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kudos:3 | Re: A UBB plan can be designed to be revenue neutral said by r81984:Your usage is insignificant to the costs of your connection.
If you call tech support once you already cost more than someone maxing their connection out.
Light users should not have a reducting in bills as then everyone else would be subsidizing their physical connection and equipment.
Source?
The cost to move residential data is much smaller than most UBB plans lead to believe...but there are costs involved. This is the first I've heard that there is zero cost to move them, regardless of moving 1 MB or 1 TB. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: A UBB plan can be designed to be revenue neutral So, no source to the "insignificant" costs involved, okay. | |
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I'm not the one claiming that bandwidth costs are insignificant. I just want to know where they got their source for the information so that it's not just one person's hearsay.
And from the sources quoted there, bandwidth costs aren't free, but they are cheap - ranging form $0.05 per GB to $1 per MB (seems a bit high), depending on the customer/client involved. That's still a range of $50-$1000+ per TB.
So, even from those sources, a heavy-use broadband customer has a more-than-significant broadband cost as compared to a light-use customer.
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kudos:3 | Re: A UBB plan can be designed to be revenue neutral Pretty sure the costs/operation involved in running a major DSL/Cable ISP are a lot different than the CAT5 network you've got in your house. If you wish to prove otherwise, again, please state some sources. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: A UBB plan can be designed to be revenue neutral said by r81984:If you know how a network works then it is common sense knowledge.
So you believe a cable/DSL ISP operates exactly like the CAT5 & WiFi network running at my house. Neat.
said by r81984:Plus the huge profits ISPs had from 1995 to 2011 shows you how usage does not matter in their costs.
Profit != Decreasing Costs
These companies have been asking for more money & providing less service. Simply being profitable doesn't explain/prove your point at all.
said by r81984:Usage Base Billing is 100% only to prevent internet competition with TV services, I thought this was also common knowledge by now.
It is. What I'm looking for is your source that heavy data users are no different (or negligibly so) from their light data use counterparts.
said by r81984:Even when experts talk about the cost per GB all they are doing is taking the fixed costs of the network and dividing it by the bandwidth of the network.
Every "expert" source I've seen writes off these costs as "small" or "negligible"...but provides no actual numbers as to compare scales. One person's "small" is another person's "significant". The sources I've seen in this thread actually provide numbers to the reader indicate that a heavy user's costs to the ISP are noticeable (at least to me) compared to a light user. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: A UBB plan can be designed to be revenue neutral I'm just trying to clarify your position by reading whatever documentation you have that explains your position. However, the more we discuss, the more your "facts" seem to be a matter of your own opinion. | |
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