 wayjacPremium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1 | reply to Mister_E
Re: [Internet] No internet after 2wire modem upgraded by Bell re said by Mister_E:Also, the internal pages have changed as well on the new firmware - the line stats page on the older firmware no longer works I can't even look up any of the sync info...at least not until a new stats page is found...  Try this page
192.168.2.1/xslt?PAGE=C_1_0 |
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C_1_0 |
»192.168.2.1/xslt?PAGE=C_4_0
»192.168.2.1/xslt?PAGE=C_5_x (x=1-6)
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Funnily enough, I found a variety of pages relating to failures:
PAGE=HURLxx (xx= 00 - 19)
eg. HURL19 appears to be for Parental Controls interestingly enough... |
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wayjacPremium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1 | said by Mister_E:I've been hunting...The closest I've found is the Tech login at a variety of pages Can you post pictures of the tech login pages
The c_0_1 page has the dsl line stats on non bell software
What was the address for the line stat page on the older firmware |
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TECHLOGIN |
I found the following AT&T info which may be for another 2Wire device (or their 2701HG) with similar pages. It provided some hints at the various pages in the firmware. Found the software upgrade page which appears to be unprotected as well as a Remote Management login page:
»pastebin.com/63VFHywV
For the old firmware, the stats page was J45.
Alot of this was covered already:
»[Internet] Line stats with new Bell firmware on 2701HG-G?
Perhaps we should move this discussion there instead of hijacking this thread..  |
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wayjacPremium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1 | I'm done thanks for the replies |
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RickStepPremium
join:2002-11-25
Hamilton, ON
kudos:1 | reply to Mister_E
I get grumpy too, maybe more than most!
"wayjac" is a great North American resource on modems used by major ISPs".
Without speaking for wayjac, I think he was simply updating his database. My 2Wire has not been updated by Bell and I am certainly interested in Bell's antics.
Bell seems to be moving to more control of their modems and also control of their routers. The R1000H router used by Bell Aliant has propriety firmware.
Rick |
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| Sorry - didn't mean to come off sounding grumpy - personally, I found the discussion to be enlightening. 
I only thought that perhaps the op wouldn't appreciate that we got sidetracked instead of focusing on the original issue.. |
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RickStepPremium
join:2002-11-25
Hamilton, ON
kudos:1
1 edit | said by Mister_E:Sorry - didn't mean to come off sounding grumpy . . . instead of focusing on the original issue.
I agree, however.
I think the responses to the original post may have run their course, but the heading will attract additional readers. Sooner or later this thread will die on its own.
The heading "Re: [Internet] No internet after 2wire modem upgraded by Bell remote" has wider issues.
I would like to see this post continue. Strange things happen and a response from another regular or new reader may shed light on this "control over the connection to the ISP".
50 years ago, a subscriber could not buy a telephone to use as extension. If "The Bell Telephone Company of Canada" now Bell Canada found out about it they would bill you from the start of the service.
There is a story from when I worked for "The Bell Telephone Company of Canada" of a person who took an unused extension from "his" company, home and when Bell found out, Bell sued him for many years (and won in the courts) for taking an extension for which he was paying $1.85 month and eventually collected an additional $1.35 a month, back to the start of his service (several decades) plus a fine.
A court case in Montreal by a company supplying office telephones, sued Bell (and won), and now the ONLY control Bell has on telephones is as a common carrier (under federal legislation), full control of the circuit and NO CONTROL OF THE DEVICES except that the devices must comply to "appropriate international standards"
Perhaps this is the thin edge of the wedge. Bell wants full control of their ISP circuits.
Maybe, sooner than later, WE (all of us who use telephone or cable circuits) will be fighting to get the authorities to declare ALL ISPs as COMMON CARRIERS. A common carrier, Bell Canada telephone, Electrical Utilities, Natural Gas suppliers, CANNOT FORCE YOU TO USE THEIR EQUIPMENT or DISCONNECT THEIR SUPPLY or CONNECTIONS only force you to use certified equipment.
Bell seems to be changing the tact SO SLOWLY, that the larger picture may be lost due to CREEP as opposed to instantaneous changes that usually trigger an uproar.
Rick |
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RTH
join:2009-07-18
Russell, ON | reply to Mister_E
Had a similar updgrade last night also. Nothing has changed. Speeds are the same. I have a Laptop and two tablets that connect with wifi, all are working as usual. If it hadn't been for this post, I probably wouldn't have noticed the upgrade for a few weeks. Everything is working as it was before the upgrade. |
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| I just had my modem upgraded as well. Unfortunately I can't find any page in the config tool to let me look at logs, so can't tell exactly when. Also can't tell if someone is trying to hack me anymore...
Anyways, net connectivity still works (wired), but LAN is messed up. I have a WD TV Live box that I used to play media from a network drive. The WD box can't connect with any network devices anymore. If I go in to config on it and change authentication settings around so I have to manually enter id/pwd for the network devices every time it works again... but the old 'auto-connect using stored credentials' capability stopped working. It worked yesterday.
When investigating why, found the new config screens for the 2Wire. |
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| I had a call yesterday that my parent's browser was asking for login credentials.
Fearing the worst I got my butt over there and found the 2wire modem had undergone a hard reset and that was where the login question was coming from.
Anyway I got it sorted out for them.
I think I should bring up the possible security issue with all of this.
When reset the modem seems to enable wireless automatically and with the default WEP encryption.
If any of you don't already know WEP is severely broken, can be cracked in a couple of minutes. So if you don't use wireless disable it. If you do use wireless change the encryption to WPA2.
This Bell botched, forced upgrade must be like Christmas for wardrivers.
Be safe lock that puppy down. |
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