Topic 'Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I' in forum 'Verizon Fiber Optics' - dslreports.com

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 09 Apr 2013 09:36:49 EDT

RolteC posted : Even with the Revision F you have, 50/25 is attainable. Faster wifi speeds are only seen on Rev G/I though. But as most people already said, a dedicated wireless access point(even if its a router) will provide much better wireless results then any Actiontec available.

I myself went a step further just the other day. I use an old Cisco 1252N access point with an old IOS that supports channel bonding, so I see around 80-110Mbit/sec wireless. I connected my Actiontec's WAN to my LAN and made my server a router using pfSense. Speeds are much smoother and so it latency. So far, testing proved that it supports almost unlimited NAT translations, a minimum a gigabit or two of WAN to LAN speed and 64-byte packets/sec of almost no limit depending on the CPU used, unlike any other available router that does a fraction of those results at best.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Sun, 07 Apr 2013 15:03:55 EDT

kl323 posted : Hey all,

Currently running the Actiontec Rev F. My Wireless Speedtest tops out at 20/25. I am signed up for 50/25 right now.

Once I connect my computer to ethernet, I am able to easily top 50/25. Verizon is sending me a "Gen 3" router. I asked if that meant I'm getting a Rev I? The rep said yes.

Can I assume that I'm getting the rev I? Also... with that revision, would I be able to get the top speed?

Thanks!

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Fri, 05 Apr 2013 23:16:51 EDT

bushleaguer posted :

said by Teasip:

They asked for an old router in return for just handing me the I. I went home and brought back the original D-Link that I was given when service was installed years ago.

Thanks for the info.
I brought my old router with me and I made the exchange. No problems getting it going.....now my N devices will be put to better use and I noticed the increase in speed right away.

Here's what I have a beef with......I had to pay the $79.99 charge and if this was a charge that applied to everybody then that's fine. But you read here that some people had to pay and some didn't (not taking issue with those who didn't pay....good for you). Then while I'm in the store and their charging my card some guy walks in with a DVR under his arm and notices the new router I was getting that they had unboxed to show to me. He leans over my shoulder and says, "I just got FIOS 6 weeks ago and that router is awesome. Much better than the old Netgear one I had with my old service." I'm handed the charge paperwork to sign and afterwards the guy asks why I'm paying for it. I told him what I was told by the staff in the store.....it's an upgrade that comes with a one-time fee. He tells me that he got it for free with his install. I tell him he better check his bill and he says, "nope, the install guy said that Verizon was charging for these sometimes but I got it no charge. Even told me to make sure on my bill that there wasn't a charge and if so then just to call Verizon and tell them I was a new install and they'd take it off."

I have no problem with paying for special equipment. But Verizon is apparently applying this selectively......new install customer gets it free, guy who has had Verizon for years has to dig into his wallet. I pay 240.00 a month to this company and the new guy gets a pass - why? There is no provision that states that this router is free for new customers. I asked the employee at the Verizon store (the guy eventually walked over to another counter) and he said that the guy should have been charged.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:02:05 EDT

anon posted : I recently upgraded from 25/25 to 50/25 (Speedtest.net reports 58.47/39.11 on a wired connection) and my original router was the Rev. F of the MI424WR (Gen 2, I believe?). Verizon was kind enough to authorize a replacement swap of my router after I had convinced them (truthfully, BTW) that all my wireless devices were all N devices and all my wired devices had gigabit connections, so they sent me a MI424WR-GEN3I.

The router came with FW: 40.20.1.

I noticed the (two) antenna on the rev. I is shorter than the single antenna that was on my rev. I router. Since the router is in the basement (I'm using coax) in a three level house, I can't really relocate it due to cabling issues but if I'm in the middle level of the house, I'm getting fairly ~117 Mbps (Win7).

