 GemstonePremium
join:2000-12-20
Long Island
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| Internet Radio I am considering the purchase of a table top internet radio... First on the list is the Logitech Squeezebox... But I am a little confused about the WiFi compatibility... I have a Cisco/Linksys E4200 Wireless-N router... One set of specs I read on the Logitech radio say only B or G wireless but another set of specs on the TigerDirect website also say compatible with N wireless...
Does anyone know if this radio will work with wireless N wifi?... Or is there another internet radio out there to recommend?
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| Streaming audio requires very little bandwidth so B or G mode should work just fine. As for the router, I've never seen an N router that wasn't backwards compatible to B and G devices as well.
I just use old laptops for internet radio out in the garage. They're too weak for most other uses, but stream via Winamp just fine. Hook up a decent amp and speakers and rock out.  |
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GemstonePremium
join:2000-12-20
Long Island Reviews:
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| said by HarryH3:Streaming audio requires very little bandwidth so B or G mode should work just fine. As for the router, I've never seen an N router that wasn't backwards compatible to B and G devices as well.
I just use old laptops for internet radio out in the garage. They're too weak for most other uses, but stream via Winamp just fine. Hook up a decent amp and speakers and rock out.
I must be thinking backwards. I am thinking that the Logitech Internet radio might not be up compatible to a wireless-N router?
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robbinPremium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
kudos:1 | The Squeezebox will work just fine with your router. You will want to make sure that you have the network mode for 2.4GHz set to mixed mode (page 12 of router user manual). Mixed mode supports B, G as well as N in the 2.4GHz band. |
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IanR
join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ | reply to Gemstone
I have 2 Boom's and 2 Radio's frm Logitech I beliveve they work at G speeds. They should work fine with your router. |
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GemstonePremium
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said by robbin:The Squeezebox will work just fine with your router. You will want to make sure that you have the network mode for 2.4GHz set to mixed mode (page 12 of router user manual). Mixed mode supports B, G as well as N in the 2.4GHz band.
I am wireless router "challenged", LOL... Let me check the settings and report back to you... Thanks...
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GemstonePremium
join:2000-12-20
Long Island | reply to robbin
My Linksys E4200 wireless settings are as follows:
WiFi Protected Setup:
5 Ghz: WPA2/WPA Mixed Mode
2.4 Ghz: WPA2/WPA Mixed Mode
Will that work?
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robbinPremium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
kudos:1 | Yes, that should work with the Squeezebox Radio. |
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GemstonePremium
join:2000-12-20
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| said by robbin:Yes, that should work with the Squeezebox Radio.
Ok, kewl... I think it's officially on my Christmas list!... Thanks...
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 PCInTechkeeping art alive since 1953Premium
join:2004-06-07
Massena, NY
kudos:9 | reply to Gemstone
I have a Livio Pandora radio, and love it more than anything else in the Universe. It works great on a Buffalo N router, but in G mode. Most will be similar. |
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GemstonePremium
join:2000-12-20
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| said by PCInTech:I have a Livio Pandora radio, and love it more than anything else in the Universe. It works great on a Buffalo N router, but in G mode. Most will be similar.
Very Interesting... How would you compare the Livio Pandora radio to the Logitech Squeezebox radio?
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PCInTechkeeping art alive since 1953Premium
join:2004-06-07
Massena, NY
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1 edit | said by Gemstone:Very Interesting... How would you compare the Livio Pandora radio to the Logitech Squeezebox radio?
I avoided the Squeezebox after reading too many reports about it being extremely "buggy" and lack of interest by Logitech in solving problems. I liked the people at Livio immediately, as their support is in the US with knowledgeable technicians at the other end of the phone. The radio itself is very robust, and solid, not "cheap" feeling at all, more like a solid old FM table radio of days gone by. 
Adding, and searching for stations can be a bit cumbersome, but sign up for a free Reciva account, register your radio to it (and also to Pandora) and manipulating and managing your stations becomes painless. The sound quality is quite respectable for a "table radio" (Mono, of course) but you can plug it into your Stereo system with the included RCA jack adapter and it sounds incredible.
I can't say enough about their support! I had a minor problem after a couple of months, the WiFi card went "bad". I called them, and they immediately gave me an RMA (1 year warranty) and I sent it to them in Michigan. They fixed it within hours and sent it back immediately, keeping me constantly informed by phone and email. They even did a follow-up when I got it back to make sure everything was A-1. They had replaced the WiFi card with an improved model that has even better range and connectivity than the original. By the way, their techs are intimately familiar with just about every brand of router out there, and can help you with unusual setup problems, but the thing "just works", so you probably won't need more than their setup manual.
Feel free to PM me with any questions, I'm really enthusiastic about my radio and think everybody should own one. 
(Edit:) By the way, I have the "original" LV001 radio, with both wired ethernet and wireless. They no longer make this, the new one is wireless-only. You can get great deals on the older one, like mine, with open-box units direct from Livio. They still have full factory warranty, so no worries whatsoever. |
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GemstonePremium
join:2000-12-20
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| Wow, excellent information... Thank-you!
