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Re: Epic Fustercluck

I'd rather see an honorary Snyder urinal.

Cut Tashard Choice (good move)
Signed Evan Royster to active roster
Resigned Tristan Davis to practice squad (his cutting didn't last real long guess they needed a "safe" PS opening for a week)

Nothing earthshaking, but still sifting for a Shanny back.

Hoping for something like a Chris Ivory with the saints last year... undrafted and turned in 137 rushes, 716 yds and 5 TDs last year after injuries to Reggie Bush and Pierre Thomas.

Hey, don't complain at my writing, gotta look for things to be encouraged about besides p*ssing on a dannyurinal LOL, and Shanny's ability to find RBs out of "nowhere" in Denver has me hoping he does it here.
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LOL, yeah Portis was known, but he also swapped him for Champ Bailey

I was thinking more of a 6th rounder out of Georgia named Terrell Davis in '95 and backup Aaron Craver 300yds and 40 receptions.

Then in 99 was a 4th rounder named Olandis Gary put up 1,000yds

2000 Mike Anderson racked up 1,000 yds

2001 added a 3rd back Leonard Russell (620) to go with Anderson (671) and Terrell (701)

Portis in 2002, 2003 then traded
2004 Reuben Droughns, a former 3rd rounder by the Lions, got 1,240yds then traded to Cleveland for defensive linemen Ebenezer Ekuban and Michael Myers.

2005 was Mike Anderson again racking up 1,000+ and toss in Tatum Bell with his 921, and some from Ron Dayne (250)

2006 Tatum Bell 1,000+ and Mike Bell's 667 who was an undrafted free agent.

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1,000 Yard Rushers During Mike Shanahan’s Tenure (Through 2006)

Mike Anderson – 2000, 2005 – 6th Round Draft Pick

Tatum Bell – 2006 – 2nd Round Draft Pick

Terrell Davis – 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998 – 6th Round Draft Pick

Rueben Droughns – 2004 – Free Agent

Olandis Gary – 1999 – 4th Round Pick

Clinton Portis – 2002, 2003 – 2nd Round Draft Pick

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reply to AB

reply to Rxdoxx
Your thorough knowledge of player movements and histories never fails to amaze, Doc.

I'll give Shanahan credit for Terrell Davis, no question.
But beyond that, I think his reputation in that regard is overrated. 1,000 yard rushers are a dime a dozen in the era of the 16 game season, so that measurement no longer pulls the weight it used to. Hand the ball to Ryan Torain enough, he'll get his 1,000 yards too.
And any team can have free agents or low-round draft picks who contribute a couple-three hundred yards to a total seasonal team offense, and most in fact do.

I don't point at Shanahan as the specific and only reason for the current team problems, though.
I do, however, wish the 'Skins would stop hiring 'the glory of the past' and turn instead to an up-and-comer type of guy for head coach, then give him a solid four or five years to see what he can do.

That's not what Jim Zorn was, btw. He was just a guy who was supposed to be offensive coordinator and who was named head coach only because no one else on the list at the time would take the job. Zorn wasn't at that time considered head coaching material by any team.
Steve Spurrier I put more in the 'past glory' category-- built his rep as a college coach who was always able to recruit the best high school players, not by anything he did coaching or drafting pro players.

I don't know. I don't know what it is, exactly.
I guess once a franchise gets entrenched in that cycle of never having a high quality team on the field and always hoping next year brings better things, yet it never does-- then I suppose the buck has to stop with management.
The one constant in the management of the Redskins over the past dozen years has been Daniel Snyder.

But whatever it is, like a lot of people-- I just want to see them break out of that friggin' cycle!

You know, it is Snyder. Deep in your heart, you know that is the problem. Cooke hired Gibbs out of nowhere and what he told him he had to do in that first season was "Beat Dallas". After that things went pretty well. Of course he also had Bobby Beathard as a GM.

»www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sp···ired.htm

It is not like those up and coming coaches are a dime a dozen but they are out there.

But Snyder wouldn't want to take a chance on one and then give them the personnel control and time to get things going.

He just can't do it.

reply to AB
Trivia: 76 skins 4 1000+ rushers (at some point then or prior) on the team Larry Brown, Calvin Hill, John Riggins, Mike Thomas

Portis gave us 4, last one in 2008 (04, 05, 07)
Toss in Ladell Betts in 06
Before Portis, Stephen Davis hit 1000+ in 99, 00, 01
Then I think you have to go back to Terry Allen in 95 + 96

But you are correct about the 16 game season and the increase of that milestone.

What I didn't really say, but was in the back of my mind, is the relatively short careers of RBs.
I don't feel like digging for stats, but as a group, RBs are the shortest careers of any position, they take such a pounding. Taking that a step further, it means that using the high draft choice on a RB is not an effective way to build a team (IMHO).
I'm fishing for a quick example, and please don't rip it apart, but maybe Reggie Bush to N.O. who is now a Dolphin and no longer helping the team that drafted him.
My belief is that if the high draft pick can be used for a long term position player, then the team builds better (except if a doofus is drafting like we've lived through - LOL gotta get pro-bowlers with those #1 picks). That is where I want to see the stud LB, the LT, the shutdown CB, the beast NT, the sack-master DE, (or in the Redskins case an Andy Dalton )..... not a RB...
been watching, but injuries to Hightower and Torrain hurt.

Maybe I haven't but I hope I've made my reasons for hoping and focusing on Shanny's RB success clearer.

As an aside, the Ravens have a similar reputation with LBs fueled with the 6th rounder Adalius Thomas and undrafted Bart Scott. The last game, victory against the Bengals, we started 2 ILB who both were undrafted Jameel McClain (Syracuse) and Dannell Ellerbe (Georgia) (and I say victory with one of the 2 replacing injured Ray Lewis).... so I'm really hoping to see Shanny doing this with RBs as he did in the past.
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Don't want to start a new football thread, but do want to mention the Ravens Harbaugh bowl lastnight.

That is some awesome D. Gore's running got halted, Smith got sacked a Raven franchise tying record of 9 times....
without Ray Lewis and his last week replacement (undrafted Danell Ellerbe).
And who got playing time?
Undrafted free agent Albert McClellan signed 2010 after Marshall College, who chipped in 4 tackles/assists.

Also on the roster are rookie Chavis Williams an undrafted LB out of Alabama and Rookie Josh Bynes undrafted LB out of Auburn

I know the NFL is hyping/promoting Offense Offense Offense, but if your team has a super D it sure is fun to sit back and watch

And that was a good part of my optomism for the skins this year.
Kerrigan, Orakpo, Colfield, I thought the D would be hoop-tee-tah
Not quite but definitely traces of memories of dancing bear and making "Hanburger" out of a team.
It doesn't hurt me quite as bad as it does those of you in the middle of Redskin nation, I got visions of sugar plums (plums=purple ;P ) trying to dance in my head

but I still hated seeing jerry jones celebrating yesterday and wish we had wiped the smile off the week before.
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Was a Cruise Fanatic, one cruise on Princess cured me. Bleah

It's turning out to be an interesting season, I was kind of rooting for Detroit to knock off Green Bay but it looks like Detroit's juice is leaving town quickly. I love the AFC and hate the AFC again. It's another AFC "who the hell is going all the way guess fest" again. Makes it interesting to watch though, hope the Ravens do well enough to make it to New England. I've always enjoyed watching Ravens vs Patriots. Shaping up to be a good post season in the AFC.
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reply to DC DSL
I can't believe the Skins actually won, in spite of how badly they tried to lose.