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N4ST
Jim
Premium
join:2005-11-25
Jersey, VA

Current Status: Saturday, November 19, 2011 by N4ST

Anik F2 ~ Beam 37 ~ Pro Pak ~ Proxy

:::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 1638 Kbps or 1.6 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 3 MB or 3072 kB or 3145728 bytes
Download Speed:: 205 kB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/pYZlOkS
Test Time:: 2011-11-19 07:26:28 Local Time
1MB Download in 5 Seconds - 1GB Download in ~1 Hours - 29X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 3072 kB took 15 seconds to complete
Running at % of hosts average (wildblue_communications)
User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0 [!]

:::.. Upload Test Results ..:::
Upload Connection:: 213 Kbps or 0.2 Mbps
Upload Test Size:: 2.9 MB or 2992 kB or 3063420 bytes
Upload Speed:: 27 kB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/r9LvCM3
Test Time:: 2011-11-19 07:30:10 Local Time
1MB Upload in 37.93 Seconds - 1GB Upload in ~11 Hours - 4X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 2992 kB took 112.566 seconds to complete
Running at 13% of hosts average (att_services)
User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0 [!]
--
Anik F2 | WildBlue Pro Pak | Beam 37 | Laredo NOC | Since Nov 2005 | Linksys WRT54GX-v2| Windows XP | Homebrew PC

marsh_0x

join:2006-04-25
Tomahawk, WI

Hi Jim de N9--- not wishing to use my call sign as the Google bots reach too deep into my life.
I have both WB & Hughes with the $84 (sales tax) packages side by side speed tests a comedy that Hughes blows away WB always.

Hmm must be prime time at time of posting.
Tho different times makes it to 1.6 Mbps

:::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 695 Kbps or 0.7 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 3.6 MB or 3650 kB or 3737600 bytes
Download Speed:: 87 kB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/iZPwyuk
Test Time:: 2011-11-19 13:32:48 Local Time
1MB Download in 11.77 Seconds - 1GB Download in ~3 Hours - 12X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 3650 kB took 41.989 seconds to complete
Running at % of hosts average (wildblue_communicatiion
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Hughes and I'm NOT bragging, just frustrated until contract ends etc
:::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 2857 Kbps or 2.8 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 3.6 MB or 3650 kB or 3737600 bytes
Download Speed:: 357 kB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/avpZBY4
Test Time:: 2011-11-19 13:47:34 Local Time
1MB Download in 2.87 Seconds - 1GB Download in ~49 Minutes - 51X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 3650 kB took 10.221 seconds to complete
Running at 160% of hosts average (direcway.com)
User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/8.0 [!]



N4ST
Jim
Premium
join:2005-11-25
Jersey, VA

marsh,
Different strokes for different folks. I can download a 2GB Garmin map update in 2.5 hours. Can't do that on Hughes. I'm also coming up on 6 years of WildBlue connection without a service call. Not typical I suspect, but that is my experience.

Waiting to see what ViaSat-1 has to offer. More bandwidth than all other internet satellites combined, supposedly.
--
Anik F2 | WildBlue Pro Pak | Beam 37 | Laredo NOC | Since Nov 2005 | Linksys WRT54GX-v2| Windows XP | Homebrew PC


zeddlar

join:2007-04-09
Jay, OK
Reviews:
·Millenicom
·HughesNet Satell..

Actually if I started the download about 45 minutes before my reset time I could download that in a bit over an hour and have MB left to run me the rest of the day. Marsh couldn't quite though because he has a lower cap than me on his plan. He could during the free time though.
--
HughesNet elite plan/.74 dish w/1watt trans. / 9000 modem / 3 computers on a linksy's wired network



dbirdman
Premium,MVM
join:2003-07-07
Eureka, CA
kudos:5

Yes, a savvy Hughes user could download a 2.5GB update every day of the month and never impact the amount of cap available for doing everything else.



n1581j

@wildblue.net

Had Wildblue for 1yr, 11 months 25 days, contract about to expire.

