MisterBillVerizon FiOS
join:2002-06-05
Yorktown Heights, NY | reply to rev I
Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I I just received one of these to replace my older rev E single antenna router. Have not installed it yet but I did plug it in and the wireless signal I'm seeing from a machine in the basement is one bar lower than the rev E. Is this normal? Will the fact that it's N instead of G make up for it, or won't I be able to get the better throughput with the poorer quality signal. |
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MisterBillVerizon FiOS
join:2002-06-05
Yorktown Heights, NY | reply to ChrisUK
said by ChrisUK:I was therefore somewhat surprised when a Verizon van pulled into my driveway at 6:00pm and a technician bought a new router to my door. It was a Rev I. He had installed it and left 10 minutes later. Woo hoo!
Update: I just received an automated phone message saying that my new router has been shipped by UPS, so I'll probably end up with 2! Did the Verizon guy take the old one back with him? The one you receive via UPS will have a return label for you to send the old router back.
I guess this happened a month ago, so what did happen? |
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ChrisUK
join:2008-08-28
Falls Church, VA | The Verizon guy took the Rev C away. The one I received via UPS included a note saying it was not necessary to return the old router.
Chris |
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MisterBillVerizon FiOS
join:2002-06-05
Yorktown Heights, NY
1 edit | Interesting, I just got a Rev I today and have to send the old one back.
BTW I just checked my firmware and there was an update. Why would Verizon send out a router that did not have the most current firmware on it? It's not like it just came out last week (or month)!
Sadly, it has not fixed my slow upload problem. |
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MisterBillVerizon FiOS
join:2002-06-05
Yorktown Heights, NY | reply to rev I
Different question - why wouldn't machines with 802.11n adapters connect at 802.11n? All of my adapters don't have to be 802.11n, do they? |
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 Smith6612Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:22
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| said by MisterBill:Different question - why wouldn't machines with 802.11n adapters connect at 802.11n? All of my adapters don't have to be 802.11n, do they?
For a few main factors.
1: Any security that is not WPA2 or None
2: Driver for the Wi-Fi card is set to disable Wireless N
3: Access Point is not set up to allow the 802.11n standard to be used
4: Some nasty protocol-related issues occurring causing the speed to drop back. |
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| None of that prevents broadcasting at 40Mhz so N devices can connect at 300, does it?
The device itself fully supports it, it says so right on Actiontecs product page, so it seems like an artificial limitation Verizon puts on thier branded version. |
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Smith6612Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:22 Reviews:
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| None of that does, correct. It's either a software limiting issue, or a hardware limiting issue. Many have been saying it's a hardware related issue, but info I've been seeing around states otherwise. Who knows though, until Verizon pushes a firmware upgrade out that allows the use of 40Mhz channels. Likely not until they start offering 5Ghz models. |
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s80t699
join:2002-10-23
South Hamilton, MA | Sorry if this is already covered but I went back to at least page 27 on this thread looking for this info. I have an old rev C, Actiontec and want to get the N support and GigE features of the rev I. I called my local Fios retail store and they said it would cost me $80 to get that model. I'm a realist but since I spend over $260 a month with a quad play contract with VZ, I figured this should be a swap out. Is this not the case or is everybody who is an existing customer paying for these units? |
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dpridgenPremium
join:2004-01-14
Port Washington, NY
kudos:1 | I didn't have to pay, all I had to do was upgrade to 75/35 and they shipped me a new router. I had a rev E before which was a swap for an earlier rev which required frequent reboots because it would stop accepting connections (and drop existing connections). Upgrading to 75/35 turned out being cheaper than my month to month contract of 20/5, of course I had to give up Freedom Essentials and go Digital Voice. |
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 Teasip
join:2001-05-14
Plano, TX | reply to rev I
I walked into a store, asked, and they handed me one that a person had just brought in that was a new duplicate router for free. |
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said by s80t699:Sorry if this is already covered but I went back to at least page 27 on this thread looking for this info. I have an old rev C, Actiontec and want to get the N support and GigE features of the rev I. I called my local Fios retail store and they said it would cost me $80 to get that model. I'm a realist but since I spend over $260 a month with a quad play contract with VZ, I figured this should be a swap out. Is this not the case or is everybody who is an existing customer paying for these units?
Depends on your internet speed, I recently called and told them I needed the dual band model because of performance degradation on N devices when b/g users are on the same network. If your speed is not higher than 30/30 It won't make any difference whether you have the Rev I. Also note that the rev I antennas are only 2dBi the old model has 7dBi. |
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I recently upgraded to 75/25 and would like to upgrade to this router. For anyone who has gotten one of these routers from a store did you have to bring your old router in or can you pick up the new one and do the swap and mail the old one back? |
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Teasip
join:2001-05-14
Plano, TX | They asked for an old router in return for just handing me the I. I went home and brought back the original D-Link that I was given when service was installed years ago. |
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| I recently upgraded from 25/25 to 50/25 (Speedtest.net reports 58.47/39.11 on a wired connection) and my original router was the Rev. F of the MI424WR (Gen 2, I believe?). Verizon was kind enough to authorize a replacement swap of my router after I had convinced them (truthfully, BTW) that all my wireless devices were all N devices and all my wired devices had gigabit connections, so they sent me a MI424WR-GEN3I.
The router came with FW: 40.20.1.
I noticed the (two) antenna on the rev. I is shorter than the single antenna that was on my rev. I router. Since the router is in the basement (I'm using coax) in a three level house, I can't really relocate it due to cabling issues but if I'm in the middle level of the house, I'm getting fairly ~117 Mbps (Win7). |
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said by Teasip:They asked for an old router in return for just handing me the I. I went home and brought back the original D-Link that I was given when service was installed years ago.
Thanks for the info.
I brought my old router with me and I made the exchange. No problems getting it going.....now my N devices will be put to better use and I noticed the increase in speed right away.
Here's what I have a beef with......I had to pay the $79.99 charge and if this was a charge that applied to everybody then that's fine. But you read here that some people had to pay and some didn't (not taking issue with those who didn't pay....good for you). Then while I'm in the store and their charging my card some guy walks in with a DVR under his arm and notices the new router I was getting that they had unboxed to show to me. He leans over my shoulder and says, "I just got FIOS 6 weeks ago and that router is awesome. Much better than the old Netgear one I had with my old service." I'm handed the charge paperwork to sign and afterwards the guy asks why I'm paying for it. I told him what I was told by the staff in the store.....it's an upgrade that comes with a one-time fee. He tells me that he got it for free with his install. I tell him he better check his bill and he says, "nope, the install guy said that Verizon was charging for these sometimes but I got it no charge. Even told me to make sure on my bill that there wasn't a charge and if so then just to call Verizon and tell them I was a new install and they'd take it off."
I have no problem with paying for special equipment. But Verizon is apparently applying this selectively......new install customer gets it free, guy who has had Verizon for years has to dig into his wallet. I pay 240.00 a month to this company and the new guy gets a pass - why? There is no provision that states that this router is free for new customers. I asked the employee at the Verizon store (the guy eventually walked over to another counter) and he said that the guy should have been charged. |
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| Hey all,
Currently running the Actiontec Rev F. My Wireless Speedtest tops out at 20/25. I am signed up for 50/25 right now.
Once I connect my computer to ethernet, I am able to easily top 50/25. Verizon is sending me a "Gen 3" router. I asked if that meant I'm getting a Rev I? The rep said yes.
Can I assume that I'm getting the rev I? Also... with that revision, would I be able to get the top speed?
Thanks! |
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