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radman

@verizon.net
reply to rev I

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

I am a 25/25 user and called in and was sent a new Rev I router with no charge. It was surprising that it was on my porch the next business day. Now can anyone tell me how to squeeze the advertised 300mbps out of the wireless N? All im getting is 130. I am getting 300 out of my belkin as an access point


John97
Over The Hills And Far Away
Premium
join:2000-11-14
Spring Hill, FL
kudos:1
You're not going to see a reported connection speed of 300 with an Actiontec.


KCrimson
Premium
join:2001-02-25
Brooklyn, NY
kudos:1
reply to radman
said by radman :

.... can anyone tell me how to squeeze the advertised 300mbps out of the wireless N?

Where did you see the router's wireless speed advertised at 300mbps? The 130 you're getting is the hardware's theoretical max.


Smith6612
Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:25
Question: What radio does the Rev. I even have in it? I could have sworn I saw someplace mentioning the Rev. I had a radio capable of 300Mbps if it was set to do so.


John97
Over The Hills And Far Away
Premium
join:2000-11-14
Spring Hill, FL
kudos:1
reply to rev I
From what I understand the Actiontec channel width is limited to 20mhz.

tnsprin

join:2003-07-23
Bradenton, FL
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to Smith6612
Yep its a claim in the datasheet »www.actiontec.com/products/datas ··· nded.pdf :

"...300 Mbps wireless, thanks to its new 802.11n wireless chipset."

Of course I am not sure I would believe it.


Smith6612
Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:25
I wouldn't believe it either. It might be possible Verizon swapped the radio out to something less or the firmware still doesn't have the right support for the higher performance on Wireless N which I would also not be surprised about.

hubrisnxs

join:2009-12-30
Fountain Valley, CA
kudos:3
when you're inside the router firmware page on the wireless b/g/n section, it shows max wireless n at 130mbs


Smith6612
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join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:25
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·Frontier Communi..
said by hubrisnxs:

when you're inside the router firmware page on the wireless b/g/n section, it shows max wireless n at 130mbs

Thanks. I'm still wondering though if it's a firmware limitation being instituted or if it's a case of the actual radio installed in the ActionTec (perhaps that Verizon chose over the claimed 300Mbps radio) that is reducing speeds.

JTS33

join:2003-05-03
USA
reply to Smith6612
said by Smith6612:

Question: What radio does the Rev. I even have in it? I could have sworn I saw someplace mentioning the Rev. I had a radio capable of 300Mbps if it was set to do so.

The Rev. F had a neutered Wireless-N capable of only 65mbps max. The Rev. G had a semi-neutered Wireless-N capable of only 144mbps. I thought Rev. I with it's 2 antennas would have MIMO and be full 300mbps Wireless-N. But it sounds like Verizon is limiting it to 20Mhz width?


Smith6612
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join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
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·Frontier Communi..
said by JTS33:

The Rev. F had a neutered Wireless-N capable of only 65mbps max. The Rev. G had a semi-neutered Wireless-N capable of only 144mbps. I thought Rev. I with it's 2 antennas would have MIMO and be full 300mbps Wireless-N. But it sounds like Verizon is limiting it to 20Mhz width?

Same. Sounds like it, in addition to a restricted Guard Interval to boot?

matthewh16

join:2010-05-21
Culver City, CA
reply to rev I
Is there a way to get the Rev I without having to buy one? Ex getting it sent out as a replacement?

cigrmaster

join:2002-01-24
Sarasota, FL

I just received this router in the mail from verizon the other day. I am paying for 35dwn/35up, once in a while I get these speeds but not that often. I use speakeasy and speedtest.net to check speeds. Is there anything I can do to guarantee my 35/35? Thanks

cigrmaster

join:2002-01-24
Sarasota, FL
I should have mentioned I am wireless.


More Fiber
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join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:32
reply to matthewh16
said by matthewh16:

Is there a way to get the Rev I without having to buy one?

Officially, no.

You won't get one asking for a replacement. Replacements are refurbished units, mostly rev. E & F.

A few have had luck scoring one from a FIOS tech in the neighborhood or by requesting a service visit. Others have not been so lucky.
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There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those who understand binary and those who don't.


More Fiber
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join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:32
reply to cigrmaster
said by cigrmaster:

Is there anything I can do to guarantee my 35/35? [wireless]

No.

You can try changing the wireless channel, but there are no guarantees with wireless.
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There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those who understand binary and those who don't.

matthewh16

join:2010-05-21
Culver City, CA
reply to More Fiber
said by More Fiber:

said by matthewh16:

Is there a way to get the Rev I without having to buy one?