What can I say, it's there most of the time unless weather intercedes, speed is slow but then again I only took the 512kbs package, cause told Windstream was bringing DSL to site, that was a lie. Downloaded linux ubuntu for one of my systems, download time 18 hours for just over 3GB. current speed using speedtest.net this am

»www.speedtest.net/result/1602930090.png

On switching to Verizon phone, now see i get 2 bars so probably going Millenicom, just don't like having to buy another USB modem.

Don't get me wrong, I not knocking Wildblue, if it's all there is, it's better than dialup most of the time unless you use all your allowance, then you're back to dialup speeds



DrStrangeLov

@12.189.32.x

reply to dbirdman

said by dbirdman:

Yes, a savvy Hughes user could

Two Fine Points:

1. Testmy - For accuracy the test will continue to forward you to larger file sizes until you sustain a download for 7 seconds, then your results will be shown.

2. Savvy - One who is a Night Owl, not a daytime user.

Value Plan: Laredo

:::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 521 Kbps or 0.5 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 1 MB or 1024 kB or 1048576 bytes
Download Speed:: 65 kB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/BupYSmT
Test Time:: 2011-11-20 14:04:47 Local Time
1MB Download in 15.75 Seconds - 1GB Download in ~4 Hours - 9X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 1024 kB took 15.724 seconds to complete

zeddlar

join:2007-04-09
Jay, OK
Reviews:
·Millenicom
·HughesNet Satell..

I never use the auto test, it isn't as accurate as the large file single tests. Also I know get 1.25GB a day so I can download 2 gb during the day easily, that is if my reset time was in the daytime, which right now it isnt.
--
HughesNet elite plan/.74 dish w/1watt trans. / 9000 modem / 3 computers on a linksy's wired network



dbirdman
Premium,MVM
join:2003-07-07
Eureka, CA
kudos:5

reply to DrStrangeLov

said by DrStrangeLov :

1. Testmy - For accuracy the test will continue to forward you to larger file sizes until you sustain a download for 7 seconds, then your results will be shown.

You did notice that Marsh's tests used high sizes, higher than N4ST's, right?

2. Savvy - One who is a Night Owl, not a daytime user.

Nope. While a Night Owl has the same options, a savvy user is one who learns to use automated tools for most large downloads/updates while they sleep. Anticipating the inevitable comeback, note the "most" in that statement.

A Hughes user never has to worry about small downloads or updates, no matter how many in a month, because they have no effect on the next day's available cap.

--
Motosat self-pointing dishes: 1.2-meter XF-3 on 127W, .74 meter G74 on 127W, SL-5 HD DirecTV|idirect 3100|Hughes HN7000S|Verizon UMW190 Air Card|1990 Blue Bird Wanderlodge Bus "Blue Thunder"|Author of hnFAP-Alert, PC-OPI and DSSatTool


n1581j

@wildblue.net

reply to N4ST
4.32pm Eastern

::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 171 Kbps or 0.2 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 1 MB or 1024 kB or 1048576 bytes
Download Speed:: 21 kB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/1KYcw9z
Test Time:: 2011-11-20 16:30:13 Local Time
1MB Download in 48.76 Seconds - 1GB Download in ~14 Hours - 3X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 1024 kB took 47.796 seconds to complete
Running at % of hosts average (wildblue_communications)
User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/535.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/15.0.874.121 Safari/535.2 [!]

Is there a rabbit off


marsh_0x

join:2006-04-25
Tomahawk, WI

reply to N4ST
Hi N4ST, you said it well, sorry I didn't mean to bring up a Hughes-WB comparison.
Both have their strong points.

The only scary part with WB is a FAP penalty period for more than a few day's that I has yet to happen to me, no experience how bad it would hurt.
As you said different strokes for different folks.
A motto ~I deal with the cards dealt to me~

WB allows me 17GB a month so after a clean install of a friends machine and have a 650MB Windows update besides the other updates is a serious limitation with Hughes.
A WiFi switch of routers makes my life easy.

But a self employed night owl always, retired 10 years ago, I set no alarm clock so after 1am cst I can easily download 3GB before the 2x + speed increase 7-8 weeks ago, is talking serious business.
haha no need to watch a movie download having Dish Network should I chose.