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:03:01 EDT

Teasip posted : They asked for an old router in return for just handing me the I. I went home and brought back the original D-Link that I was given when service was installed years ago.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:15:14 EDT

bushleaguer posted : I recently upgraded to 75/25 and would like to upgrade to this router. For anyone who has gotten one of these routers from a store did you have to bring your old router in or can you pick up the new one and do the swap and mail the old one back?

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:57:20 EDT

anon posted :

said by s80t699:

Sorry if this is already covered but I went back to at least page 27 on this thread looking for this info. I have an old rev C, Actiontec and want to get the N support and GigE features of the rev I. I called my local Fios retail store and they said it would cost me $80 to get that model. I'm a realist but since I spend over $260 a month with a quad play contract with VZ, I figured this should be a swap out. Is this not the case or is everybody who is an existing customer paying for these units?

Depends on your internet speed, I recently called and told them I needed the dual band model because of performance degradation on N devices when b/g users are on the same network. If your speed is not higher than 30/30 It won't make any difference whether you have the Rev I. Also note that the rev I antennas are only 2dBi the old model has 7dBi.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Thu, 28 Mar 2013 22:01:15 EDT

Teasip posted : I walked into a store, asked, and they handed me one that a person had just brought in that was a new duplicate router for free.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:17:08 EDT

dpridgen posted : I didn't have to pay, all I had to do was upgrade to 75/35 and they shipped me a new router. I had a rev E before which was a swap for an earlier rev which required frequent reboots because it would stop accepting connections (and drop existing connections). Upgrading to 75/35 turned out being cheaper than my month to month contract of 20/5, of course I had to give up Freedom Essentials and go Digital Voice.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:14:58 EDT

s80t699 posted : Sorry if this is already covered but I went back to at least page 27 on this thread looking for this info. I have an old rev C, Actiontec and want to get the N support and GigE features of the rev I. I called my local Fios retail store and they said it would cost me $80 to get that model. I'm a realist but since I spend over $260 a month with a quad play contract with VZ, I figured this should be a swap out. Is this not the case or is everybody who is an existing customer paying for these units?

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:28:55 EDT

Smith6612 posted : None of that does, correct. It's either a software limiting issue, or a hardware limiting issue. Many have been saying it's a hardware related issue, but info I've been seeing around states otherwise. Who knows though, until Verizon pushes a firmware upgrade out that allows the use of 40Mhz channels. Likely not until they start offering 5Ghz models.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:53:51 EDT

emkorial posted : None of that prevents broadcasting at 40Mhz so N devices can connect at 300, does it?

The device itself fully supports it, it says so right on Actiontecs product page, so it seems like an artificial limitation Verizon puts on thier branded version.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Fri, 22 Mar 2013 23:55:40 EDT

Smith6612 posted :

said by MisterBill:

Different question - why wouldn't machines with 802.11n adapters connect at 802.11n? All of my adapters don't have to be 802.11n, do they?

For a few main factors.

1: Any security that is not WPA2 or None
2: Driver for the Wi-Fi card is set to disable Wireless N
3: Access Point is not set up to allow the 802.11n standard to be used
4: Some nasty protocol-related issues occurring causing the speed to drop back.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Fri, 22 Mar 2013 23:51:35 EDT

MisterBill posted : Different question - why wouldn't machines with 802.11n adapters connect at 802.11n? All of my adapters don't have to be 802.11n, do they?

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Fri, 22 Mar 2013 22:39:50 EDT

MisterBill posted : Interesting, I just got a Rev I today and have to send the old one back.

BTW I just checked my firmware and there was an update. Why would Verizon send out a router that did not have the most current firmware on it? It's not like it just came out last week (or month)!

Sadly, it has not fixed my slow upload problem.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Fri, 22 Mar 2013 22:18:33 EDT

ChrisUK posted : The Verizon guy took the Rev C away. The one I received via UPS included a note saying it was not necessary to return the old router.

Chris

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Fri, 22 Mar 2013 21:59:18 EDT

MisterBill posted :

said by ChrisUK:

I was therefore somewhat surprised when a Verizon van pulled into my driveway at 6:00pm and a technician bought a new router to my door. It was a Rev I. He had installed it and left 10 minutes later. Woo hoo!

