mcevoys
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Ridgefield, CT | "Business Friendly" Connecticut runs another out of st Colt Firearms appears to be one of the many Connecticut companies looking for a less hostile home.
Connecticut workers worry about jobs in Colt's Fla. move
»www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/12/2···obs.html |
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bennorPremium
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New Haven, CT | Re: "Business Friendly" Connecticut runs another out o Not surprising. I don't blame them, any other business for moving out of this, or any other, high tax state.
The state has screwed Colt in the past. In 1990's the state banned both the Colt AR-15 and the Colt Sporter firearms (Sec. 53-202a. Assault weapons).  |
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 DrStrangeTechnically feasiblePremium
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Count me as a progressive who agrees that CT is hostile to business. Penny-wise and pound-foolish politicians from both parties have been ruining the state for decades. It's time for less corporate influence and more common sense in politics.
Small business should be encouraged to stay. Colt isn't small, but they've been here over a century and are part of our state's history and heritage. If they're leaving because of the hostile economic climate, it's a shame.
BTW: CBIA = part of the problem, not the solution.
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Colt had a Union. And they probably had good benefits too with an actual pension plan.
Its not CT that drove Colt away its Corporate Greed in its race to the bottom for employees. Now Colt workers in Florida will be non-union probably be working for less and working a lot more.
Nothing in that article said it was CT so called "hostile" business environment that drove them away.
I think they wanted to go down south to get rid of the union. |
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| said by Kommie:I think they wanted to go down south to get rid of the union. Good. Now the union is free to create its own business, offering products and/or services that people want to buy, and it can staff the business with union workers.
Workers Unite! |
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pandoraPremium
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Good. Now the union is free to create its own business, offering products and/or services that people want to buy, and it can staff the business with union workers.
Yes, that's the solution, we will create a workers paradise in Connecticut. What could possibly go wrong, it's not like communal industry has failed in the USSR, DDR, Cuba or North Korea. 
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KommiePremium
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| Your comparing totalitarian regiemes to unions?
In case you were wondering Scandinavia and Germany are at 90% Unions in the Workforce. Infact Germany is a Net Exporter.
Their economies are doing a lot better than we are. And their worker benefits are something Americans can only dream of.
I am suprisied you support the race to the bottom.
Those Florida Employees will probobly love to know they will be working at a buck more than minimum wage and no vacation time. |
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pandoraPremium
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| said by Kommie:Your comparing totalitarian regiemes to unions?
No, I'm comparing workers collectives to paradise.
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said by Kommie:Now Colt workers in Florida will be non-union probably be working for less and working a lot more.
Non-union means better efficiency and higher quality in virtually all instances. Just compare ShopRite with Stop&Shop...
In a non-union company the slackers can be easily replaced.
Florida means 2% less corporate tax, significantly less property tax.
Yeah, why NOT move? |
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| said by cowboyro:said by Kommie:Now Colt workers in Florida will be non-union probably be working for less and working a lot more.
Non-union means better efficiency and higher quality in virtually all instances. Just compare ShopRite with Stop&Shop... In a non-union company the slackers can be easily replaced. Florida means 2% less corporate tax, significantly less property tax. Yeah, why NOT move? You know a few months ago I have a friend that works at Stop and Shop and I was shocked they had a union.. My thought to mind was why do they need a union?
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pandoraPremium
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| said by Subaru:You know a few months ago I have a friend that works at Stop and Shop and I was shocked they had a union.. My thought to mind was why do they need a union?
In the Stop n Shop deli department in Danbury for the last few years, the workers don't follow basic hygiene imo. In any other store, these folks would have been fired. I guess the union or something protects the workers, and whoever is to educate them about safe food handling practices has either failed or been thwarted.
Either way, Stop n Shop gases it's meats, and at least in Danbury (the Stop n Shop by exit 4, I don't know about the one by exit 8) the deli department should be avoided unless you want slices that come in contact with most anything.
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said by Kommie:In case you were wondering Scandinavia and Germany are at 90% Unions in the Workforce....Their economies are doing a lot better than we are. "Scandinavia", as in the region with such an efficient market economy that they can't even supply butter to their countrymen...?
»www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/world/eur···t=wo_bn6
I know it's odd, but I was at ShopRite just this afternoon and picked up a package of butter for my wife...the hard part was trying pick from all the choices and prices...DAMN YOU, CAPITALIST PIGS!!!! |
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A higher demand for butter as a result of low-carb diets and increased interest in natural, home-cooked meals is one reason for the shortage, according to Tine, the country's largest farmer-owned dairy cooperative.
A rainy summer reduced the quality of animal feed, decreasing milk production in Norway this year by 20 million liters (5.3 million gallons) compared with the same period last year, the cooperative said.
I bet you their Natural Butter tastes better than our Chemical Butter. |
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I wonder if that was a Union ShopRite:
"the vast majority of ShopRite workers have a union at their store"
»www.ufcw.org/wakefernworkersunit···ndex.cfm |
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said by Kommie:A higher demand for butter as a result of low-carb diets and increased interest in natural,
Butter is $2 a pound on a good sale here in the U.S. where we have many with interests in low carb diets and increased interest in natural foods.
Somehow our government hasn't screwed up the price of butter yet, but stuff like this may give them ideas.
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said by cowboyro:said by Kommie:Now Colt workers in Florida will be non-union probably be working for less and working a lot more.
Non-union means better efficiency and higher quality in virtually all instances. Just compare ShopRite with Stop&Shop... In a non-union company the slackers can be easily replaced. Florida means 2% less corporate tax, significantly less property tax. Yeah, why NOT move? Depends on the company. Case in point: UPS. Highly unionized, highly efficient, arguably best of breed for it's industry. |
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kudos:1 | said by cowboyro:said by JimCT:Depends on the company. Case in point: UPS. Highly unionized, highly efficient, arguably best of breed for it's industry. Caveat emptor: when a restructuring happens, it's not the least qualified or least productive who leaves, it's the one with the least seniority regardless of skills. And in a nonunion shop, when a restructuring happens, it's not the least qualified or least productive who leaves, it's the most loyal and experienced employee who always goes because they are viewed as too expensive and have too many earned benefits regardless of how much they produce.
I used to think like you when I really believed that there was a level playing field... but not anymore.... not after direct bailouts for:
Insurance companies
Automakers
Bankers
The unemployed
Welfare recipients
Underwater/over-leveraged homeowners including some flippers
-not to mentions all the indirect recipients of said bailouts (housing industry, hedge funds, etc.)
...the list goes on and on....
Seems like everyone from billionaire bankers to those without a nickel to their name were/are getting in line to get their free handouts... The only idiot not doing so was me. It was certainly a wake-up call.
For me, it's really one question: Will this benefit me? If the answer is yes, I'm all for it. Seems like it worked pretty well for bankers, insurance agents, auto workers, the unemployed, etc... If membership in a union can protect my interests, I'm all for it. |
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Wallingford, CT | reply to JimCT
Other side of that coin is the Postal Service.... |
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said by JimCT:And in a nonunion shop, when a restructuring happens, it's not the least qualified or least productive who leaves, it's the most loyal and experienced employee who always goes because they are viewed as too expensive and have too many earned benefits regardless of how much they produce. Only if the management is completely braindead.
Any half-decent manager knows that a loyal, productive employee will give the best bang for the buck.
Of course I'm not talking about people picking packages from a conveyor belt and placing them in a box... |
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