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Springbok

join:2002-09-13
Colleyville, TX
reply to Wasted_Elmo

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

said by Wasted_Elmo:

only bad thing that i didnt like is that its wireless n router modem cause it only has 2.4Ghz

I find the WIFI on the Actiontec rev I to be very stable with a strong signal. I have had a Asus RT-N66U with 5Ghz at 450 Mbs and various others and its nice to see a connection indicated at 300 or 450 Mbs, but I always seem to be having issues with connections dropping or the APs needing a re-boot. The Actiontect is just rock solid and I get the same internet speed test results whether using the Actiontec or the others.


xgman1

@verizon.net
reply to tedhersh3
So what's up with .36 and why are we not seeing it update yet?


cchhat01
Dr. Zoidberg

join:2001-05-01
Elmhurst, NY
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to rev I
Sorry but I am seeing very confusing information about whether the Rev.I support Double Bridge configuration to run my own router. Can someone clarify this for me.
Most information on the FAQ makes me believe this applies to Rev A through F.

Please help. I just had fios installed and would like to run my own router because it runs my YATE server, among other things.

Thanks.
C
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"Look at me, I'm Dr. Zoidberg, homeowner."


More Fiber
Premium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:32
Switch to a cat5 connection between the ONT and the router and put the Actiontec behind your router.
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There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those who understand binary and those who don't.


cchhat01
Dr. Zoidberg

join:2001-05-01
Elmhurst, NY
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
said by More Fiber:

Switch to a cat5 connection between the ONT and the router and put the Actiontec behind your router.

I should have noted that I am not just subscribed to FIOS Internet, it is also FIOS TV and Digital voice.
I dont care much about the voice as the line will most likely never be used, but I do care about the FIOS TV service.

Do you still recommend to switch the ONT to Ethernet from COAX? I am certainly a total newbie with all this MoCA stuff so things are a bit confusing.

C
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"Look at me, I'm Dr. Zoidberg, homeowner."


More Fiber
Premium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:32
said by cchhat01:

Do you still recommend to switch the ONT to Ethernet from COAX?

Yes. Much simpler than the dual-bridge configuration.

I recommend option 7 in the trade-offs FAQ:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations

Be aware that neither option 7 nor the double bridge (option 5) support remote access to DVR, on-screen caller id or VZ's CPE management interface.
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There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those who understand binary and those who don't.


cchhat01
Dr. Zoidberg

join:2001-05-01
Elmhurst, NY
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
said by More Fiber:

said by cchhat01:

Do you still recommend to switch the ONT to Ethernet from COAX?

Yes. Much simpler than the dual-bridge configuration.

I recommend option 7 in the trade-offs FAQ:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations

Be aware that neither option 7 nor the double bridge (option 5) support remote access to DVR, on-screen caller id or VZ's CPE management interface.

Okay but my problem is that I don't have the tools to drill holes in my house to run a CAT5 wire from the router to the ONT.
Again, I want do this as a last measure.

I'll repeat my question: Does the Rev I support Double Bridging? I am going through the router's Configs and its GUI has changed in ways from the original formats to Display things such as "Broadband Connection (Ethernet/Coax)" instead of two individual connections "Broadband Connection (Ethernet)" and "Broadband Connection (Coax)"

If I can make do without Running a CAT5 cable, I would gladly do this. I am just not sure whether to make heads or tails of the instructions as they are written and how they apply to Revision I.

I appreciate your help.

C
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"Look at me, I'm Dr. Zoidberg, homeowner."


RolteC
0h

join:2001-05-20
New York, NY
kudos:1

1 edit

1 recommendation

reply to rev I
I know this post is off topic a bit. But it has to do with the Rev I Actiontec.

A few days ago, it froze up, stopping all incoming traffic. In the morning I went into its GUI that was really slow which displayed the data. SNMP confirmed no internet as well.

After rebooting the Actiontec, my 154/69 speeds became at BEST 54 down, 66 up.

This is now the case for the last few days. Today I tested my laptop directly into the ONT and got 154 down, 69 up. Normal speeds. I switched back to the Actiontec to put my network back online and back to the same slow speeds.

I wonder what has happened to my Actiontec Rev I?!!!!!

Edit: All testing is down via cat6 cables - I have changed nothing.