Update: I just received an automated phone message saying that my new router has been shipped by UPS, so I'll probably end up with 2!

Did the Verizon guy take the old one back with him? The one you receive via UPS will have a return label for you to send the old router back.

I guess this happened a month ago, so what did happen?

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:49:56 EDT

MisterBill posted : I just received one of these to replace my older rev E single antenna router. Have not installed it yet but I did plug it in and the wireless signal I'm seeing from a machine in the basement is one bar lower than the rev E. Is this normal? Will the fact that it's N instead of G make up for it, or won't I be able to get the better throughput with the poorer quality signal.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:15:43 EDT

ChrisUK posted : I called Fios Technical Support at about 1:00pm to ask for a Rev I to replace my Rev C. He initially wanted me to go to my nearest Fios store, but eventually agreed to ship a new router via UPS on the understanding that there was no guarantee it would be a Rev I.

I was therefore somewhat surprised when a Verizon van pulled into my driveway at 6:00pm and a technician bought a new router to my door. It was a Rev I. He had installed it and left 10 minutes later. Woo hoo!

Update: I just received an automated phone message saying that my new router has been shipped by UPS, so I'll probably end up with 2!

Chris

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:49:49 EDT

xgman posted : When is this update supposed to happen?

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:56:27 EDT

CooloutAC posted : U da man tks :)

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:33:27 EDT

rtcy posted :

said by kes601:

Since it says it was connected via Ethernet, I'm going to have to guess it was the DIR-655 that was the weak link. Shouldn't show up as an ethernet connection if it was connecting via the Actiontec's wireless.

I think so too, just wish I was 100%. eitherway I set them all up as wpa2 AES and changed the key to one of GRC's random key and saved that on my keychain usb stick

will keep monitoring.

the thing that confused me a bit was my older son was here visiting in early jan, but the new router was just replaced after he left. he uses a Blackberry. but I'm sure he had departed 1 week earlier.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:04:27 EDT

kes601 posted : Since it says it was connected via Ethernet, I'm going to have to guess it was the DIR-655 that was the weak link. Shouldn't show up as an ethernet connection if it was connecting via the Actiontec's wireless.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:42:51 EDT

rtcy posted : Looks like it was my resseting the router to factory default somehow?? turned off the UPNP cause it had been working anyways thanks to you KES601 and showing us that hidden page I turned it back on as it was indeed off, and that little rascal MagicJack PLUS is back working.

it grabbed a DHCP address and I looked up the MAC address at the FCC and sure enough it was issued to Magickjack.

now for the serious security part******************

yesterday as I reset the router back to factory settings, I entered everything EXCEPT the static WPA key, so it defaulted to that new standard ??? used by the rev I router where it has a key built in for WPA.

anyways I noticed under my network someone with a

BLACKBERRY-7144:
Connection Type:
Ethernet

IP Address: 192.168.1.2
IP Address Allocation: DHCP
MAC Address: 3c:74:37:47:a9:cc

connected to my wireless router I bet this is that new feature I read about where it auto negotiates?? and was already hacked ??

anyways I reset the router to WPA2 and put in my 33 long phrase with added numbers

just to sure I update my youngest son's DIR-655 to 1.35na firmware to disable the securespot and set it to WPA2 with new password

sure hope they only used my IP for a good use!!!!!

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:38:53 EDT

rtcy posted :

said by kes601:

you would'nt know if there's a hidden page for UPNP in the REV I ? I thought it was on or so I assumed() but can't find it anywhere.

»192.168.1.1/index.cgi?active_page=900

thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!! now to reboot it and see if I can get the Magic Jack Plus working in stand alone mode again

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:26:04 EDT

kes601 posted :

you would'nt know if there's a hidden page for UPNP in the REV I ? I thought it was on or so I assumed() but can't find it anywhere.

