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jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

[Business] Comcast's $7 Cablemodem Fee

Comcast up and started charging us an additional $7/mo. for cablemodem rental. (I hate it when companies nickel-and-dime you to death with that kind of stuff. Never mind the fact that, when I asked the Comcast rep, straight out, before signing up nearly two years ago "$XX/mo. and that's it, right? No additional taxes, surcharges, etc., right?" I was told "right.")

Anyway... here's the question: Since they're charging me $7/mo. for the modem, I guess that means they own it. If they own it, then anything and everything up to and including that modem is their problem, correct? Modem dies: They replace it, correct?

Thanks,
Jim

hhahn

join:2011-06-25
Marlton, NJ

I want to know the answer to this as well. Yes, they do own the modem ("you" have never actually owned it unless you bought one), but I'm not sure how difficult it is for you to have it replaced.

I am led to believe that if it's broken and preventing service, then they roll a guy out and they replace the modem for free within a few hours. However, unlike with residential service, if you want the modem replaced (upgrade to a newer version), then you can't go to the Comcast office and pick a new one up - you actually have to pay for a service call for them to spend 5 minutes connecting the modem.

Also, has anyone ever had any luck disputing the charge when they insist on using their own modem? Is there anything in the contract that says the customer is required to pay the equipment rental fee?



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reply to jseymour
Comcast Business Class customers generally have a fixed length contract, and the price for the service is fixed for the length of the contract. If you are still operating under the terms of a contract, and the $7/mo equipment rental fee is not part of that contract, then Comcast is violating the terms of the contract, and you should hold them accountable for doing that.

Did you manage to get business class service without a contract?

Did your contract period recently expire?
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jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

reply to jseymour
NetFixer,

IIRC, our contract was one year, and that would've been up early this year.

That's not my question. My question is: If Comcast is charging me a monthly fee for the modem, then it must be a rental. If it's a rental, are they taking full responsibility for its health and welfare, assuming "normal" use? I.e.: Unless it's damaged or destroyed due to my misuse, will they repair or replace it if it dies or is killed (say, by lightning)?

Jim



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reply to jseymour

said by jseymour:

If they own it, then anything and everything up to and including that modem is their problem, correct? Modem dies: They replace it, correct?

Thanks,
Jim

Yes they own it a while replace anything up to it (assuming YOU or anyone under your control hasn't messed with it) AS NEEDED to make it work. residential is the same, including a fee for an upgrade service call. Only real difference is business REQUIRES an on premise tech install.
I saw a post/link somewhere that explained that equipment fees are NOT covered by the contract price lock. (seems to be in the fine print on most contracts, if it's not in yours you can figure out if its worth fighting over.

mlhickey

join:2003-10-24
Pacifica, CA

Just finished talking with a rep about this while considering a move from Dish. The quesiton was: If I rent, will comcast provide hardware upgrades as newer technology and is there any charge for this, e.g. hardware, installation? Statement: You may request an upgrade at any time. If newer equipment is available it will be provided free of charge.

Granted, this is a conversation and I'd need to see this in a formal contract to feel better about it.


hhahn

join:2011-06-25
Marlton, NJ

said by mlhickey:

Just finished talking with a rep about this while considering a move from Dish. The quesiton was: If I rent, will comcast provide hardware upgrades as newer technology and is there any charge for this, e.g. hardware, installation? Statement: You may request an upgrade at any time. If newer equipment is available it will be provided free of charge.

Granted, this is a conversation and I'd need to see this in a formal contract to feel better about it.

You mention moving from Dish. Was this regarding residential service only, or business class? You seem to be contemplating renting versus purchasing (which isn't an option with business class), so either you were misinformed, or you are speaking only of residential service. You also need to ask about service charges...a modem may be a free replacement, but it may cost $50 for a technician to hook you up.

By the way, absolutely DO NOT rent the modem. It's a profit machine for Comcast. In less than 1 year, you will pay for the full cost of the best retail modem out there today. If you rent, Comcast will most likely provide you with a piece of crap, and you are limited in "choice" to what they have in stock at your local office. If you have any questions, you should make a new thread and we'll point you in the right direction regarding hardware at your level of service.


fonzbear2000
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said by hhahn:

said by mlhickey:

Just finished talking with a rep about this while considering a move from Dish. The quesiton was: If I rent, will comcast provide hardware upgrades as newer technology and is there any charge for this, e.g. hardware, installation? Statement: You may request an upgrade at any time. If newer equipment is available it will be provided free of charge.

Granted, this is a conversation and I'd need to see this in a formal contract to feel better about it.

You mention moving from Dish. Was this regarding residential service only, or business class? You seem to be contemplating renting versus purchasing (which isn't an option with business class), so either you were misinformed, or you are speaking only of residential service. You also need to ask about service charges...a modem may be a free replacement, but it may cost $50 for a technician to hook you up.

By the way, absolutely DO NOT rent the modem. It's a profit machine for Comcast. In less than 1 year, you will pay for the full cost of the best retail modem out there today. If you rent, Comcast will most likely provide you with a piece of crap, and you are limited in "choice" to what they have in stock at your local office. If you have any questions, you should make a new thread and we'll point you in the right direction regarding hardware at your level of service.

