata3 » www.ncix.ca/products/ind ··· oid=1315 |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
3tb Seagate Hard drive at TD for $199. » www.tigerdirect.ca/appli ··· -3000AS2 |
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NCIX has a Sata III 2TB Seagate Hard drive (in store only) on sale this weekend for $120.
That's not bad. |
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Looks like prices are starting to drop, NCIX has a WD 3TB Green for $169 this weekend, IN STORE only. |
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jmacd27 Premium Member join:2001-05-13 Toronto, ON |
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I just bought this Synology DS1512+ 5 bay NAS last week and I need to finish filling it up with a few 3TB drives. I'm glad to see prices starting to come down. |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
said by jmacd27:I just bought this Synology DS1512+ 5 bay NAS last week and I need to finish filling it up with a few 3TB drives. I'm glad to see prices starting to come down. Too small, when I get around to it, it's gotta be in the 10-15 bay range, to hold all my content online. |
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donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON |
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2012-Mar-31 6:13 am
said by elwoodblues:said by jmacd27:I just bought this Synology DS1512+ 5 bay NAS last week and I need to finish filling it up with a few 3TB drives. I'm glad to see prices starting to come down. Too small, when I get around to it, it's gotta be in the 10-15 bay range, to hold all my content online. That one can scale up to 15. |
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DevanchyaSmile Premium Member join:2003-12-09 Ajax, ON |
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I went with a Thermitake Case that holds 6 drives internally with another 4 in the 5 1/4 slots. Also has space for an external hot swap and another 2 internally. With my external NAS cases and 2 eSATA cards it holds up to 22 drives easily.
running unRAID at the moment. Considering (of all things) converting it to Windows 8 when that is out and stable. |
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said by elwoodblues:Looks like prices are starting to drop, NCIX has a WD 3TB Green for $169 this weekend, IN STORE only. Yea, prices are getting better... but they're still not back to where they were. As I posted earlier, before the floods I picked up my 3TB Greens from NCIX for $139. Typically you'd expect a year later for things to be cheaper than they were the year before. |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
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I saw that, but I don't want a whole mess of cases, I want one case. I've got lots of time, prices will come down, and maybe a homebrew solution like Guspaz did is the solution. |
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AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just Acerbic Premium Member join:2001-07-16 Dartmouth, NS |
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Well I am not so grandiose Im going to pick me up a dns 325 for $119 at tiger direct.ca Too bad I missed the seagate 1.5TB for $79 ended last night. :-( |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
said by Anav:Well I am not so grandiose Im going to pick me up a dns 325 for $119 at tiger direct.ca Too bad I missed the seagate 1.5TB for $79 ended last night. :-( It's not about being Grandiose, if I do something I'm going to do it right, I currently have 19 hard drives (of various sizes from 500gb to 3TB) on my shelves. A 2 or 3 bay(even a 5 bay) is not going to cut it, once HD's come down dramatically I'll start stocking up on 3 or 4tb hard drives build the NAS with those drives. Raid 5 it, It should be under 10 drives. And I still have a huge amount to rip and re-encode. This one massive ongoing project. |
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AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just Acerbic Premium Member join:2001-07-16 Dartmouth, NS |
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2012-Mar-31 12:02 pm
HOly cow, your not kidding. I should get a list of your inventory |
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MaynardKrebsWe did it. We heaved Steve. Yipee. Premium Member join:2009-06-17 |
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Seagate talks 60TB drives» www.extremetech.com/comp ··· heir-waySeagate has demonstrated the first terabit-per-square-inch hard drive, almost doubling the areal density found in modern hard drives. Initially this will result in 6TB 3.5-inch desktop drives and 2TB 2.5-inch laptop drives, but eventually Seagate is promising up to 60TB and 20TB respectively. |
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dillyhammerSTART me up Premium Member join:2010-01-09 Scarborough, ON |
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said by Anav:Im going to pick me up a dns 325 for $119 at tiger direct.ca You know, a few people like the D-Link units. My dns-323 on the other hand is a piece of crap that cooked 3 hard drives before I shut the fscker down permanently. I switched to the Netgear units. IMHO, you'd be wise to do a little research. Mike |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
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said by Anav:HOly cow, your not kidding. I should get a list of your inventory They're just Linux Distro's freely available on the Internet. I'm just building my own repository. |
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How are prices these days? Have they come down? |
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A Lurkerthat's Ms Lurker btw Premium Member join:2007-10-27 Wellington N |
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2012-Apr-12 5:10 pm
They've come down from their high, but not back where they were. What might be coming down a little better is say a 3TB internal.
Before flooding $80 for 2TB, now $120
Before flooding $?? for 3TB, now $180
I'm pretty sure before flooding the 3TB was more expensive as I'd have likely been buying them if they'd been say $120 (as it would have been the same per TB price). |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
There wasn't much of a supply of 3TB drives before the flood, 2TB was the sweet spot.
Still outrageously expensive, but that's what you get when the market is dominated by two players. |
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2012-Apr-13 10:15 am
Thanks for the info guys. I'm still going to hold off on HDD's but I am going to purchase a ~60GB SATA II SSD for my gf's aging netbook, which I believe is just SATA I. |
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