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avguser

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Re: [NCAA-F] Unhappy Valley

Checkmate! I win. You cannot understand the facts of the case and how the over-sensationalized media reporting has led many in America to think that Joe Paterno raped the kids, that there was a 13-year cover up and that each of the victims was know to Paterno and crew.

Please learn how to read and think for yourself. It'll do you a world of good



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said by pflog:

I really take offense at that last comment.

Okay. Sure wasn't directed at you personally, though.

Penn State football players have been and are among the highest graduation rate, GPA, etc. Statements like that are ignorant - many of these football players use football as a means of getting an education not the other way around.

I said they have my sympathy. 'Collateral damage' isn't fair and it sucks. Yet it is what it is, and has to be dealt with.
If they can't get an education through a football scholarship, but they're truly interested in an education and a degree, then they'll have to find some other way.


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said by avguser:

Checkmate! I win.

This is a game for you? Tell me where to send your prize, and don't forget to grab a complimentary copy of the home version on your way out.


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PSU ex-President Spanier's lawyers attack Freeh report as huge coverup for Penn State trustees who hired Freeh.

»www.philly.com/philly/news/20120···obe.html
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said by pflog:

said by AB:

Screw Penn State, and their football program.

I've stayed out of this thread as a Penn State alum, but I really take offense at that last comment.

Get used to it. Penn State has entered the Tiger Woods zone, where everyone used to think they were a cut above but we found out they were rife with corruption. There's going to be a stain on that place for decades.
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said by footballdude:

said by pflog:

said by AB:

Screw Penn State, and their football program.

I've stayed out of this thread as a Penn State alum, but I really take offense at that last comment.

Get used to it. Penn State has entered the Tiger Woods zone, where everyone used to think they were a cut above but we found out they were rife with corruption. There's going to be a stain on that place for decades.

Sorry, but the actions of a few corrupt assholes do not define the University nor its alumni nor does it take away the great education I received. I'm still proud to be a Penn State graduate and other people can believe what they want but the actions of a sick pervert and some corrupt upper level figures cannot speak for the entire University.
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said by pflog:

Sorry, but the actions of a few corrupt assholes do not define the University nor its alumni nor does it take away the great education I received. I'm still proud to be a Penn State graduate and other people can believe what they want but the actions of a sick pervert and some corrupt upper level figures cannot speak for the entire University.

I have to agree here.
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said by pflog:

Sorry, but the actions of a few corrupt assholes do not define the University nor its alumni nor does it take away the great education I received. I'm still proud to be a Penn State graduate and other people can believe what they want but the actions of a sick pervert and some corrupt upper level figures cannot speak for the entire University.

Perception is reality in matters like this and the public sees the place as stanky now. I've no doubt you can get a decent education there and I've no doubt the football program will eventually recover, but there's always going to be a footnote in everyone's minds where Penn State is concerned. It will take a long time for that to fade from the public memory and it won't start fading until long after all the dust settles from the continuing lawsuits.
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said by footballdude:

. . It will take a long time for that to fade from the public memory and it won't start fading until long after all the dust settles from the continuing lawsuits.

It might fade, but it will never go entirely away. Some of the stink or taint will always remain, even 50 or 100 years from now.

You know who's the big winner in all this? The Citadel. They had their own serial child molester, which they slipped in coming clean about during the storm over Penn State.
All of our outrage was directed at Penn State, and we didn't have any left for The Citadel-- reportage on their scandal was minimal, and they're catching virtually no grief from a national standpoint. Most people now don't even remember that announcement/story.

Yepper. They just ducked their heads a little and calmly whistled their way right on out of that room, and nobody even noticed they'd left.
I'll bet the honchos of that school are still smiling.


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I'm not disagreeing that the public will see it that way. It will, and that sucks a lot because the public has no god damn idea. They know what the media spoon fed them.

I bet if you asked a random person on the street what "THON" is at Penn State they'd have no idea.

