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Re: Unknown computers on local network - cable isp problem? said by towerdave:If you ping those names in a Command window, do they resolve to an IP address? Do the IPs fall in the same subnet as yours? (are the first 3 numbers the same)
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I am unable to ping or connect to them. |
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| said by ADKTech:said by towerdave:If you ping those names in a Command window, do they resolve to an IP address? Do the IPs fall in the same subnet as yours? (are the first 3 numbers the same)
TD
I am unable to ping or connect to them. But does it say Host Not Found, or Request Timed Out? If RTO, it should show an IP address that you can compare to your public IP that your ISP provides to the cable modem.
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| said by towerdave:But does it say Host Not Found, or Request Timed Out? If RTO, it should show an IP address that you can compare to your public IP that your ISP provides to the cable modem.
TD
If I try to ping the computer names it gives a "host could not be found" message for all of the 'rogue' entries...
EXCEPT for the 'router' entry, which resolves to my gateway (the Belkin router) |
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sk1939Premium
join:2010-10-23
Washington, DC
kudos:9 | My best guess is that they're propagating from the internet somehow, but that shouldn't be the case if you have the firewall on your router enabled. What are the settings on your Belkin set to at the moment? |
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 EGeezerGo CatsPremium
join:2002-08-04
Midwest
kudos:8 | reply to ADKTech
OK, this is getting interesting - Wish I had a WIN7 machine to play with...
Have you used the PC(s) on any other network(s) by any chance? If so, WIN7 could have discovered them and kept them in the network list.
It seems you should be able to turn off discovery somewhere in the settings and should be able to delete those spurious connections on the page where you see them. (Right click, "delete", perhaps?)
Lastly, I'd call the ISP to regale them with the details of the things that are popping up, and see what they say.
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said by ADKTech:If I try to ping the computer names it gives a "host could not be found" message for all of the 'rogue' entries...
EXCEPT for the 'router' entry, which resolves to my gateway (the Belkin router)
If "router" resolves to the same IP as your belkin router, then you are now seeing 3 entries for it as shown in your image above? "Router" under the Computer section; Belkin N750DB Wireless Router: 1 under Media Devices; AND also the same under Network Infrastructure? That doesn't seem right.
Do you have anything else plugged into the router, like a USB media drive?
Do you have UPNP enabled in the router?
Do you have guest access enabled in the router?
If so, have you tried disconnecting and/or disabling these functions, and ALSO powering everything down (modem, router, remaining laptop from the outside in? (Meaning all OFF, then powering up each one at a time completely before proceeding to the next.. modem, then router, then laptop)
-Jim |
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EGeezerGo CatsPremium
join:2002-08-04
Midwest
kudos:8 | reply to ADKTech
The screenshot in your OP appears to be the "add wireless device" screen. In that case, it may show past connections that it has discovered on other networks.
Go to the "Control Panel/All Control Panel items/Network and Sharing Center" screen and do a screen print. That screen should show your current and active connection(s).
See »www.addictivetips.com/windows-ti···ndows-7/ for the screen I mentioned as well as instructions on how to turn off network discovery in WIN7.
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| said by EGeezer:The screenshot in your OP appears to be the "add wireless device" screen. In that case, it may show past connections that it has discovered on other networks.
Good catch, EGeezer  |
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 Name GamePremium
join:2002-07-07
North Myrtle Beach, SC
kudos:7
1 edit | Naw,,that is not an add wireless device screen...that, including "add a printer" are buttons to push to do so. If OP would have shown the whole pic..it would have looked something like this..... |
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davePremium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:8 | reply to JALevinworth
said by JALevinworth :If "router" resolves to the same IP as your belkin router, then you are now seeing 3 entries for it as shown in your image above? "Router" under the Computer section; Belkin N750DB Wireless Router: 1 under Media Devices; AND also the same under Network Infrastructure? That doesn't seem right. It's normal. If a thing fulfils 3 entirely different functions, it shows up 3 times.
My Windows home server shows up as a 'computer' (because it implements Windows file and printer sharing) and as an 'other' (some web/upnp thing by which clients can discover the server).
Actually, it's even better - in my house, the same physical computer shows up as 3 separate media devices (because it is capable of streaming 3 different libraries - different user names) |
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| said by dave:said by JALevinworth :If "router" resolves to the same IP as your belkin router, then you are now seeing 3 entries for it as shown in your image above? "Router" under the Computer section; Belkin N750DB Wireless Router: 1 under Media Devices; AND also the same under Network Infrastructure? That doesn't seem right. It's normal. If a thing fulfils 3 entirely different functions, it shows up 3 times. My Windows home server shows up as a 'computer' (because it implements Windows file and printer sharing) and as an 'other' (some web/upnp thing by which clients can discover the server). Actually, it's even better - in my house, the same physical computer shows up as 3 separate media devices (because it is capable of streaming 3 different libraries - different user names) Thanks dave ... I can see and agree with what you say, I just don't get how this router would (in addition to the other 2) show up under the "computer" section with the computername of "router" and also has the same IP as the router, although not responding to ping with cname "router"
Am I still incorrect about that seeming off?
-Jim |
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davePremium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:8 | The router is pingable by name. At least, that's the way I interpreted this:
EXCEPT for the 'router' entry, which resolves to my gateway (the Belkin router) |
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| said by dave:The router is pingable by name. At least, that's the way I interpreted this:
EXCEPT for the 'router' entry, which resolves to my gateway (the Belkin router) read just above that quote - OP said all rouges were unpingable. »Re: Unknown computers on local network - cable isp problem?
When asked if "host not found" or "time out", OP stated the quote above. I understood that to mean it resolved "router", but RTO unpingable .. and so why I asked.
just seemed that they all should be named the Belkin name if it is all 3 the same device - not one with the cname 'router' all with the same IP. Different cname, but same IP = conflict unless it isn't the same device after all.
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said by EGeezer:OK, this is getting interesting - Wish I had a WIN7 machine to play with...
Have you used the PC(s) on any other network(s) by any chance? If so, WIN7 could have discovered them and kept them in the network list.
Yes, this laptop has been on other networks. This was why I originally thought that maybe what I was seeing here was a case of 'ghosting' - machines stuck in cache that were once browseable when the laptop was on another network.
Problem with that theory is that these machines are coming and going. They drop in and out of the network window, and just today a completely new one (one I have not seen before) appeared. |
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said by dave:The router is pingable by name. At least, that's the way I interpreted this:
EXCEPT for the 'router' entry, which resolves to my gateway (the Belkin router) Yes, this is correct. The router is pingable by the name "router". It resolves to the 192.168.x.1 address that I assign it |
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EGeezerGo CatsPremium
join:2002-08-04
Midwest
kudos:8 | reply to ADKTech
Have you turned off network discovery, verified firewall settings on the PC and router and gotten a response from your ISP?
You could turn off wireless for a test period to see if the systems continue to pop up. If they do, that would eliminate the wireless discovery as a source.
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