TreeTops

join:2008-11-23
97742
RolteC have you tried doing a reset on the router using a straightened paper clip? Before you do this record any custom settings (this will put it back to factory settings) or backup your configuration.
How are speeds via a direct cable connection versus wireless?
If it is still slow via cat 5 or better cable contact VZ and they should send you a new unit at no charge. Best regards, J


RolteC
0h

join:2001-05-20
New York, NY
kudos:1
I saved the config file and reset the router. Full speeds!

I loaded the config file and back to sub 50Mbit on the download.

I then realized the only change other then a few port forwards that I made, was the addition of a Parental Rule to block specific things from two devices on my network.

As soon as I deleted this rule and ran a speed test, I got my full speeds again.

Anyone else see something like this before?


nycdave
Premium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
kudos:17
Known issue with parental controls....

rhdcheme

join:2006-11-18
Lorton, VA
reply to Dream Killer
Anyone know how to get this to work when FiOS does not support IPv6? Other brand routers seem to have 6to4 or 6in4 controls but Rev I does not seem to have these on firmware 36.

TreeTops

join:2008-11-23
97742
said by rhdcheme:

Anyone know how to get this to work when FiOS does not support IPv6? Other brand routers seem to have 6to4 or 6in4 controls but Rev I does not seem to have these on firmware 36.

If you are trying to connect wtih a windows PC
Here are the steps to disable IPv6; Right click on the network icon and select Open the Network and Sharing Center In the resulting window, select "Change adapter settings". In the Network Connections window, select the "Local Area Connection" for the onboard NIC (or whatever it's called), then "Change settings of this connection" or file>properties.
In the connection property page, uncheck the box for "Internet Protocol Version 6 (TCP/IPv6)". Close all the windows and reboot your system.
See if you are able to connect then.
(Quoted from »answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ··· 5c746388 )

rhdcheme

join:2006-11-18
Lorton, VA
Actually, I am able to connect with IPV6 enabled. My question, however, was whether IPV6 can be configured in the 6to4 or 6in4 mode for this router like other routers available today even if your ISP does not support IPv6.


rtcy
FACTS only please
Premium
join:1999-10-16
Norwalk, CA
reply to RolteC
said by RolteC:

I saved the config file and reset the router. Full speeds!

I loaded the config file and back to sub 50Mbit on the download.

I then realized the only change other then a few port forwards that I made, was the addition of a Parental Rule to block specific things from two devices on my network.

As soon as I deleted this rule and ran a speed test, I got my full speeds again.

Anyone else see something like this before?

leave the routerin default, and for 9.00 a year you get a account at OpneDNs.com and you can do the same and a LOT more. it blocks manny sites that are hard to do on your own, all you do is go in the router and set the DNS entries to the open dns entries, then do the same in your home computers (hopefully your kids are not smart enough to override the DNs entries in their computers ) this is one of the best home work enforcement tools in case you have bezerker kids like I do LOL (they know how and do ) but i have a way around that too


RolteC
0h

join:2001-05-20
New York, NY
kudos:1
Thanks rtcy, I actually already use OpenDNS. Unfortunately, people are setting their own DNS servers.


rtcy
FACTS only please
Premium
join:1999-10-16
Norwalk, CA

1 recommendation

said by RolteC:

Thanks rtcy, I actually already use OpenDNS. Unfortunately, people are setting their own DNS servers.

you mean on computers inside your house/network correct ? cause if you know what ip's they are using you can block them , or just make a list of open public dns servers and see if they complain. and just make sure your edge router is set under connections wan ethernet / or coax whatever you are configured for to only 208.67.220.220 and 208.67.222.222 and when their entries fail on their computers it will drop to whatever the router feeds them and they will never know it

the more server numbers you block at opendns the more control you will have here is a small list