I frankly don't care what ignorant people think. I still wear my Penn State stuff proudly and any ignorant asshole that wants to think the entire university is "corrupt" or "bad" because of one pedophile and a handful of people covering it up can think whatever they want. I know the real Penn State.
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said by pflog:

I'm not disagreeing that the public will see it that way. It will, and that sucks a lot because the public has no god damn idea. They know what the media spoon fed them.

I bet if you asked a random person on the street what "THON" is at Penn State they'd have no idea.

I frankly don't care what ignorant people think. I still wear my Penn State stuff proudly and any ignorant asshole that wants to think the entire university is "corrupt" or "bad" because of one pedophile and a handful of people covering it up can think whatever they want. I know the real Penn State.

Let's not go overboard, PSU simply has some stink on it, which will fade in time.
And just where do I find all these spoon fed media errors? I think you are confusing the media with lots of ignorant sports fans who relish in bringing another program down.
You might be surprised to find how many people are respectful of your education and your educators.
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said by footballdude:

It will take a long time for that to fade from the public memory and it won't start fading until long after all the dust settles from the continuing lawsuits.

And yet the twin towers are already fading from some people's minds.
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said by Voxxjin:

said by footballdude:

It will take a long time for that to fade from the public memory and it won't start fading until long after all the dust settles from the continuing lawsuits.

And yet the twin towers are already fading from some people's minds.

I hope you didn't just liken Penn State University to Al-Quaeda.


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said by Voxxjin:

said by footballdude:

It will take a long time for that to fade from the public memory and it won't start fading until long after all the dust settles from the continuing lawsuits.

And yet the twin towers are already fading from some people's minds.

The twin tower footage got yanked from broadcast news pretty quickly. Reporters will be reminding us all of the Penn State scandal for years, every time a little more information trickles out from one of the many coming trials.
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said by Edge1:

said by Voxxjin:

said by footballdude:

It will take a long time for that to fade from the public memory and it won't start fading until long after all the dust settles from the continuing lawsuits.

And yet the twin towers are already fading from some people's minds.

I hope you didn't just liken Penn State University to Al-Quaeda.

nope just saying that 9/11 wasn't that long ago and many people seem to have forgotten about it. I grew up rooting for PSU and it is still the only school in college I will watch play ball (even if it takes a few years to see them play again).
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OK, my misunderstanding. PSU fan here, not gonna roll over and die because of this horrible situation. Wrongs, serious wrongs, were committed at many levels, Joe included. The offenders are gone now. That doesn't take away from the good the university, its staff, and students have done in the world. My siblings are graduates of PSU, I took classes there but ultimately graduated elsewhere. Its a lot more than a football program. Will be rooting for PSU as loyally as always, because its my state university and I believe in higher education. Excited about the level of commitment being shown by Bill O'Brien and the kids on the team, none of whom had anything to do with this nightmare.



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said by Edge1:

OK, my misunderstanding. PSU fan here, not gonna roll over and die because of this horrible situation. Wrongs, serious wrongs, were committed at many levels, Joe included. The offenders are gone now. That doesn't take away from the good the university, its staff, and students have done in the world. My siblings are graduates of PSU, I took classes there but ultimately graduated elsewhere. Its a lot more than a football program. Will be rooting for PSU as loyally as always, because its my state university and I believe in higher education. Excited about the level of commitment being shown by Bill O'Brien and the kids on the team, none of whom had anything to do with this nightmare.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
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avguser

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Emmert is such a moron.

He said recently: "Speaking to the Detroit Economic Club at Ford Field, Emmert said, regarding the criminal case against Jerry Sandusky, if Penn State had brought it forward when initial claims of abuse began and separated itself at that time, the NCAA never would have been involved. The ensuring years of cover-up, Emmert implied, caused the NCAA action."

»ps4rs.wordpress.com/2012/09/24/p···-emmert/

Ummm, it was investigated in 1998 and Penn State did notify authorities. I expect Syracuse to be sanctioned heavily since they sat on the Berni Fine infomration for six years at least. Oh wait, emmert is an SU alum. I guess a little child molesting at the alma mater isn't all that bad.