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Re: [Rant] Holy Hard Drive rip off

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8gb of SO-DIMM!, laptop?

Dual Channel kit. 2x4GB. It's amusing because the laptop is a small little Acer TimelineX, size of a netbook but it has a dual core ULV Core i3 and 8GB RAM.

Want to put a faster hard drive into it though, now is not the time to buy that haha.
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SSDs should be fine to buy, they're not going up in price..

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I'm in the market for more storage, I'm starting up my "Digitize Elwoods DVD's" for the winter again, and was shocked at the price of the drives....

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I was in Ottawa yesterday and discovered the situation at a Canada Computers branch, where they cut the price number off all shelf tags and said to ASK the price.

Big Box stores have NOT yet adjusted prices, so we should shop THERE until THEY need to restock.

I was in both a Walmart and a BestBuy, and that seems to be THEIR way of handling things so far.

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said by Gami00:

SSDs should be fine to buy, they're not going up in price..

I'm too cheap to put a small SSD into a laptop.

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Right, but the cheapest SSDs are at what, $1.30/GB now? Before the flood, HDDs were as low as $0.034/GB

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said by donoreo:

I have hard drives just sitting around doing nothing at the moment. I am good

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[have not read whole thread yet]

I have 3 or 4 TB of unused storage ATM, so I should be OK for this year anyway.

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Big box stores were always outrageously expensive to start with, when it came to items like hard drives. Now them market is just catching up.

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I just bought 5x Western Digital 3TB drives from DirectCanada for an average of $150.77 each, not five minutes ago....

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You're OK too.

But I wonder how ANGELO is doing ?

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said by Davesnothere:

said by Guspaz:

I just bought 5x Western Digital 3TB drives from DirectCanada for an average of $150.77 each, not five minutes ago....

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You're OK too.

But I wonder how ANGELO is doing ?

He's busy creating the world's largest wireless mesh, too busy to be dealing with Linux distros.

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I wasn't quite desperate yet, and wasn't planning to upgrade for another few months, but since it will be a very long time before prices come back down...

NCIX modified my order. They removed three of my five drives, but did allow me to pay $140 per drive (regular price $260).

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said by elwoodblues:

Big box stores were always outrageously expensive to start with, when it came to items like hard drives. Now them market is just catching up.

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Internal drives, I agree with you, but I have found USB externals to have been generally competitive.

Worst case, you can rob them for their drives if you wish to deploy them internally, and replace them to the enclosures later.

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Even though I got my 5x2TB from Futureshop ($110 each), I'm thinking I should keep the NCIX order (2x3TB, $140 each) because at worst I can sell them for a heck of a lot more than $140...
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said by Guspaz:

Even though I got my 5x2TB from Futureshop ($110 each), I'm thinking I should keep the NCIX order (2x3TB, $140 each) because at worst I can sell them for a heck of a lot more than $140...

Thats good to hear
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yah, but he did say he wanted to put a "fast" hard drive in there..

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Latest @ Future Shop (prices seem unhiked so far) :

EXTERNAL USB desktop drives in the 1.5 to 2 TB range from $90 thru $110 each.

Various warranty lengths, USB types, brands and models - mostly Seagate.

Some show in stock ONLY in the stores, others both in the stores and online.

BESTBUY Canada is modifying their website on-the-fly as I looked at it.

For some models, I get a 404 on the product detail page links, and others are there, but the product page price is increased from the price shown in the group listings.

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I bought a 3TB USB 3.0 external drive for $130 a few weeks ago. That same drive now is pushing $200.

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As long as everyone understands that those are invariably low-RPM green drives. Perfect for USB externals provided it's a good brand that is going to be reliable, but IMO not what anyone should put into a general-purpose computer system.

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FS shows 3 models of Seagate 3 TB Ext Desktop from $130 to $150.

The $130 model is a flyer price, is sold out online, and finishes end of tonight for any left in the stores.
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said by Wolfie00:

As long as everyone understands that those are invariably low-RPM green drives. Perfect for USB externals provided it's a good brand that is going to be reliable, but IMO not what anyone should put into a general-purpose computer system.

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As a storage-only device, I see no point in the faster drives unless their price is very close to that of the the slower ones.

My 100Mbit LAN is my bottleneck anyway when sharing drives across my network, and the USB 2.0 interface seems to sometimes limit things even when using externals local to a PC.

The faster drives are of course better for OS & APPs, but who has even a TB of installed APPs ?

Faster RPM drives are more failure prone too, and regardless of the warranty and brand, it would still be a hassle if they went down.

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said by Devanchya:

There is a huge issue of flooding going on in Thailand where all the drives are made. So there is a serious shortage of drives. I was warned about this a month ago from a friend and was told to get any drive's I'd need for the next 6 months. It's the worse flooding seen in the region in close to 100 years.

Thanks for passing that tip now. :-( :-(

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Heading up there now.. USB3 which is really nice, my mobo only has 2 USB3 Ports, but I picked up a USB 3.0 Hub which will suffice.

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said by Davesnothere:

said by Wolfie00:

As long as everyone understands that those are invariably low-RPM green drives. Perfect for USB externals provided it's a good brand that is going to be reliable, but IMO not what anyone should put into a general-purpose computer system.

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As a storage-only device, I see no point in the faster drives unless their price is very close to that of the the slower ones.

My 100Mbit LAN is my bottleneck anyway when sharing drives across my network, and the USB 2.0 interface seems to sometimes limit things even when using externals local to a PC.

The faster drives are of course better for OS & APPs, but who has even a TB of installed APPs ?

Faster RPM drives are more failure prone too, and regardless of the warranty and brand, it would still be a hassle if they went down.

Anandtech's review of the Seagate GoFlex 3TB external drive showed that it had a Barracuda XT (their high-performance drive) in it, and not a green drive.

In terms of performance, well, I'll soon have ten of these drives in a single storage pool, with reads spread out among all ten drives. For home use, the performance of individual drives is really not important when you have that many drives.

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1.5 TB seagate externals on sale at staples only on Saturday. $45
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Are these the older 1.5 TB 'Expansion' USB 2.0 drives? I had one fail (click of death) last year... Perhaps Staples is clearing their older stock?

If they are I would not put anything of value or consequence on it...

»forums.seagate.com/t5/Ot ··· -p/30962

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It's USB2 of course they're dumping the stock.
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said by andyb:

1.5 TB seagate externals on sale at staples only on Saturday. $45

Thanks Andy, I knew about this yesterday by accident.

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said by vue666:

Are these the older 1.5 TB 'Expansion' USB 2.0 drives? I had one fail (click of death) last year... Perhaps Staples is clearing their older stock?

If they are I would not put anything of value or consequence on it...

»forums.seagate.com/t5/Ot ··· -p/30962

No idea if same drive as them.This is what it is thou if it shows in your area

»www.staples.ca/ENG/Catal ··· =846057#
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It's USB2 of course they're dumping the stock.

Read the link I posted above. These USB 2.0 1.5TB Expansion drives have a clicking problem that ultimately leads to drive failure. I experienced this feature and having numerous phone calls and e-mails to Seagates support... I wouldn't pay $5.00 for one of those...

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For $45, I'll take that risk, especially since it's more than likely updated stock with drives that had the wonderful click feature corrected.

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I was robbed, I bought a 3TB hard drive and only got 2.72!

I thought 3TB had to use GPT or is that for drives using the Sata Bus?