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cdru
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Re: Union Scum

said by Boricua:

Until the "average Joe" has to work more than a 40-hour work week, loses health benefits, child labor laws are repealed, the corporations evade paying more taxes, holidays are taken away, workers' comp would be eviscerated, etc.

What? I'm surprised that women's suffrage and rights for minorities aren't in your list of benefits given to the people by unions. You're arguments might have held some water at the turn of the century, early in the 20th century. There is little to support those arguments now.


pnh102
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said by cdru:

What? I'm surprised that women's suffrage and rights for minorities aren't in your list of benefits given to the people by unions. You're arguments might have held some water at the turn of the century, early in the 20th century. There is little to support those arguments now.

Meh... I got one better. Had Adam and Eve been unionized, there would have been no Fall of Man.
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Boricua
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reply to cdru
said by cdru:

said by Boricua:

Until the "average Joe" has to work more than a 40-hour work week, loses health benefits, child labor laws are repealed, the corporations evade paying more taxes, holidays are taken away, workers' comp would be eviscerated, etc.

What? I'm surprised that women's suffrage and rights for minorities...

said by cdru:

You're arguments might have held some water at the turn of the century, early in the 20th century. There is little to support those arguments now.

I beg to differ. One prime example, recently Wally World decided to have employees work 30 hours or less to avoid giving them health benefits because the minimum is 32 hours.

Wal-Mart Cuts SomeHealth Care Benefits
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cdru
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said by Boricua:

I beg to differ. One prime example, recently Wally World decided to have employees work 30 hours or less to avoid giving them health benefits because the minimum is 32 hours.

Wal-Mart Cuts SomeHealth Care Benefits

What, in one breath you tell us that employers are forcing employees to work more then 40 hours, then in another you complain that employees are being forced to work less then 30. You can't have it both ways.

Getting employees to work less than X number of hours so that they are considered part time, or ineligible for particular benefits isn't anything new. It's gone on for years and has no bearing on whether the company is union or not. They can just as easily have union labor and simply require employees not to work over the X hours. Or just drop coverage all together. Or make it obscenely expensive that it effectively isn't offered.

TheRogueX

join:2003-03-26
Springfield, MO
The point is that the unions have contracts which prevent companies from forcing an employee to work too few hours (so as to avoid benefits) or too many overtime hours (so as to completely overwork them).

This is actually a GOOD thing.