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MrMoody
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HDMI Toslink (spdif) splitter?

I just got a cheap Blu-Ray player. It has options in the menus for limiting the audio types over HDMI. It lacks a digital audio output.

My receiver is older and has toslink/coax digital audio inputs but no HDMI.

My HDTV has a coax digital out that supports AC3 5.1 from ATSC that works.

However, it seems to only output 48k PCM stereo from the HDMI input; it won't pass through the re-compressed DTS (or even 96k PCM) from the BD player.

So what I need is a splitter that will pass through HDMI and output the digital audio on a Toslink.

This looks close but I don't need multiple inputs or a remote. Is there anything available like what I am saying?
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Jahntassa
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That's probably the cheapest way to do it, however you can get it from the source here : »www.monoprice.com/products/produ···format=2


BoulderHill1

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reply to MrMoody

said by MrMoody:

However, it seems to only output 48k PCM stereo from the HDMI input; it won't pass through the re-compressed DTS (or even 96k PCM) from the BD player.

This is normal and intended operation of the TV's digital audio output. The tv does not pass digital audio signals that it receives via the HDMI input. Thank the DMCA for this.

The TV only outputs 5.1 digital audio from its own ATSC tuner over the digital audio output.

Jahntassa linked the same device you did. This will accomplish what you are looking to do.

By the way, what Bluray player do you have that lacks a digital audio output?


MrMoody
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said by BoulderHill1:

By the way, what Bluray player do you have that lacks a digital audio output?

LG BD-610, $49 Walmart special. In hindsight I might have been better off spending $90 on one with a digital output, same money less kludges.
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BoulderHill1

join:2004-07-15
Montgomery, IL

Wow. I just looked at your owners guide. I didn't realize that there were bluray players that came that way.

No component video either.

Either Red/White/Yellow or HDMI period.



MrMoody
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said by BoulderHill1:

Wow. I just looked at your owners guide. I didn't realize that there were bluray players that came that way.

Heh, I didn't either until I got it home. I'm seriously considering taking it back. It was a Black Friday deal and they still had a huge pile on Saturday.
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Dogg
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reply to MrMoody
Only HDMI has the bandwidth to pass the uncompressed audio formats used on Blu-Ray discs. If you limit the audio bitrate with the player, then the switch you are looking at should work.
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MrMoody
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reply to MrMoody
Continuing this issue, I've definitely decided to return this unit and buy one with digital audio out.

My receiver (Sony DB930) only has one coax input which is already occupied by the TV. Unfortunately this seems to have become the winning standard (due to cost I assume). Yes, I know there are converters but now we're talking another $30-$40 again, more cable spaghetti, power outlet, etc.

I've discovered that of the main brands, only Samsung seems to make players with optical out. I looked at a BD-D5100 for $87 at the Walmart, but there's an oddity: The display unit there has optical out, but when I look online they list coaxial. Did they change it mid-production? The (old looking) boxes at WM give no indication of what's inside.

I guess I will spring for a BD-D5300 online unless someone has a better suggestion.

I know I really need a new receiver, but that's not in the budget for a while, and the old one still works well.

Another side issue, the LG doesn't play DVD-Audio discs. With HDMI audio this would seem to be a trivial firmware capability. Do any BD players do this?
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Dogg
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reply to MrMoody
The Oppo units support DVD-Audio. Not that I'd consider that an issue. I've not seen nor know anyone that even has one.
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MrMoody
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said by Dogg:

The Oppo units support DVD-Audio. Not that I'd consider that an issue. I've not seen nor know anyone that even has one.

I have a couple dozen. When I get a new receiver it would be nice to be able to play them on it. As it is I would have to keep my DVD player with analog 5.1 out.

Walmart mystery solved: The Samsung display unit is a BD-D5300, but only 5100s and 5700s are for sale. Typical.
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looker

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Yes, The Toshiba 5300 has an optical audio output but the player's loading time is SLOW.

I returned mine after 30 days of frustration over the wait.

I am now searching for another player.


Verge

join:2001-05-30
Fayetteville, AR

reply to BoulderHill1

said by BoulderHill1:

Wow. I just looked at your owners guide. I didn't realize that there were bluray players that came that way.

No component video either.

Either Red/White/Yellow or HDMI period.

Can't output HD over component anymore as of January 2011. No point in putting it on there.


MrMoody
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reply to looker
Great. I just got the Sammy D5300 today.

It's defective. It's electronically insane. It acts like someone is pushing random remote buttons over and over constantly. The first thing it does is close the tray as soon as you open it, great fun. Updating the firmware to the latest didn't help.

I'm done with Samsung, the last Samsung I had (an RPTV) was an expensive, short-lived piece of crap.
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"When all you have in the country is people pulling coffees, flipping burgers and manufacturing financial scams, your nation is doomed."-Karl Denninger,market-ticker.org



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reply to MrMoody
I've used several Samsung monitors and I have a DVD player. I'm not happy with the DVD player either. For monitors/TV's, they are great. Not so much for electronics it appears.

If you have the budget, I recommend the Oppo. I have an older model and it has been rock solid.
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MrMoody
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reply to BoulderHill1

said by BoulderHill1:

said by MrMoody:

However, it seems to only output 48k PCM stereo from the HDMI input; it won't pass through the re-compressed DTS (or even 96k PCM) from the BD player.

This is normal and intended operation of the TV's digital audio output. The tv does not pass digital audio signals that it receives via the HDMI input. Thank the DMCA for this.

The TV only outputs 5.1 digital audio from its own ATSC tuner over the digital audio output.

Update: It appears the above is not quite correct. My daughter's XBox 360 DOES output AC3 5.1 through the HDMI>TV>Digital audio output. Works perfectly. So it CAN be done if BD manufacturers allowed it.
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"When all you have in the country is people pulling coffees, flipping burgers and manufacturing financial scams, your nation is doomed."-Karl Denninger,market-ticker.org

floydb1982

join:2004-08-25
Kent, WA

reply to MrMoody
As far as I know the coax digital audio ports are all input only. At least it is that way with my 2009 Magnavox CFL LCD 47" 1080p TV.


floydb1982

join:2004-08-25
Kent, WA

reply to BoulderHill1
My understanding is that component video can handle 1080p in analog but Hollywood lawyers won't allow it. I think that is why they don't have component port on them anymore. Why bother with composite when it only does standard definition.


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