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Re: Astraweb super slow said by jimboe:Sandman,
Out of all these AW svr's:
•ssl-eu.astraweb.com A 91.208.207.66 5s (Singapore Server)
the only one you list as being in Singapore, seems to be out of Amsterdam.
Could you point out which one(s) (and if there are multiple as well) is/are in Singapore?
I was unaware that any of their svr's are homed in Singapore. This might be of great value in the completion area.
thx
Huh?
»whatismyipaddress.com/ip/91.208.207.66
Says Singapore. Which lookup are you using?
quote:
Deferred to specific whois server: whois.ripe.net...
% This is the RIPE Database query service.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
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% The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions.
% See »www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms···ions.pdf
% Note: this output has been filtered.
% To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.
% Information related to '91.208.207.0 - 91.208.207.255'
inetnum: 91.208.207.0 - 91.208.207.255
netname: Searchtech
descr: Searchtech Limited
country: SG
org: ORG-SL77-RIPE
admin-c: AH2901-RIPE
tech-c: AH2901-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PI
mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-END-MNT
mnt-by: OPENPEERING-MNT
mnt-lower: RIPE-NCC-END-MNT
mnt-routes: OPENPEERING-MNT
mnt-domains: OPENPEERING-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered
organisation: ORG-SL77-RIPE
org-name: Searchtech Limited
org-type: OTHER
address: #16-20 UOB Plaza 2
address: 80 Raffles Place
address: Singapore 048624
e-mail: domain@astraweb.com
mnt-ref: OPENPEERING-MNT
mnt-by: OPENPEERING-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered
person: Alex Heng
address: #16-20 UOB Plaza 2
address: 80 Raffles Place
address: Singapore 048624
phone: +14156801619
org: ORG-SL77-RIPE
e-mail: domain@astraweb.com
nic-hdl: AH2901-RIPE
mnt-by: OPENPEERING-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered
% Information related to '91.208.207.0/24AS35176'
route: 91.208.207.0/24
descr: NL-SEARCHTECH
origin: AS35176
mnt-by: OPENPEERING-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered
Edit: From reading, it looks like they (Astraweb) are based out of Singapore. Searchtech Limited owns them and they are based out of the Netherlands from the looks of it. |
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| Unless something has changed recently, Astraweb has its presence in Singapore, which would be why they registered their IP addresses with their Singapore physical address.
EDIT- It also isnt difficult to get a postal mailbox type of service (think UPS store) to have a "physical address", then just set it to forward on to your actual address. You could really appear to be "anywhere".
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said by sandman_1:http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/91.208.207.66
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Says Singapore. Which lookup are you using?
Edit: From reading, it looks like they (Astraweb) are based out of Singapore. Searchtech Limited owns them and they are based out of the Netherlands from the looks of it.
Yes.
And there's this:
M:/jimboe>tracert 91.208.207.66
Tracing route to 91.208.207.66 over a maximum of 30 hops
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7 5 ms 5 ms 6 ms vlan51.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.138.222]
8 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms ae-4-4.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.141.17]
9 74 ms 74 ms 74 ms ae-44-44.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.137.77]
10 82 ms 82 ms 82 ms ae-46-46.ebr2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.143.73
]
11 82 ms 82 ms 81 ms ae-57-222.csw2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.153.2
06]
12 81 ms 81 ms 81 ms ae-2-52.edge5.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.139.17
1]
13 82 ms 82 ms 82 ms SEARCHTECH.edge5.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [212.72.4
1.26]
14 83 ms 83 ms 84 ms 91.208.207.66
Trace complete.
Physcally, that server appears to be homed in Amsterdam.
Which is why I asked which one(s) of their svr's are in Singapore. |
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| I don't know then. Mine goes through Italy.
tracert 91.208.207.66
Tracing route to 91.208.207.66 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 24 ms 29 ms 29 ms cpe-024-074-160-001.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.1
60.1]
3 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms cpe-024-074-254-137.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.2
54.137]
4 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms ae18.chrlncpop-rtr1.southeast.rr.com [24.93.64.6
]
5 26 ms 28 ms 28 ms 107.14.19.18
6 29 ms 27 ms 28 ms ae-0-0.pr0.atl20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.171]
7 29 ms 72 ms 28 ms 107.14.18.206
8 34 ms 28 ms 28 ms tge13-2.fr3.iad.llnw.net [69.28.189.38]
9 34 ms 41 ms 35 ms tge16-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.158]
10 118 ms 116 ms 108 ms tge12-1.fr4.ams.llnw.net [69.28.172.6]
11 111 ms 111 ms 146 ms 87.248.199.74
12 112 ms 111 ms 114 ms 91.208.207.66
Trace complete.
Here is Atraweb's network info:
»www.robtex.com/dns/eu.news.astra···#records
»bgp.he.net/AS35176#_prefixes
»www.robtex.com/cnet/91.208.207.html
Says Singapore there too so I don't know what to believe now. |
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kudos:2 | What you believe depends on if you want a physical location as shown from your tracert or the probable contact/registration location info from the various whois, dns, peering data tools being used. Most will default to the contact info that has been registered not the actual physical location.
Your tracert goes from RR-US to LLNW-US to LLNW-London to LLNW-Amsterdam to SearchTech/Astraweb. I don't see Singapore or Italy in there.
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said by sandman_1:...
Says Singapore there too so I don't know what to believe now.
Yea, that's not surprisinig.
Different routes to the same svr. in Amsterdam depending upon origination.
I personally feel physical locale is more important. |
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Yea must of looked up the wrong ip, copy and pasted wrong, for the one before last on the tracert. Looking up IP says UK.