8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4
156.154.70.1
156.154.71.1
198.153.192.1
198.153.194.1
4.2.2.1
4.2.2.2
4.2.2.3
4.2.2.4
4.2.2.5
4.2.2.6
67.138.54.100
207.225.209.66
85.88.19.10 (German Xail.net) sehr schnell!
85.88.19.11 (German Xail.net)
87.118.100.175 (German Privacy Foundation e.V.)
94.75.228.28 (German Privacy Foundation e.V.)
62.141.58.13 (German Privacy Foundation e.V.)
85.25.251.254 (German Privacy Foundation e.V.) langsam!
85.214.73.63 (FoeBuD e.V.)
212.82.225.7 (ClaraNet)
212.82.226.212 (ClaraNet)
213.73.91.35 (Chaos Computer Club Berlin)
58.6.115.42 (OpenNIC, Australien)
58.6.115.43 (OpenNIC, Australien)
119.31.230.42 (OpenNIC, Australien)
200.252.98.162 (OpenNIC, Brasilien)
217.79.186.148 (OpenNIC, Deutschland)
82.229.244.191 (OpenNIC, Frankreich)
216.87.84.211 (OpenNIC, USA)
2002:d857:54d2:2:20e:2eff:fe63:d4a9 (OpenNIC, IPv6 USA)
2001:470:1f07:38b::1 (OpenNIC, IPv6 USA)
2001:470:1f10:c6::2 (OpenNIC, IPv6 USA)
66.244.95.20 (OpenNIC, USA)
204.152.184.76 (f.6to4-servers.net, ISC)
2001:4f8:0:2::14 (f.6to4-servers.net, IPv6, ISC)
194.150.168.168 (dns.as250.net; anycast DNS!)
80.237.196.2 (Erdgeist)
194.95.202.198 (UDK Berlin)
88.198.130.211 (Dataflash)
78.46.89.147 (ValiDOM)
129.206.100.126 (URZ Uni Heidelberg)
79.99.234.56 (justnet.ch, Schweiz)
208.67.220.220 (OpenDNS)
208.67.222.222 (OpenDNS)
156.154.70.22 (Comodo Secure DNS)
156.154.71.22 (Comodo Secure DNS)
85.25.149.144 (Freie DNS-Server)
87.106.37.196 (Freie DNS-Server)
8.8.8.8 (Google Public DNS)
8.8.4.4 (Google Public DNS)
88.198.24.111 (jali/CCCHB)

you can google tons of them block em ALL

DmVeE

join:2002-03-13
Jersey City, NJ
Wondering if I can sneak this question in here as it pertains to the REV I.

I already have a Rev I router and recently got hold of another Rev I router. Figured I would do MOCA bridge and then leave the wireless on and set it up as per the instruction in this site. (love the site btw) At first I was ecstatic that the wireless signal in my basement was much stronger now.
Then we did some testing. We needed to stream a video of the basement to the upstairs via Skype and both were connected to the same SSID. After about 10-15 minutes the source computer in the basement with the camera started to stutter and eventually come to a halt. I got to thinking that it would be the wireless as that's how both are connected.
Looked around and saw that check MOCA stats and saw that the Coax Wan stats of the basement revI was around ~75. Now when I hooked it up to the Coax I did not use a splitter as I am trying to eliminate a box where this connection is.
Am I doing something wrong with the settings? Is there another area for me to check?
Should I start a new thread with this question?
TIA!!!!


More Fiber
Premium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:32
Not clear from your post, which is the secondary router (basement?). The WAN port on the secondary router must be disabled per the instructions in the FAQ. If you've done that and the WAN coax stats you're referring to are for the primary router, then you have a cabling problem.

Assuming the basement router is the secondary router, then it should show "broadband coax down". i.e. no coax WAN stats.
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DmVeE

join:2002-03-13
Jersey City, NJ
Yes, the basement is the secondary router. And I double checked and the WAN port is disabled. The stats are in the secondary router Coax Wan stats. Maybe it's just an anomaly and not a real reading as it is disabled?

Hopefully you can help me here a bit more.
I have a primary Actiontec router upstairs for G signal (2.4ghz only) and have an N router attached to it (5ghz only). They have .1 and .2 respectively as their Ip addresses. I also have a printer attached upstairs with an IP of .3. Now when I check the connections of the secondary router from the Main window it shows .2 as connected via Ethernet as well as another .2 connected via Coax. I also show from the secondary router connected via Coax a .1, .2 and .3. Is that how it should be?
Sorry, noob to this Moca bridging stuff.

claibourne

join:2011-07-04
Garland, TX
kudos:1
reply to RolteC
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said by RolteC:

Thanks rtcy, I actually already use OpenDNS. Unfortunately, people are setting their own DNS servers.

