 andybPremium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
kudos:1
 ·TekSavvy DSL
1 edit | 2011-703 Filings MTS is first off and they may want ethernet transport also.(Havent read except a few paragraphs)
 11 11 25 MTS···rt I.pdf 157629 bytes
brief
11 11 25 MTS···ix A.pdf 93813 bytes
Pictures
|
|
 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:16 | Strictly deals with ethernet access, sadly. I mean, good thing to get tariffed, yes, but not what the average consumer wants.
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org |
|
andybPremium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
kudos:1 | It was sent to me and quotes 703 so its here for anyone to read.Some may like this shit some may not.I dont give a fuck.Just posting as I get em |
|
GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:16 | reply to andyb
I'm not criticizing you. Or MTS. Merely expressing impatience with the whole CRTC process.
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org |
|
andybPremium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
kudos:1 | reply to andyb
Probably why I'm angry.This whole 703 thing will be derailed by something.I dont like the costs in 703 but I want it to continue while things get hashed out and not just abandoned |
|
jfmezeiPremium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22 | The CRTC stepped on a hornett's nest with 703. There are a lot of bees flying around, trying to figure out how they can best sting. |
|
| said by jfmezei:The CRTC stepped on a hornett's nest with 703. There are a lot of bees flying around, trying to figure out how they can best sting. Sounds more like flies than bees to me... lots of buzz but no bite/sting. People may not like the distribution of Bell's costs but it currently works out cheaper overall than MTSA's so that pretty much throws MTSA's "ILEC victim" pose to the curb. Can't base "outrageous cost discrepancy" protestations on one single isolated component of a service that requires up to four monthly rate components to build a complete working service and the "MTSA is so much cheaper" argument fails the overall cost test. |
|
jfmezeiPremium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22 | Don't underestimate the bees. When they decide to sting, they will sting. Consider it the silence before the storm. |
|
xcimo
join:2007-11-21
Gatineau, QC | reply to andyb
Whats the reason for wasking for ethernet? |
|
 TSI MarcPremium,VIP
join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:3 | reply to jfmezei
bzzzz! |
|
| reply to xcimo
said by xcimo:Whats the reason for wasking for ethernet? Traffic does not magically jump from the incumbents' networks to the ISPs' and the mandated services for that (Ethernet Access Services) are almost at their sunset clause's expiry date (no more obligation from incumbents to provide it at regulated rates, if at all) so MTS wants the CRTC to review and extend it to avoid having to negotiate those services with Bellus... assuming Bellus does not outright scrap them and refuse to renew existing contracts after they expire once they will no longer be required to provide them.
As for why this got filed under 2011-703, I have absolutely no idea... probably clerical error. |
|
| reply to andyb
The best quotes from MTS from this filing:
quote:
The natural economic interest of any service provider (and its
shareholders) is to hold onto the maximum amount of revenues and earnings
possible and give as little share of these to their competitors. This is rational
behaviour.This is why all ILECs resist competition and, consequently, mandated
access to any of the underlying facilities and services they currently use to
provide services.
This next part is sad,but true(to a extent). quote:
The greater the market power of the incumbent the more easily
it can thwart competition.
|
|
DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
join:2009-06-15
START&Cogeco
kudos:6 | reply to TSI Marc
 |
|
|
|
alkizmo
join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC | reply to jfmezei
said by jfmezei:The CRTC stepped on a hornett's nest with 703. There are a lot of bees flying around, trying to figure out how they can best sting.
Why the hell are bees flying around a hornet's nest? |
|
| said by alkizmo:Why the hell are bees flying around a hornet's nest? They are killer bees wannabees. |
|
| said by InvalidError:said by alkizmo:Why the hell are bees flying around a hornet's nest? They are killer bees wannabees. Wouldn't that be 'killer bee wannabees'?
Unless of course they weren't killer bees to begin with. |
|
 MerovingianCause and Effect
join:2011-03-31
Toronto, ON
kudos:1
 ·TekSavvy Cable
| said by MaynardKrebs:said by InvalidError:said by alkizmo:Why the hell are bees flying around a hornet's nest? They are killer bees wannabees. Wouldn't that be 'killer bee wannabees'? Unless of course they weren't killer bees to begin with. Did you mean "Killer wan·na·be Bees"?
--
You see there is only one constant. One universal. It is the only real truth. Causality. Action, reaction. Cause and effect.
-Motorola SB6120-1.0.6.1 + Netgear RangeMax WNDR3700v1 + Dupont POI + eXtreme Cable Pr0
|
|
| said by Merovingian:Did you mean "Killer wan·na·be Bees"?\
Unless I meant wannabee killer bees. |
|
alkizmo
join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC | No no, there are 5 different meanings:
- Bees that want to be killers.
- Bees that want to be killer bees.
- Killers that want to be bees.
- Hornets that want to be killer bees. (refering to how it all started)
- Killer bees that want to be hornets (Refering again to how it all started - The killer bees built a hornet's nest). |
|
jfmezeiPremium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22 Reviews:
·ELECTRONICBOX
| alkizmo, you forgot:
CRTC stepped on hornets' nest. Hornets outrourced the response to nearby bees who will do a better jobs at stinging and at a lower cost to Hornets. (do hornets lose their life after they have sung a human ? If so, that would be good enoug incentive for them to outsource their response to the CRTC). |
|
