 mlernerPremium join:2000-11-25 Nepean, ON kudos:5 | reply to bfksc
Re: Rogers shutting down Portable Internet service Well the portable service wasn't mean as a permanent solution either. It was worse than real WiMax or LTE in terms of capacity. The fact of the matter is, Bell and Rogers aren't interested in providing a wireline equivalent service for rural areas and even if they were it's too costly, certainly not at the prices they're offering now but much higher than a wireline service. |
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| reply to abitbent I would suggest users in durham check out www.ontariohighspeed.ca
For residential 4 megabits per second down 384 kilobits per second upload. 100GB limit
For business 5 megabit's per second down, 512 kilobits per second upload 120GB limit.
To prevent a small percentage of the user-base from consuming a large amount's of the capacity we have a 30 day limit. If the limit is exceeded the connection is slowed to 1.5 megabit's per second down and 256 killobits per second upload until the 30 day average falls within the limit.
We also have a very strict limit's for the amount of users we will put on each radio.
Higher speeds particularly on the upload are coming soon we are in the process of getting a 100 megabit circuit online at our main pop.
We also have more coverage then indicated on the coverage map now as well.
We strive to deliver the full speed all the time. |
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| reply to TLS2000 Not cost effective for who? You? Since when does Bell and Rogers care about you?
Seriously, think as a CEO and you'll realize the best decision is to avoid managing multiple wireless networks that aren't compatible with each other and fight for spectrum capacity.
The best decision and highest revenue is to shutdown Inukshuk and expand LTE.
LTE exists in some rural areas today (I live in a Rural area east of Ottawa and have 4G coverage). Agreed, it will never be available everywhere. But again, Bell and Rogers don't care about rural areas, only urban.
It's meaningless to argue against that. |
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 TLS2000Crazy CanuckPremium join:2004-02-24 Mississauga, ON | I think you're missing the point. Inukshuk was awarded the licence for that spectrum SPECIFICALLY because they were going to build a rural broadband network with it. By shutting it down, Rogers and Bell are now making Rural Broadband unobtainable to a lot of people who can't afford to spend in excess of $100 a month (or even $1000s) to replace their previous $60/mo service. If they aren't going to use that spectrum for what it was originally licenced for, they should lose it. -- Tom |
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| I'm not sure you understand how spectrum licensing works. That's not how Industry Canada distributed it, regardless of what people think their intentions were.
And although it partly was to provide broadband access to Rural areas, the majority of the spectrum coverage was issued in Urban areas (around two-thirds of it). |
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 DS256Premium join:2003-10-25 Markham, ON | reply to DS256 Talked with Rogers this week. No seasonal consideration till after the 2 year contract which means its questionable.
I then talked with SureNet that will provide Wireless on a seasonal basis for a 2 year contract. |
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 mozerdLight Will Pierce The DarknessPremium,MVM join:2004-04-23 Nepean, ON | Re: Rogers shutting down Portable Internet service The only way I would consider suggesting Xplornet to anyone is if they provided an unconditional 1 year satisfaction service guaranty ... past experiences were beyond horrible. |
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Feel free to post or PM me about certain areas, I can tell you if the service available there is new or legacy. |
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 loryder join:2011-12-15 Shelburne, ON | reply to abitbent I begrudgingly made the switch to the Rocket Hub in mid-January (didn't have much choice) and found the download speeds are sproradic with latency being far worse than with Portable Internet. Since then I've consistently had problems with latency (ping tests exceeding 400ms on a frequent basis) regardless of whether I'm surfing on weekdays, weeknights, or weekends. I've called their tech(less) support on several occasions and they haven't been helpful at all in addressing the issue. I'm now at the point where the service is unusable and, if this continues after next week, I'll terminate my service (despite the 2-year BS contract) and launch a law suite against Rogers (may consider a class-action suite if others are willing to join in). Selling a service that clearly doesn't live up to their claims is false advertising and fraudulent. |
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 bfkscUnlimited and Unthrottled on Distributel join:2011-11-22 Toronto, ON | said by loryder:I begrudgingly made the switch to the Rocket Hub in mid-January (didn't have much choice) and found the download speeds are sproradic with latency being far worse than with Portable Internet. Cellular technology has never been good enough for data due to high latency. 3G was claimed to be a big improvement over EDGE/2G, but it was just faster speeds with the same high latency. LTE is supposed to be better with latency, and so far it is (30-50ms on Speedtest.net), but when more people move over to LTE, will it start to bog down and suffer high latency and slower speeds?