The problem with owning a modem is if it's damaged from a lightning strike, you have to go and buy a new one. Renting one from CC is sort of like paying insurance or having a warranty on it. Of course, if you keep an eye on the weather and unplug your modem when a storm moves in, then you would have nothing to worry about.
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lupus

join:2001-08-01
Bellevue, WA

You can get a Motorola 6121 at Best Buy for $100. Pays for it's self in a little over a year and will last for years to come.



nacho1337

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I still have 9 month left on my contract and they just started charging me the $7 modem rental . I call they would not waive the fee and they would not give me an answer about buying a 6121 would work on business internet. They said I had to use their SMC. Do i try buy and see if it works?


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reply to jseymour
My bill hasn't yet changed. Though it's be interesting to see them charge a rental fee as it's my SB 6120 cable modem. Maybe they could charge an alien modem device fee or some such.
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hhahn

join:2011-06-25
Marlton, NJ

reply to fonzbear2000

said by fonzbear2000:

The problem with owning a modem is if it's damaged from a lightning strike, you have to go and buy a new one. Renting one from CC is sort of like paying insurance or having a warranty on it. Of course, if you keep an eye on the weather and unplug your modem when a storm moves in, then you would have nothing to worry about.

Except it's "insurance" that you keep paying into needlessly, and get nothing out of in return. What is the probability of your modem being damaged from a lightning strike? Seriously, is a cheap cable modem really your greatest concern in a lightning strike?

A DOCSIS 3.0 modem runs about $75 to $105 new. A DOCSIS 2.0 modem runs between $25 and $45 new. You would have to get struck by lightning twice within one year every year before the "insurance" pays for itself.

If you're concerned about defects, don't forget that these modems have warranties. It's still highly unlikely you'd run into any problems, though.


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reply to fonzbear2000

said by fonzbear2000:

The problem with owning a modem is if it's damaged from a lightning strike, you have to go and buy a new one.

How often does that really happen to a person though ? I think that the odds far outweigh that happening and that the benefits are worth it.


scooby
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reply to jseymour
I was wondering why my bill was exactly $7 more this month. I should still be under contract due to the fact that according to the Comcast TOS when your contract expires, it automatically renews for one year. Also it says they will provide 30 days notice before changing pricing. I never received any kind of notification about being charged an additional $7 per month.

Not cool at all Comcast.

Relevant part of the TOS:
Upon the expiration of the Service Term, this Agreement and each applicable Service Order shall automatically renew for successive periods of one (1) year each (“Renewal Term(s)”), unless otherwise stated in these terms and conditions or prior notice of non-renewal is delivered by either Party to the other at least thirty (30) days before the expiration of the Service Term or the then current Renewal Term. Effective at any time after the end of the initial Service Term and from time to time thereafter, Comcast may, modify the charges for Internet and/or Video Services subject to thirty (30) days prior notice to Customer. Customer will have thirty (30) days from receipt of such notice to cancel the applicable Service without further liability. Should Customer fail to cancel within this timeframe, Customer will be deemed to have accepted the modified Service pricing.
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rody_44
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA

I would read that part of the tos and say you still have thirty days to cancel without pentalty. It says it can go up but they give you thirty days notice. Since they didnt give you the thirty days or at least you didnt receive it. You now have thirty days to decide if you want to continue using there service.


catnapped

join:2010-11-22
Elizabethtown, PA

reply to fonzbear2000

said by fonzbear2000:

The problem with owning a modem is if it's damaged from a lightning strike, you have to go and buy a new one. Renting one from CC is sort of like paying insurance or having a warranty on it. Of course, if you keep an eye on the weather and unplug your modem when a storm moves in, then you would have nothing to worry about.

Couldn't they claim a lightning strike is an 'act of god' and not cover it anyway?


Robotics
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said by catnapped:

said by fonzbear2000:

The problem with owning a modem is if it's damaged from a lightning strike, you have to go and buy a new one. Renting one from CC is sort of like paying insurance or having a warranty on it. Of course, if you keep an eye on the weather and unplug your modem when a storm moves in, then you would have nothing to worry about.

Couldn't they claim a lightning strike is an 'act of god' and not cover it anyway?

They probably would. That and/or a faulty surge protector. Wouldn't put it past them.
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jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

reply to jseymour
I'm not interested in canceling. I like my Comcast Business HSI. My only other choice is *blech* SBC.

I guess I'll have to call Comcast on the ticket my wife opened and ask them, since nobody here seems to know for certain.

Jim



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said by jseymour:

I'm not interested in canceling. I like my Comcast Business HSI. My only other choice is *blech* SBC.

I guess I'll have to call Comcast on the ticket my wife opened and ask them, since nobody here seems to know for certain.

Jim

No modem charge here (as of dec) - most people claim there was a notice in the previous month's bill before the charge started.
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espaeth
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reply to jseymour

said by jseymour:

Anyway... here's the question: Since they're charging me $7/mo. for the modem, I guess that means they own it. If they own it, then anything and everything up to and including that modem is their problem, correct? Modem dies: They replace it, correct?

Correct.

It's covered in the FAQ about the charge here. »business.comcast.com/eq
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