Officially, no.

You won't get one asking for a replacement. Replacements are refurbished units, mostly rev. E & F.

A few have had luck scoring one from a FIOS tech in the neighborhood or by requesting a service visit. Others have not been so lucky.

Alright Thanks! My grandfather just had FiOS put in about a month ago, I'll see if he got a Rev I and is willing to swap .

Bytezboy

join:2001-05-17
New York, NY
reply to rev I
Seems that the wireless signal is worse than the other non-Verizon provided routers. Anyone else noticed this?
--
35/35 Fios, Triple Play Extreme.


rollinraver

join:2002-04-27
Buffalo, NY
Ugh, YES!!!! I just ran a test using speedtest.net and only got 21.97m down and 15.33m up. I'm sitting literally 7 feet from the router. That's on my laptop. And if I move my laptop further away, it's gone down to AT MOST 12-15m on the download and usually LESS THAN 10m on the up.

My ipad, curiously enough, will pull the full 35m download, but only roughs out around 20m upload. I have the 35/35 plan, internet only, so I'm only driving myself nuts by not replacing the damn actiontec. Oh, and my laptop only has a G wifi chip on 2.4mhz, so that MAY have something to do with me only getting ~22m download and ~15m upload.


miataman

join:2010-10-27
Chelmsford, MA
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said by rollinraver:

Ugh, YES!!!! and my laptop only has a G wifi chip on 2.4mhz, so that MAY have something to do with me only getting ~22m download and ~15m upload.

which means your router is running in compatibility mode. The IPad is a 802.11N device.
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urraca

join:2009-04-01
Toms River, NJ

1 edit
Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

I had a new 75/35 installation on July 1st and was given a Rev. G router

I feel that the Rev G. does not have the horsepower to handle all the connections per second (and overall throughput) of a large torrent download.

I have a problem maintaining the full 75 (well 85Mbit) pipe. I can barely cross the 8MB/sec download threshold, never mind get up near 10.

When I put in a beefier enterprise grade Router/Firewall (Cisco 1841 or 220), I can hit those higher speeds and maintain them. But maybe more testing is needed.

I won't even mention the joke of 15Mbit Wireless speeds.

I really don't want to lose all the capabilities of remote DVR, etc of using the Actiontec either. Has anyone else had any issues of maintaining the full performance of 75Mbit on a non-Rev I device?

serge87

join:2009-11-29
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
said by urraca:

I feel that the Rev G. does not have the horsepower to handle all the connections per second (and overall throughput) of a large torrent download.

That can't be further from the truth.

Several months ago there was a discussion on this board about how many connections the Rev. G and Rev. I Actiontecs could handle. I tested my rev. G and I was able to maintain over 200K connections at a full 150Mbps before performance became unsteady. Another user got his rev. I to do 100K(FAQ) I no longer use the rev. G since I needed something that could handle 300K+ connections(pfSense) but its hardware is easily sufficient for sub-50K connection torrents. Have you tried configuring your TCP/IP settings within your operating system?


Hello123

@myvzw.com
What's the default user name to login to the RevI

hubrisnxs

join:2009-12-30
Fountain Valley, CA
kudos:3
there should be a sticker with a user name of admin and a password that is described as a login password.


danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
password11

yeah oh so clever


KCrimson
Premium
join:2001-02-25
Brooklyn, NY
kudos:1

1 recommendation

said by danclan:

password11

yeah oh so clever

Not on recent revisions of the Actiontec. My original FiOS install at a former address had the password1 default, but my Rev F and Rev I routers defaulted to a serial number username and a password that was a strange alphanumeric mix, as indicated on the sticker information on each (and each was different).


danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA

1 edit
they will reset it to either "password11" or "1".

The convoluted gibberish password is on a sticker on the left side of the router along with the default wpa2 key and WEP Pin.

and i for one wish they removed the activity lights on the back of the router...i have activity lights on front already...

gadgetboyj

join:2009-08-25
Staten Island, NY
kudos:2
Why remove the ones on the back though?


danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
said by gadgetboyj:

Why remove the ones on the back though?

You don't ever see them typically in a home setting so they are redundant to the one's in front. These days i'm all for as few led's as possible.


Jackarino
YacCity
Premium
join:2006-12-28
Allendale, NJ
kudos:1
Most routers have them and, I don't see them going anywhere. I do however see your point