The Rogers Rocket Hub is 3G and uses the same old cellular network (the 4G moniker is not accurate), so it's a poor choice for regular home use. Portable Internet used a different protocol and it had much lower latency, but not quite as good as LTE right now.
I'm now at the point where the service is unusable and, if this continues after next week, I'll terminate my service (despite the 2-year BS contract) A contract is not legally binding if the service provided is not up to their claims - it's a breach of contract. Trying to prove that to Rogers staff will be very hard - they'll deny all knowledge of high latency and claim it's somehow your fault.
If you do go to court, make sure you arm yourself with printouts from SpeedTest.net and PingTest.net (Rogers always recommends SpeedTest.net because it responds to SpeedBoost and does not show average/continuous data speeds) showing the high latency and packet loss. In this day and age of digital technology, there should be zero or very low packet loss on any digital network. If packets are lost, the system is not reliable. |
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 | reply to abitbent I did find out about Inukshuk being shut down a while ago. This network was jointly operated by Bell and Rogers and initially cost the Canadian taxpayer a good chunk of tax payer money. They have caved in to Rogers and Bell to make the bandwidth available to cellular service using the rather lame argument about compatibility with the European system. Therefore both Bell and Rogers are shutting down their respective Portable Internet services. (I am wondering if some people within Inukshuk are receiving some nice benefits...) I reluctantly got a Rockethub - and it worked OK. The only problem I have now is that Rogers cancelled all my email address because it seems that cancelling the portable internet cancels all email addresses associated with that account and while the people I was dealing with within Rogers knew I was being forced to cancel and was transferring to a Rockethub nobody transferred the email addresses to my new account. I wish some Rogers employee will cancel Ted Rogers' email address just out of the blue while he is waiting for an email for a multimillion deal. I would expect something would be done. I am very upset as I am dealing with government, pension funds, and others in my efforts to settle my wife's estate - I have given everybody my email address and any email will be bounced back until they re-instate the emails. This is unacceptable, stupid, heartless, insensitive behaviour. The least they could do is send a weeks warning email first - that would allow the customer to react before there is a problem. |
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 | reply to bfksc said by bfksc:In this day and age of digital technology, there should be zero or very low packet loss on any digital network. If packets are lost, the system is not reliable. Packet loss is normal on a congested network, be it wired or wireless. It is not necessarily an indication of reliability, it would be more an indicator of usability. |
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 PaoloMr. Wireless join:2004-05-29 Canada | reply to leotrogers said by leotrogers : I wish some Rogers employee will cancel Ted Rogers' email address just out of the blue while he is waiting for an email for a multimillion deal. I would expect something would be done. I hope u know he died. Let him rest in peace dude. -- Happiness is like peeing your pants... Everyone can see it, but only you can feel its Warmth!! |
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 sturbain join:2012-03-05 Niagara Falls, ON | reply to leotrogers
Re: Rogers shutting down Portable Internet service My neighbors (between Strathmore and Vulcan in Alberta - i.e. the middle of nowhere) just got Xplornet's satellite service from the new satellite. It works well. There are choices out there. |
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 Shoot join:2010-01-31 Castleton, ON | reply to 96922493 said by 96922493: Xplornet is worth another look.
Ahahahahahahaha!!!! |
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