Yep the future is looking good with the new birds coming online.
The internet never ceases to amaze me.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge is precious...

Marsh
N9NBS, forgot my call sign 50 years ago, imagine that



DrStrangeLov

@12.189.32.x

said by marsh_0x:

I didn't mean to bring up a Hughes-WB comparison.

Hughes is "under stress," they are about to loose their bacon to ViaSat-1...it would be foolish to sign-up with Hughes at this time.

Hughes has always charged more historically, and still do...most folks are not heavy internet users...they just want this/that, and then they are gone.

If a person is a power user, then by all means, move over to Hughes...

zeddlar

join:2007-04-09
Jay, OK
Reviews:
·Millenicom
·HughesNet Satell..

Really, I have seen 1 person in 9 years say they were going to drop HN for wildblue, lol. I seriously doube there will be any bacon losing. Almost everyone I have run across is aware of Viasat-1 since it and Jupiter always come up in the same conversation and not one person has said I am leaving HN to get on WB's Viasat-1, they always say "I can't wait till HN get jupiter up and goin", lol. WB might be a tad cheaper but for the extremly lower pings and way more consistant speed Annddd the much much higher FAP allowance, I will pay that tad bit more, lmao but like they say,
"To each his own".

Really not wanting to argue this but I do like to see the truth of it thrown out there and not a bunch of made up drama like I see at times so it has made me pretty defensive. If you like what you have then I wish you luck with it and think thats just great. I do envy your American tech support.
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HughesNet elite plan/.74 dish w/1watt trans. / 9000 modem / 3 computers on a linksy's wired network



DrStrangeLov

@12.189.32.x

said by zeddlar:

I seriously doube there will be any bacon losing.

Hughes most likely does not share your opinion...changes in FAP and bandwidth speeds are related to keeping the customers happy when the competition will be offering something better.

Jumping ship will always happen, for one reason or another. Dishnetwork and DirecTV have experienced this for years.

For my needs, WB works fine...for my wants, FIOS would be nice. But, when you compare rates/bandwidth to those living in town, all satellite providers suck.

Spice300
Premium
join:2006-01-10

reply to N4ST
N4ST, I have had WB for 1 month longer than you and also have had no service calls.

dbirdman, I suspect HughesNet has down time during the night for maintenance, like Wildblue, which limits the success of download managers. During the 30th and 31st of the month, one can download anything during any time of the day or night on Wildblue without impacting the cap. A WB user can download bigger files than a HN user without it counting on the FAP meter. The nanny-like daily caps and speed reductions on HughesNet are awful. The stepped speeds during congestion on Wildblue are not as bad.

dbirdman, The savvy user who is using a download/upload manager is keeping his computer and modem on all night consuming power. That is not suitable for my off-grid photovoltaic system. When I am not using them, my computer and modem are powered off. A WB user can set the update manager to update at the end of the month to achieve the same results.

I agree with DrStrangeLov, HughesNet's bacon is about to be burnt by Viasat-1 prompting the recent speed increase and marketing ploys.

Please, please, all power users on Wildblue beam 31 leave for HughesNet so that the 512 k bits/s download speed that I constantly had before November 2009 will return. Viasat-1 will not cover this area. Scat, skedaddle, vroom....
--
Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway


zeddlar

join:2007-04-09
Jay, OK
Reviews:
·Millenicom
·HughesNet Satell..

I can understand your point of veiw on most of that but I do have a question, you said "A WB user can download bigger files than a HN user without it counting on the FAP meter". How do you figure this, I can easily now get over 100 GB per month completely FAP free if I wanted, how exactly can you do that on WB? Even if you have 2 whole free days you would be hard pressed to get that at my speeds, let alone at the slower speed you guys get. The only speed reductions on HN are on the old KU systems and those are slowly phasing out and as they do the speeds will also get better on those systems. The speeds are double the plan speed for 9000 users all day every day.
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HughesNet elite plan/.74 dish w/1watt trans. / 9000 modem / 3 computers on a linksy's wired network



dbirdman
Premium,MVM
join:2003-07-07
Eureka, CA
kudos:5

reply to Spice300

said by Spice300:

dbirdman, I suspect HughesNet has down time during the night for maintenance, like Wildblue, which limits the success of download managers.

