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Re: What a joke "could have a monthly cap of just 7.5 GB"
There is nothing to back this up and the quoted thread lacks a post with anyone with any authority form Wild Blue. In other words Karl is making it up as he goes along bashing someone he does not like.
The linked thread suggests that there are three tiers and maybe they all have the same download speed but what is different is the cap. |
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Camden, TN | said by battleop:
"could have a monthly cap of just 7.5 GB"
There is nothing to back this up and the quoted thread lacks a post with anyone with any authority form Wild Blue. In other words Karl is making it up as he goes along bashing someone he does not like.
The linked thread suggests that there are three tiers and maybe they all have the same download speed but what is different is the cap.
said by Sircolby45:Plan 1 $49.99 7.5 GB cap
Plan 2 $79.99 15 GB cap
Plan 3 $129.99 25 GB cap
This is what is rumored to be the new data allowances. It gets even better. It is also said that this is DL & UL combined. If they come out with these packages I will laugh all the way to my local Hughesnet installer. Then I will laugh again when Hughesnet buries them. Seriously I hope this is a joke, because these caps are a joke. They better come out with something better than that, because Hughesnet is bringing something better than that to the table right now without Jupiter. Their idea of revolutionizing satellite technology is shaving 2GB of the $79.99 package and on top of that making the upload count against it too? Are they nuts? I am seriously hoping the people posting this have got wrong information, because these packages are utter and complete crap.
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| Its a sat service , what do you expect? Unlimited Bandwidth? Its the only time such caps are really required because its pretty damn hard to increase the total network bandwidth when the primary array is hundreds of miles above the Earth floating in Orbit.
Compared to the 250 meg or 500 meg caps of other sat providers , 25GB is pretty damn decent and well in live with general personal usage across even regular ISP providers of DSL and Cable.
12mbps must seem like magic to those that have had shitty 1.5mbps sat connections with 1000+ ms latency for the last 10+ years. |
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So that is an official announcement from Wild Blue? |
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said by clarknova156:Its a sat service , what do you expect? Unlimited Bandwidth? Its the only time such caps are really required because its pretty damn hard to increase the total network bandwidth when the primary array is hundreds of miles above the Earth floating in Orbit.
Compared to the 250 meg or 500 meg caps of other sat providers , 25GB is pretty damn decent and well in live with general personal usage across even regular ISP providers of DSL and Cable.
12mbps must seem like magic to those that have had shitty 1.5mbps sat connections with 1000+ ms latency for the last 10+ years.
You are mistaken here. The other sat provider that offers 250-500mb caps offers that on a daily 24 hour basis. Also Hughesnet offers a FAP free time in the middle of the night for large downloads. On top of that any usage you don't use gets rolled over to the next day up to double your daily allowance. These caps are for a full 30 days. So 25GB is not even close to decent and especially not for $129.99 a month. Right now Hughesnet has a far superior FAP policy IMO. Even more so with the new plans.
Also to the article author this is not an increase of a few 100mb per day. This is a significant decrease in the monthly limit. The old FAP on the $79.99 plan was 17GB Down and 5GB up. This new plan at $79.99 is 15GB and both upload and download will count towards that. If you combined the old plan it would amount to 22GB combined. That is a significant cut for a satellite that supposedly was going to revolutionize the satellite industry. As I stated in my forum post I hope this is wrong information, because if it is not it's a joke.
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But many folks aren't going to find out about the caps until it's too late. They're going to get suckered in by the promise of fast speeds. "12 megabits? Hell, I don't think my brother-in-law can get that on his cable Internet. I'll take it!" They'll get the equipment installed, and maybe they'll read about the caps, but they likely won't process it. It'll be some abstract number until they actually hit it, which won't take too long. At that point, they'll have already bought the equipment, so they're stuck.
It's a great marketing gimmick. A horrible product but great marketing. |
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250-500 megabytes a day? Wow never realize how screwed sat users were , I blew threw that in the last 5 minutes on FiOS. 25GB is far from decent but not having to worry about daily caps is a different side of the coin and most users will not use more than 25GB a month , but of course anyone with a Netflix account and viewing HD movies can totally blow that cap out of the water.
The speed difference is there 1.5mbps (which is the speed I was getting with Road Runner in New York state back in 1998) and up to 20Mbps with this new sat in place is quite a difference in speed. All around sat service is a royal screw job but the only option for those in boonies... if I had to choose between 1.5mbps with 250-500 meg caps during the day and 20mbps and 25GB Download cap per month the faster speed would probably lure me over. |
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1 edit | said by clarknova156:250-500 megabytes a day? Wow never realize how screwed sat users were , I blew threw that in the last 5 minutes on FiOS. 25GB is far from decent but not having to worry about daily caps is a different side of the coin and most users will not use more than 25GB a month , but of course anyone with a Netflix account and viewing HD movies can totally blow that cap out of the water.
The speed difference is there 1.5mbps (which is the speed I was getting with Road Runner in New York state back in 1998) and up to 20Mbps with this new sat in place is quite a difference in speed. All around sat service is a royal screw job but the only option for those in boonies... if I had to choose between 1.5mbps with 250-500 meg caps during the day and 20mbps and 25GB Download cap per month the faster speed would probably lure me over.
You are not comparing Apples to Apples. You are comparing an $80 plan to a $130 plan. The $80 plan on Wildblue is 15GB, but it is not really 15GB because the upload will count towards that number as well. Hughesnet's $110 plan(which is still cheaper) offers 2MB and 450-900MB a day. Also users are reporting getting sometimes double the speed of what they are paying for, so basically they are under promising and over delivering. Something Wildblue has a big rep of doing far the opposite. On top of that you can download FAR more per moth with Hughesnet. The reason is they have a FAP free time where the data doesn't count towards your FAP at certain times of the night. This allows you to schedule big downloads to run then and you can download as much as you want. This IMO gives Hughesnet the edge. If Wildblue did the same(which they don't appear to be) it would be a different story.
What good is 20MBps with caps like what they are offering? If you use anything that needs that kind of speed you will chew through your whole months allowance in a matter of hours. Wildblue's plans are blatantly centered around sleight of hand. They are saying hey look at these awesome speeds in hopes that you won't look at the data caps or like many people in society today have no idea what a GB amounts too. It is blatantly taking advantage of everybody who is not well educated in technology.
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But don't you still have the huge latency problems? The satellite is still thousands of miles away. So while the increase helps you with downloading big files, it doesn't help you with playing games or web browsing--where latency is the problem. |
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