I am an "old" Ham radio guy, so I still enjoy having a good quality table radio in the house... I like the idea of combining an old style table radio with new technology...
Although I plan on using this via my in-house WiFi (hence my initial questions) I would also like to have a hardwired ethernet port available...
I wonder if this is the same radio? (They say it has an ethernet port)
»www.ccrane.com/radios/wifi-radio···dio.aspx
Are there any other differences between the old LV001 and the new LV001B??
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IanR
join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ | reply to Gemstone
Logitech has regular "sales" of their "radio" around the $80-90 for "open box" items. That's how I bought mine.
And yes it works both on wifi and on wired ethernet connection. |
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PCInTechkeeping art alive since 1953Premium
join:2004-06-07
Massena, NY
kudos:9 Reviews:
·VoicePulse
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said by Gemstone:I still enjoy having a good quality table radio in the house... I like the idea of combining an old style table radio with new technology...
Although I plan on using this via my in-house WiFi (hence my initial questions) I would also like to have a hardwired ethernet port available...
I wonder if this is the same radio? (They say it has an ethernet port)
»www.ccrane.com/radios/wifi-radio···dio.aspx
Are there any other differences between the old LV001 and the new LV001B??
I know, I was intrigued by the concept of combining the look and feel of my old KLH, Sony and Zenith table radios with the ability to pick up the 10s of thousands of Internet radio stations.
The C.Crane radio is a little different, same concept, smaller speaker, and lacks the Pandora extra features, like the "thumbs up/thumbs down" buttons to customize your own Pandora "stations". It looks nice, but I don't have any experience with the Crane or the company's support.
The only differences between the LV001 and the LV001B are the RJ45 Ethernet port, and the front face color. I sought out the "old" one because when it's sitting in my office or mastering studio (I'm a recording engineer) I prefer to have it "hard-wired", still leery of this new-fangled WiFi stuff. But when I take it in the kitchen while I'm doing dishes, cooking, etc. or my wife takes it out on the front porch in the Summer, it's running wireless just fine.
The Logitech is a fine unit, I'm sure, I just didn't have use for the color screen with all the "doo-dads" it has, like access to paid subscription services. To me, that defeated the purpose of "free" Internet radio. It was also "cheap" feeling, I dunno. Just another geeky plastic toy. The Livio felt like a real "radio" to me, but I'm old. And, I really, REALLY like the concept of a US Company with US support that's staffed by technicians, and not script readers. |
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said by PCInTech:said by Gemstone:Very Interesting... How would you compare the Livio Pandora radio to the Logitech Squeezebox radio?
I avoided the Squeezebox after reading too many reports about it being extremely "buggy" and lack of interest by Logitech in solving problems. I liked the people at Livio immediately, as their support is in the US with knowledgeable technicians at the other end of the phone. The radio itself is very robust, and solid, not "cheap" feeling at all, more like a solid old FM table radio of days gone by. I own a Squeezebox and can testify that the radio is a pain in the *ss and Logitech does not want to spend any time solving problems.
It seems every 3 weeks there is a software update and the darn thing won't let you keep the current firmware unless the you find an exploit to bypass the update screen.
More than a couple of times the firmware created new bugs.
Getting the server software on PC side to work is another pain. There is nothing like STUN protocol---you have to open ports on the router. You have to go through hoops and hurdles to use a static IP. I ended up reserving the mac address on the radio for the same address handed out by DHCP.
One of the updates of PC server software kept crapping out so I downgraded. Now everytime I switch from PC library to mysqueezebox.com library I have to update/downgrade the firmware in the radio or keep hitting buttons until I exploit my way out of the update screen.
These people do not test their software.
That being said, I can get everything from the local VHF weather broadcast to Pandora to thousands of radio stations around the world.
So I put up with it....but I would not recommend it to any of my friends. |
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PCInTechkeeping art alive since 1953Premium
join:2004-06-07
Massena, NY
kudos:9 | Wow. That's exactly the things I was reading over and over from many sources. Makes me happy I got the Livio. No drama. |
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IanR
join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ | reply to Gemstone
I am thankfull that Logitech have a continuous firmware update. The very occasional issues are quickly sorted. There are also very active forums at Logitech and also the riginal users forum just research "slimdevices forum". |
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 FobulousPremium
join:2002-08-14
Missouri City, TX | reply to Gemstone
I am looking for an Internet Radio as well . As a big fan of Grooveshark i can't seem to find a compatible radio...
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PCInTechkeeping art alive since 1953Premium
join:2004-06-07
Massena, NY
kudos:9 Reviews:
·VoicePulse
| said by Fobulous:I am looking for an Internet Radio as well . As a big fan of Grooveshark i can't seem to find a compatible radio...
Livio has Grooveshark on their car radio, don't know about the home radios. |
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