Wow. I found that statement odd. You mean that WB routinely has maintenance downtime?

That is highly unacceptable for any internet connection, and most assuredly is not the case with either of my satellite connections. Unplanned downtime, usually weather-related, has been known to occur (speaking of Network downtime, not user down time), but it is relatively rare.

The 5 hours of FAP-Free time with Hughes is typically wide-open, speedwise, although it is better during the 4 later hours than the first hour. Downloading 2-5GB during this period is rather routine, whether it is done by a night-owl, or a download manager.

I also consider the lack of service calls to be normal; service calls are abnormal. I've had a lot of internet connections in my time (I have 6 that I pay for at the moment) and other than first connections I've never had a service call. Why people would consider a lack of service calls in 6 years to be exemplary is beyond me. Yes, I know there are folks who have routine service calls on their refrigerators and washing machines - I consider those to be odd as well.
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Motosat self-pointing dishes: 1.2-meter XF-3 on 127W, .74 meter G74 on 127W, SL-5 HD DirecTV|idirect 3100|Hughes HN7000S|Verizon UMW190 Air Card|1990 Blue Bird Wanderlodge Bus "Blue Thunder"|Author of hnFAP-Alert, PC-OPI and DSSatTool

marsh_0x

join:2006-04-25
Tomahawk, WI

reply to DrStrangeLov

said by DrStrangeLov :

said by zeddlar:

I seriously doube there will be any bacon losing.

changes in FAP and bandwidth speeds are related to keeping the customers happy when the competition will be offering something better.

Hi DrStrangeLov and others thanks for your valuable real life experiences.
Exactly my thoughts, competition brings for better service, 1st up is Viasat-1 and then Jupiter later.

Not to make this a comparison, 8 weeks now my Hughes speed has doubled + for 8 weeks now, new FAP with Hughes today to 1050MB
In a few hours we will see if Don's meter has 4 digits.
Simple math 1050 x 30 days = 31.5GB besides the 5 free hours.

Times are a changing (Bob Dylan song).
Happy turkey day coming...

Spice300
Premium
join:2006-01-10

reply to zeddlar

said by zeddlar:

... you said "A WB user can download bigger files than a HN user without it counting on the FAP meter". How do you figure this...?

For HughesNet the maximum file size is limited to the amount of data that can be downloaded in 5 consecutive hours. For Wildblue the maximum file size is limited to the amount of data that can be downloaded in 24 or 48 hours. That's a 31.6 GB file using the Pro pack downloading at 1.5 Mbps for 48 hours. A customer of HughesNet will not be able to download a 5 GB high definition movie in a 5 hour slot.

HN's daily download limits also mess up streaming large videos. Provide a WB user avoids congested times of the day, one can still stream video because there are no daily limits.
--
Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway

zeddlar

join:2007-04-09
Jay, OK
Reviews:
·Millenicom
·HughesNet Satell..

reply to N4ST
It is funny you mention that because that is exactly how I know what I can get now. I Recently got blockbuster added to my dish network and was playing around to see if I could start a movie and then pause it so it would download and I could watch it the next day. This was an HD movie and it did work and it was done when I got up the next morning waiting for me to hit play. Was Moby Dick 2010. According to the calculations, if I maintain at least 400 Kb/s which I do if the server I am downloading from isn't congested, then that adds up to 1.44 GB per hour or 7.2 GB per night. I can beat that if I get a good upload server because my overnight speeds have never dropped below 4 Mb/s that I have seen so far which is 500 KB/s actual download speed But I do have to admit that I have never had a download break the 500 KB/s speed yet. Since the speed increase I usually hang around 400 to 450 KB/s after the initial burst.

On another note I know I annoy some here but either way I hope you all have a safe and happy Thanksgiving.
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HughesNet elite plan/.74 dish w/1watt trans. / 9000 modem / 3 computers on a linksy's wired network


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