Just curious, why would they have some registered as Singapore and others as Netherlands? |
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| Could be business contraints? VC parnters involved in AW's getting started?
Who knows.. |
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| Is it just the case that the company that owns AW, Searchtech, is incorporated in Singapore, but the actual servers for AW are in NL and SJ? |
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| reply to mr_slick
Just speculating, but the Singapore IP's are maybe being routed (automatically) to their Netherlands server because it is closer to the end user. That's the only reason I can come up with as to why they have both Netherland and Singapore IP's registered for the same URL address. Who knows... |
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kudos:2 | said by sandman_1:Just speculating, but the Singapore IP's are maybe being routed (automatically) to their Netherlands server because it is closer to the end user. That's the only reason I can come up with as to why they have both Netherland and Singapore IP's registered for the same URL address. Who knows...
You are confusing the registration/contact/owner info for actual locations. Your post above
»Re: Astraweb super slow
shows that IP was a direct issue from RIPE(Réseaux IP Européens Network Coordination Centre) which handles Europe to Searchtech/Astraweb for their servers in Amsterdam. If they were Singapore IPs, they would have been issued from APNIC(Asia-Pacific Network Information Centre).
If you look at the whois for the 207.246.207.x /24 block (listed for news.astraweb.com) you should see that they were issued by ARIN (American Registry for Internet Numbers) to Revelation Networks as part of a larger block. Revelation Networks then issued the smaller block to Searchtech/Astraweb for their servers in SJC.
One interesting thing about this thread is that sometime in the recent past my routing changed, Comcast now routes directly to Astraweb in SJC. I used to have a few hops on Level Three to San Jose. I'm tending to blame Comcast for the ragged speed at this point though.
The bad thing is that Astraweb articles from about March thru July still suck-with many files not found, incomplete posts, etc.
One test had the first cd worth of articles/files all complete-no problems, the second cd that was originally uploaded in sequence and was from the same NZB, had every file incomplete. I used all three AW server blocks twice each with the same exact results (using news.aw and us.news.aw was redundant, they are the same group of servers). They were originally posted to eu.news.astraweb. The same NZB on a different provider had no problems-all articles/files were complete and intact.
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| Yep you are correct and I found this.
Facility Name ASN City Country
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NIKHEF Amsterdam 35176 Amsterdam NL
TelecityGroup Amsterdam 3 (Sloterdijk) 35176 Amsterdam NL
SARA Amsterdam 35176 Amsterdam NL
Equinix San Jose (SV3) 35176 San Jose US
Here »networktools.nl/asinfo/AS35176 |
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| reply to mr_slick
Just wanted to say, I had some issues with Astra last night. Newsbin Pro was reporting all kinds of errors: "server dropped connection: too many connections" and "server did not respond in specified time". My speed dropped in half, from 30Mbps to 15Mbps. Restarted Newsbin Pro and speed went back to normal but still had those errors, although less of them. |
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2 edits | said by sandman_1:Just wanted to say, I had some issues with Astra last night. Newsbin Pro was reporting all kinds of errors: "server dropped connection: too many connections" and "server did not respond in specified time". My speed dropped in half, from 30Mbps to 15Mbps. Restarted Newsbin Pro and speed went back to normal but still had those errors, although less of them.
said by sandman_1:I just don't get it, I download Gigs of data off of Astraweb, even on Sundays during peak times and I see no slow down whatsoever during the several years I have been with them--except maybe for a 1-2Mbps drop rarely-- but you do? I really think most of your problems are either how you got your servers setup or the software you are using. Also it is easy enough to complain and blame Astraweb when you haven't posted anything like a traceroute, what software you are using and if it is reporting any errors, Antivirus software, your ISP, ect.. I sincerely hope you understand now. The people who have been complaining about their issues with Astraweb shouldn't be dismissed/blamed just because the the problems are not universally experienced by ALL Astraweb users.
Astraweb is experiencing some issues currently that intermittently/randomly affect a certain percentage of their user base.
The fact that Astraweb hasn't really publicly acknowledged these issues is really disappointing. |
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| A link to a post that I pointed out said, Astra does maintenance on Sunday for their US servers. I had problems on Sunday evening. The connections in Newsbin showed problems with the US servers not the EU. You can put two and two together. Yes I agree, they need to be more transparent. |
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| said by sandman_1:A link to a post that I pointed out said, Astra does maintenance on Sunday for their US servers.
Did the person that said that, get confirmation from Astraweb that they do maintenance then? That particular person has made a lot of claims over the years, many of which that were not entirely true or accurate.
Overall traffic increases quite a bit on the weekends, at least from my own observations over the years...I can't imagine it would be any different for Astraweb. Id be surprised if they tore into their infrastructure on a busy evening / night but I suppose it is possible.
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| The guy lives down the street, literally, from their US servers if we are talking about the same guy and everything I have seen him post hasn't been untrue. |
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kudos:2 | said by sandman_1:The guy lives down the street, literally, from their US servers if we are talking about the same guy and everything I have seen him post hasn't been untrue.
Not to sound pendantic, but how does his alleged physical proximity to the US servers relate the accuracy of his statements? Does he see the Astraweb techs pull up to datacenter every Sunday night? 
I kid, I kid.
The guy stated that Astraweb does maintenance but there was no mention of Astraweb ever acknowledging that they do. To quote him, "I've just about come to the conclusion they are doing some sort of maintenance activity during this period of time." He believes this to be true, but it doesn't necessarily make it so. Some people read that and assume that it's a fact. Not that it's his opinion.
This guy seems knowledgeable at times but some of his statements are opinions and conclusions which come across as being facts. |
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