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aerith
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join:2008-12-31
Milpitas, CA

Sunset District

Really, start at Sunset District???

When I did a redfin search for available housing in the Sunset District, most of the available housing is one bathroom, and over $500,000 !!!

It would be smarter for Sonic.net to start at the Bayview District, where the average price for a house, according to redfin, is $450,000 vs. $720,000 for the Sunset District.

Although the Sunset District is a start, I would start in neighborhoods, where housing is cheaper.

Any fiber deployment will make the housing price go up, so it may not be an average of $700,000 for a house in the Sunset District, two years from now.

To dane, I know it will take "five" years to develop this for most of the San Francisco City, but please put the Bayview District next, as I am looking for new housing (currently, I am looking at Long Beach, CA for two reasons, 1. Long Beach has fiber optics, and 2. some bus routes have 15 minute frequency) anywhere where there is 24mbps internet that is not using DOCSIS, or from AT&T and Cenurylink, that from the house, there is a bus stop 0.125 miles from the house, and is also 15 minute frequency, and there are Frys Electronics and Micro Center within 3 hours by public transit.

I have a found a house in the Bayview District, but it's a short sale, and it's about $400,000.

cmaengdewd

@ldmengineering.com

Re: Sunset District

said by aerith:

Really, start at Sunset District???

When I did a redfin search for available housing in the Sunset District, most of the available housing is one bathroom, and over $500,000 !!!

It would be smarter for Sonic.net to start at the Bayview District, where the average price for a house, according to redfin, is $450,000 vs. $720,000 for the Sunset District.

Although the Sunset District is a start, I would start in neighborhoods, where housing is cheaper.

Any fiber deployment will make the housing price go up, so it may not be an average of $700,000 for a house in the Sunset District, two years from now.

To dane, I know it will take "five" years to develop this for most of the San Francisco City, but please put the Bayview District next, as I am looking for new housing (currently, I am looking at Long Beach, CA for two reasons, 1. Long Beach has fiber optics, and 2. some bus routes have 15 minute frequency) anywhere where there is 24mbps internet that is not using DOCSIS, or from AT&T and Cenurylink, that from the house, there is a bus stop 0.125 miles from the house, and is also 15 minute frequency, and there are Frys Electronics and Micro Center within 3 hours by public transit.

I have a found a house in the Bayview District, but it's a short sale, and it's about $400,000.

Installing service in Bayview makes as much sense as installing in Watts or Compton in LA. You're going to attract a lot more customers in Santa Monica then those areas, just like you will in Sunset vs Bayview.
klui

join:2001-11-08
San Jose, CA
Doesn't matter because when tech-savvy people finds out they'll drive the prices up anyway.
cooldude9919

join:2000-05-29
Cape Girardeau, MO
kudos:5
If i where to take a guess on their choice of starting points i would say its the following or combo of the following.

Current user density:
They did research and found they have a high density of current customers in this area that they can move to fiber, so they already have some guaranteed customers.

Construction cost/permits:
Easier at this area for construction (all ariel?) and/or easier to obtain permits, and/or easier to tie into their backbone network.
nickv123

join:2011-12-14
San Francisco, CA
I take it you've never actually walked around Bayview?

SF is an insanely expensive city, and Sunset isn't even one of the more expensive neighborhoods -- the issue is, if you're looking for prices like you'd find in Long Beach or LA, you'll be living in really really scary parts of town.

Don't get me wrong, I love fast internet... I work for a tech startup. But, even 1gbps internet would not get me down to Bayview.

moptop

@monkeybrains.net
don't worry. Monkeybrains will be doing the mission, SOMA and bayview soon enough. I hear their fiber to the home project is a bit further along that sonic's anyway.
funkadelic

join:2000-08-02
Fremont, CA
there is a reason why bayview district homes are a lot cheaper than sunset district homes. Trust me you don't want to live in the Bayview/Hunters Point district.
reward

join:2001-03-21
San Francisco, CA
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There are some nice parts of the Bayview, but not many. Don't you think there are reasons why the Bayview/Hunter's Point neighborhood is cheaper than most any other place in SF? People pay more for quieter, safer, lower-crime areas.

If you think the Sunset's very average single-family 1920s - 1940s tract homes in the $600,000 to $800,000 range are expensive, try the nicer neighborhoods of SF, which are over a million for a small single-family home. Without a view, of course.

Check out the SFPD's Bayview Station newsletter if you're interested in the area. It is published daily, and contains a synopsis of crimes in the area:

»www.sf-police.org/index.aspx?page=3323
bigboy

join:2000-12-04
Palo Alto, CA
What?

Sonic.net is not a charity. It's a business that needs to make a return on investment.

Bayview-Hunters Point is probably the last place Sonic should be spending its money.

Ridiculous.

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