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Cudni
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AV-Comparatives.org, bullying, censorship and financial deal

"..
Peter Stelzhammer of AV-comparatives.org is threating me and blackmailing me saying that if I don’t “censor” my forum postings they will reveal “confidential” information.
.."

»www.melih.com/2011/11/27 ··· vendors/

Almost like watching a soap opera

edit: and a reply from AVC
»www.av-comparatives.org/ ··· dID=1054

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Truly.


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Those supposed unbiased tests have been useless for years.

Good for you for pointing it out.

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Melih is the star in many soap opera's, in the beginning it was amusing to watch his melodramatic way of acting, now it's just annoying. Can be that Melih missed the continuous fuss around him, he was always the superstar in horror stories. Probably he desperately need attention from the crowd again, he loves such and can't live without. Poor Melih...

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Is it me or am I the only one who doesnt really understand what Melih is trying to say? Vendors pay for testing and thats a big secret? How else would av-comparatives pay the staff that runs the tests? IDK.. I read the email twice and all I got from it was av-compartives trying to defend themselves against Melih's bashing (after the fact he found out his product scored badly) The whole detection/protection arguement I dont really understand either.. Detection = Part of protection. Personally if there is anyone I wouldnt trust right now in the security area its Melih.

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I don't understand why was it necessary to use a threat of revealing some info to compel Comodo to remove some posts. Asking not enough these days it seems.

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»www.av-comparatives.org/ ··· dID=1054

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Nothing new from Melih!

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Ugh. When will folks learn to stay completely away from Comodo products and to disable all Comodo related certs in their browsers?

Melih has been banned from several respectable security forums because of this type of ranting that is irresponsible and immature coming from the CEO of a security company. Now he is at it again and has no foundation in fact upon which to base his rant.

I am proud of IBK See Profile as his response is quite mature, to the point, and factual. That in the face of Melih's attempt to provoke IBK See Profile. I fully support his wise decision to stop testing Comodo products for the foreseeable future.

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Hmm, who do I believe, Melih ? or Av-Comparatives. That is one hard decision. No wait, not really, I believe AVC.

Melih is certifiable.
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Hmm...
Apparently, the tracking is because he has a video blog at Youtube but still...youtube should not track just because I visited Melih's blog link mentioned in this thread. After I noticed the tracking, I did, out of curiosity, go to his video blog page. I found this SCARY AND DEPRESSING statement:

"Comodo has powered its way to the number two Certificate Authority position, controlling nearly one-third of all SSL certificates worldwide." OMG. (bolding is mine)

»www.youtube.com/melihvision
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Hmmmm, Melih in the first corner, AVC in the other.
I vote for a double KO !

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said by Mele20:

Ugh. When will folks learn to stay completely away from Comodo products and to disable all Comodo related certs in their browsers?

Melih has been banned from several respectable security forums because of this type of ranting that is irresponsible and immature coming from the CEO of a security company. Now he is at it again and has no foundation in fact upon which to base his rant.

I am proud of IBK See Profile as his response is quite mature, to the point, and factual. That in the face of Melih's attempt to provoke IBK See Profile. I fully support his wise decision to stop testing Comodo products for the foreseeable future.

Even though I never used Comodo Products I probably would use the FW but Melih is such an Idiot as a CEO and it's been going on for years! Also I wouldn't recommend to anyone to use any of there products for that reason!

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Well, I'm not a fan of Melih, I have no idea what he's trying to do. But I am a big fan of the Comodo products - they are as good or better than anything I've tried, and they're free.

If I didn't use products because I didn't like the CEO, I couldn't use Microsoft (Ballmer is pretty crazy) or Apple (well, I don't know about Tim Cook, but Jobs was pretty out there)...

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said by Ryan:

Is it me or am I the only one who doesnt really understand what Melih is trying to say? Vendors pay for testing and thats a big secret? How else would av-comparatives pay the staff that runs the tests? IDK.. I read the email twice and all I got from it was av-compartives trying to defend themselves against Melih's bashing (after the fact he found out his product scored badly) The whole detection/protection arguement I dont really understand either.. Detection = Part of protection. Personally if there is anyone I wouldnt trust right now in the security area its Melih.

ditto

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said by Smokey Bear:

Melih is the star in many soap opera's, in the beginning it was amusing to watch his melodramatic way of acting, now it's just annoying. Can be that Melih missed the continuous fuss around him, he was always the superstar in horror stories. Probably he desperately need attention from the crowd again, he loves such and can't live without. Poor Melih...

This one has remarkable similarities to a previous script.
"Playing David" dosen't fit either. Galieth should just pay.
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What do you do when faced with a bully, censor and/or blackmailer? Send $50,000 their way!

www.melih.com/2011/12/07/comodo-agrees-to-pay-50000-to-av-comparatives-org-for-test-auditing-validation/

Thread at Comodo with replies from Peter (AV-Comparatives)

»forums.comodo.com/melihs ··· 1.0.html

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said by windaz:
forums.comodo.com/melihs-corner-ceo-talkdiscussionsblog/comodo-agrees-to-pay-50000-to-avcomparativesorg-t7a9151.0.html

Error 404 "Page not found"
Expand your moderator at work
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Re: AV-Comparatives.org, bullying, censorship and financial deal

This link should work

»forums.comodo.com/melihs ··· 1.0.html

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said by windaz:
This link should work

»forums.comodo.com/melihs ··· 1.0.html

Thanks.

It's like I told before, Melih missed the continuous fuss around him, he desperately need attention from the crowd again. People like K McAleavey See Profile don't fit in that Melih Oneman Show PR Campaign, to Melih they are just annoying pests. This time AV-Comparatives.org is the main aim to attack. Poor Melih, he is getting really desperate...
Expand your moderator at work
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Re: AV-Comparatives.org, bullying, censorship and financial deal

You know what would put an end to this? Microsoft Corporation! If Steve Ballmer would release a statement affirming AV-Comparatives.org's legitimacy, that would be huge and put an end to this conundrum. Unfortunately I don't think he would care, or MS for that matter!

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said by DarkSithPro:

You know what would put an end to this? Microsoft Corporation! If Steve Ballmer would release a statement affirming AV-Comparatives.org's legitimacy, that would be huge and put an end to this conundrum. Unfortunately I don't think he would care, or MS for that matter!

I think a bigger impact would be if Steve Jobs released a statement confirming AV-COMP legitimacy. Maybe then Melih would listen, but then again maybe not.

Melih is the major reason I don't use comodo, I don't trust him so I don't trust the tools he oversees.

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If Steve Jobs released a statement confirming AV-COMP legitimacy, I believe that that would have far more an impact on the world than on Melih!

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said by Ryan:

Is it me or am I the only one who doesnt really understand what Melih is trying to say?

What I would say is I understand perfectly what he is saying. It is crystal clear. Then he shows us the email from AV-Comparatives.org upon which he basis his claim.

One problem, on the face alone the emails don't say what he alleges.

Loser.