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NCAA president Mark Emmert announced during a news conference at the organization’s headquarters that Penn State will be banned from bowl games for four years, will lose 10 football scholarships per year for four years and must pay $60 million in fines, which will go toward a fund for victims of child abuse. Penn State will be placed on probation for five years.

In addition, all of Penn State's victories from 1998 through 2001 will be vacated. Coach Joe Paterno's record will reflect the vacated victories, meaning he no longer technically will be the NCAA's all-time winningest coach.

Penn State was not given the NCAA “death penalty,” a punishment that would have shut down the football program for a period of time and was championed by some.

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JoPa losses 111 wins which puts him in 5th place in FBS, 8th place in D1.

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I could give a damn about the wins. Beyond the obvious victims I feel for all the student athletes across the board whose programs are cross-subsidized by the football program. And the taxpayers. Somehow Sandusky's sick perversion is gonna end up costing us as well. Man what a disaster all around.

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This penalty seems about right to me. If nothing else it will promote awareness in the public mind.

The ruling did what I had hoped for 1) that a penalty should severely affect PSU at least for the same amount of time that Sandusky was allowed to roam around that place, and 2) consideration should be given to child abuse victims.

Too, don't forget that the Big Ten Conference will announce their penalties later today.
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B1G basically made PSU ineligible for conference championship for 4 years. Took away and their share of conference revenue during the same period (est. @ 13 million) for post season play and will use the funds to establish child protection programs.

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Amazing ,somebody actually grew some cajones and got it right for a change.
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A couple of thoughts:

One: Vacating wins presents something of a denial of fact.

Two: If the NCAA were serious about institutional control, they would have affected all PSU sports. A lack of institutional control is across the board, and this punishment unfairly punishes current student athletes regardless of transfer allowances.

These are my thoughts because the social aspects of issue are rather independent of a particular sport. The actual lack of control is at the AD level and it seems clear that the 'legendary' coach was granted too much leeway in terms of the entire scope of athletics at PSU. Since the lack of control was at the AD level, that covers every sport at PSU. As to the wins/losses, that is like taking home runs away from Barry Bonds.

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