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Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I Not sure that's correct; perhaps it changed with a later firmware rev? To verify the "firewall dump -ps" output, I ran the same test smallnetbuilder uses on an E and an F; got close to 32k on both.
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 More FiberPremium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:28 | reply to claibourne
said by claibourne:Thanks, birdy. As Fiosman said, same as the F (and the E as well).
The rev. E was reported as 13,000.
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Thanks, birdy. As Fiosman said, same as the F (and the E as well). |
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 JackarinoPremium
join:2006-12-28
Allendale, NJ
kudos:1 | reply to rev I
Thats the same as the Rev F |
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This is the first line reported after using the command,
firewall dump -ps
Active Connections 72/0, quota 30000/-1.
So NAT table is 30,000? |
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 KCrimsonPremium
join:2001-02-25
Brooklyn, NY
kudos:1
 ·Verizon FiOS
2 edits | reply to birdy
said by birdy :That 2nd antenna isn't just sitting there to look pretty. The rev I is most likely a dual band N router. The big question is whether its single or dual radio. If single, then only one frequency available (2.4 or 5GHz). If dual radio then 2 SSID's available with one being 2.4GHz channel and other being 5GHz channel.
I don't think your explanation between dual and single radio is technically accurate. I have a Netgear WNDR3300, which is of the single radio variety. It offers separate and simultaneous SSID's on each frequency (2.5 and 5 Ghz), but limits N to EITHER of the two..
ie - You can run B/G on 2.4 Ghz with SSID "Network_X", while also running N on 5 Ghz with SSID "Network_Y", but you can't run N on both of those networks simultaneously - its either/or only in the case of Wireless N. Depending upon the devices you're connecting (capable of 5 Ghz?) and the network topology (most importantly distance and interference), many including myself would be just fine with single radio technology. I get 40 mhz (wide) 5Ghz 270 mbps connections while also supporting my older B/G devices on 2.4 Ghz.
Edit - What's also nice about using a single radio dual band N (which tend to be the cheaper of the dual band N's) - is that when combined with the Rev F Actiontec router, you can also get slightly quicker 2.4 Ghz connections through the Actiontec's own draft-N ability (on its own SSID - with a connection rate of ~65 mbps. Now you're running 3 separate wireless networks, with the only limitation being the speed of the wireless N channel on the 2.4 Ghz band. |
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Has anyone checked the size of the NAT table in the Rev I?
If you have a Rev I, much appreciated if you'll do this (assuming the interface is the same as the other FiOS routers), and post a followup with the result:
1) Go to "Local Administration" under "Advanced Settings"
2) Enable telnet
3) telnet to the router, login with "admin" and the router's password
4) At the router prompt, enter "firewall dump -ps"
5) Maximum number of connections will be the second or so line of the output; you may have to scroll back to see it.
Thanks! |
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 Zero
join:2009-07-01
Collegeville, PA | reply to More Fiber
802.11n single stream data rates |
said by More Fiber:The rev. F is draft 802.11n only.
Saying that it's draft doesn't accurate explain why it's limited to only 65 mbps. A 802.11n router can be draft and get up to 270 or 300 mbps too. As you can see from the table above, the real reason the Rev F is limited to 65 mbps is because it only has a single stream radio and is limited to only use a 20 MHz channel. This is why it still only has a single antenna. The wikipedia page on 802.11n has the full chart where you can see the Rev G and Rev I have 2 spatial streams but are still limited to the same 20 MHz channel of bandwidth resulting in 130 mbps. With 2 streams a second antenna was added to the design. The GI of 800ns is standard in 802.11 - 400ns is optionally used by vendors for increased data rates. » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.11n#Data_rates» en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard_inte···Interval |
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Unfortunately for you Fiosman it's router lottery. I played that game, they sent 3 replacements (overnight, very quick) but they were Rev. E's. The technician had Rev 1 on the truck so again I got lucky. |
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JackarinoPremium
join:2006-12-28
Allendale, NJ
kudos:1 | reply to rev I
My Rev.F just died at one of my homes. Ordered one through Tech support, and they assured me it would be a rev I. I heard that song before. let's see what I get. |
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 SRF26
join:2000-04-03
Jamaica, NY | reply to More Fiber
said by More Fiber:The rev. F is draft 802.11n only.