There's a quick and spiffy way to prevent them from doing exactly that. Just set up a couple rules in the "Advanced Filtering" section of the Firewall setup. First rule allows all traffic to the OpenDNS servers; the second rule blocks all DNS requests from any internal source IP, to any external destination IP. I've been doing this for two years on F, G, and I Actiontecs and haven't seen any pitfalls, performance or otherwise.


lordphong

@verizon.net
Hi all,
I'm on RevI as well but for some reason, I can't find UPnP, multicast, or IGMP options. My HDHomeRun Prime is connected to an ethernet port but none of my wireless devices can use WMC for it. It worked with the previous router but not this new RevI.

I heard people are also having this problem with xbox, tivo, and other devices as well.

claibourne

join:2011-07-04
Garland, TX
kudos:1
In the newest Rev I firmware, options to control UPnP and IGMP Proxy have been removed from the "Advanced Settings" page.

I've also noticed that firewall logging no longer works as before. Even with logging enabled for "Remote Administration" attempts, nothing shows up in the logs. You can verify this by going to good old grc.com and running their port scanner to check your router security. Even when running that tool, nothing shows up in the Actiontec's firewall log.


lordphong

@verizon.net
said by claibourne:

In the newest Rev I firmware, options to control UPnP and IGMP Proxy have been removed from the "Advanced Settings" page.

Those settings don't exist in Rev. I. They took out both the UPnP and IGMP settings in firmware 40.19.36.

kes601

join:2007-04-14
Virginia Beach, VA
kudos:2
said by lordphong :

said by claibourne:

In the newest Rev I firmware, options to control UPnP and IGMP Proxy have been removed from the "Advanced Settings" page.

Those settings don't exist in Rev. I. They took out both the UPnP and IGMP settings in firmware 40.19.36.

Then on the Rev I is there no way to disable IGMP proxy? Just wondering because when it is enabled it makes my Airport Express speakers useless.


lordphong

@verizon.net
said by kes601:

said by lordphong :

said by claibourne:

In the newest Rev I firmware, options to control UPnP and IGMP Proxy have been removed from the "Advanced Settings" page.

Those settings don't exist in Rev. I. They took out both the UPnP and IGMP settings in firmware 40.19.36.

Then on the Rev I is there no way to disable IGMP proxy? Just wondering because when it is enabled it makes my Airport Express speakers useless.

go to Advanced->Routing and uncheck the IGMP. that just disable the IGMP.

kes601

join:2007-04-14
Virginia Beach, VA
kudos:2
Now I'm confused, you just said they removed the settings from Rev I......

I don't have a Rev I right now, but if the settings are gone then I wouldn't want to upgrade.

FlareDust

join:2000-09-09
New York, NY
reply to lordphong
That is not going to work for his purposes of getting the Airport Express speakers to work. IGMP is needed for multicast as I understand, but the IGMP Proxy is blocks multicast from the Airport Express and the HDHomeRun prime (this is the problem I'm experiencing with my router at the moment).

In the latest firmware, 40.19.36, IGMP proxy settings are removed and you can no longer disable IGMP proxy. There are several people who have tried to downgrade the firmware with limited success.

Once a downgrade is completed, Fios will push the new firmware back onto the router. Blocking the port for which the firmware is pushed into the router is not allowed on the actiontec router. The only way to overcome this problem is to disable the internet/remove coax from the router.

If anyone knows of a workaround this would be great, otherwise I'm stuck with a HDHomeRun Prime that can only work over a wired network.

v12v9

join:2008-09-18

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reply to rev I
Guys - I just got the Rev I. It runs firmware 40.19.36.

I see the IPv6 option under Advanced on the router's setting page.
It's disabled.

Could someone please explain why I would want to enable it?
I also noticed that IPv6 has its own firewall setting...

Also, under Network, I don't have the option to Rename the device on most of the devices on my network. Why not?

Thank you in advance.

v12v9

join:2008-09-18
Well, in response to the question about IPv6: here is a post on Verizon FiOS's page.

Verizon FiOS is supposed to be making IPv6 avail. 3rd quarter of 2012 for customers with a dynamic IP address first...

Is anyone seeing/ using it?