Thanks for the info.
Happy New Year....JL |
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While TWC may not ask you exactly why you brought equipment back to their retail store for an exchange they know that most customers either have a real serious problem with the equipment or they want some sort of feature upgrade.
There is no dispute that there is significant cost involved in screening and refurbishing returns. Why do companies take this on? Maybe to generate customer satisfaction. Who ultimately pays for this? The customer does in the form of monthly bills.
I don't think that any company just hands back out returned equipment without any sort of testing. Doing so would cause more problems. At least some minimal QA is done. Sometimes the equipment is returned to the supplier or manufacturer for refurbishing.
Fortunately for me I have gotten back only working new (looking?) equipment (new box, manual, CD, cables, matching serial number and mac address stickers on box & equipment) for the ones I have returned.
I was a TWC customer for a long time and these returns were spaced out and far between. |
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said by MrKal_El:said by foolmeonce :I received this router (I) last night with my upgrade to the triple play. Shipped firmware 40.19.22
I am in upper Westchester County, NY.
Is there a user guide available for this router? Could not find anything via Google.
So you are saying this was the standard Router given to you w/out the 150Mb plan? That is correct! My triple play includes the 15/5 internet. |
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More FiberPremium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:28 | reply to SRF26
The rev. F is draft 802.11n only. |
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SRF26
join:2000-04-03
Jamaica, NY | reply to Fireguyy
Hi. I just became a FiOS Triple Play subscriber and per the information from the router interface/set up, I have the following router:
Actiontec MI424WR-GEN2
Firmware: 20.19.8
Hardware Version: F
I currently have the WiFi radio disabled because I am using a D-Link Extreme N router for my wireless services. I did notice something when going through the Actiontec set up. Under the Wireless Settings, the Wireless Mode indicates "Compatibility Mode (802.11b/g/n)." Does this mean the router can support 802.11n devices? I thought Verizon didn't have any "N" capable routers.
TIA...JL |
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said by sdofi :So if the only difference between these two companies is that one allows Internet equipment exchanges and the other company does not then one company is providing less customer service and is therefore being less competitive.
If there is a problem with your router, Verizon will gladly send you out another with 1 or next day delivery. If there is no problem with it, and your service is working just as good as it was when you agreed to the TOS, why should the company just willing exchange it for you?
It cost's the company a great deal of money to take in a router, screen, clean, and place it back into circulation just so that you can have a new one. This is why you can purchase a new router if it's a requirement for you to have the newest version immediately.
I'm not sure how TWC handles their returned equipment, maybe they just toss it back into the pile to hand out to the next customer that comes along so that they don't take on any cost. |
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In my past dealings with TWC they pretty much exchanged your cable modem no questioned asked. All you had to do was walk into their retail store with the cable modem and they will swap it for you. The same with STBs and remotes.
Both TWC and VZ charge a monthly fee (bundled or unbundled) for the TV service and a seperate rental fee for the STB.
Similarly both TWC and VZ charge a monthly fee for the Internet service with no seperate fee for the equipment.
It seems, from what has been posted so far, that VZ doesn't allow exchanges of the FiOS router at their retail stores.
So if the only difference between these two companies is that one allows Internet equipment exchanges and the other company does not then one company is providing less customer service and is therefore being less competitive. |
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said by Sdofi :Being a former TWC customer I kind of expect that retail stores do exchanges for things other than STBs. I had the pleasure of returning their cable modems more than once.
But TWC definitely treated cable modems as monthly rentals like their STBs.
Verizon would be providing less competitive customer service if it did not allow their customers to exchange their routers - we pay them a small fortune every month.
But you don't pay a monthly charge for your router, so how would this be less competitive? |
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said by Sdofi :The Verizon stores sells and accepts returns for DSL products as well.
While this does not necessarily mean that they can do exchanges for DSL products.
If rev I is the new general release FiOS router then I think alot of us are very interested in upgrading to the gigabit switching and newer wireless N features. Especially if it is free.
So can anybody confirm (or deny) doing a FiOS router exchange at a Verizon store?
The supply is limited so it's only being given out on new installs. If you can't wait and want it now you can call to purchase one. They cannot be exchanged at the Verizon store, any dropships will be replaced with a like for like until lack of inventory requires replacement with the rev. I |
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