»192.168.1.1/index.cgi?active_page=900

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:15:54 EDT

rtcy posted :

said by JohnJohnD:

Confirming that the deep link ("jump") works! Just in case that Verizon thread disappears, here's the deep link to the now-hidden IGMP Proxy page on the Rev I router:

»192.168.1.1/index.cgi?active_page=6059

you would'nt know if there's a hidden page for UPNP in the REV I ? I thought it was on or so I assumed() but can't find it anywhere.

I did "something" to my MJ+ and now it no longer works in stand alone mode cursed. I get what I pay for. Wonder if that is a new Verizon weapon LOL.

I know I can bypass by setting a UDP rule for VOIP, guess I will call them and see if they release specs. no one seems to know what they are for the MJ+ model

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:15:01 EDT

Klownicle posted : Thanks for the info, both UPnP and the IGMP Proxy are features I want to disable on my network.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Mon, 31 Dec 2012 22:42:10 EDT

rtcy posted :

said by Acejam2k:

said by bigdaddy:

Verizon is going to be releasing another new firmware update to replace this one. I have no ETA but I was told that UPnP menu and IGMP Proxy menu will be restored and Wi-Fi will be upgraded from 130Mbps to 300Mbps at 40Mhz channel space.

So Hold on Help is on the way. :)

Do you have anymore details on the 300Mbps/40Mhz upgrade? This would be very helpful for me since my Rev I unit is the only router I have in my home. I do a lot of local LAN file transfers over Wi-Fi, and being limited to 130Mbps really hurts sometimes. :(

Since I do not have access to a rev.i , I can not tell you what radio chipset and model it is or whether it will support the full range, so a firmware may not be all that is needed. I have swapped it on the rev A and the C models to accomodate third party firmware like Open WRT and DD-WRT.

I don't know if you have the cash to pick up this router and set it up as the second router to provide wireless in your place

»www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless···reviewed

but this Asus is the fastest in many tests done so far not only wireless but for the gigabit lan too

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:12:59 EDT

Acejam2k posted :

said by bigdaddy:

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:47:01 EDT

JohnJohnD posted : Confirming that the deep link ("jump") works! Just in case that Verizon thread disappears, here's the deep link to the now-hidden IGMP Proxy page on the Rev I router:

»192.168.1.1/index.cgi?active_page=6059

Re: IGMP Proxy Is Now Restored Again !

Wed, 26 Dec 2012 03:43:27 EDT

tnsprin posted : In a few threads at forums.verizon.com. e.g. »forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-Inter···1#M33909

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:09:50 EDT

rtcy posted :

said by bigdaddy:

I can Confirm that UPnP is Enabled by Default. Sorry there is no hidden menu I could find to enable or disable UPnP we will just have to wait for the new firmware to be released.

good cause eventhough it's said tobebad, UPNP can make life easy when you have grandkids coming over and wanting to use their devices, I just hand them the wpa password and let those little fingers do the work. sure love that 6 tuner silicon box. going to get a couple of the new Ceton extenders and send back 2 hd boxes and turn off the home thingi on the DVR , still bothered by what I was told by their phone rep that I would have to return the DVR and get another to turn off the homedvr feature, something they turned on remotely. oh well that's OT

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:29:17 EDT

bigdaddy posted :

said by rtcy:

said by lordphong :

said by claibourne:

In the newest Rev I firmware, options to control UPnP and IGMP Proxy have been removed from the "Advanced Settings" page.

Those settings don't exist in Rev. I. They took out both the UPnP and IGMP settings in firmware 40.19.36.

as I have the silicondust units too, this makes the I useless for me, and I was thinking of getting a couple and sending them to Brainslayer again. oh well

Can someone confirm if the uPNP is disabled? is this verizon's way to kill devices like the Silicon dust boxes? I'm sure we can still do them manually if so

I can Confirm that UPnP is Enabled by Default. Sorry there is no hidden menu I could find to enable or disable UPnP we will just have to wait for the new firmware to be released.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:22:08 EDT

bigdaddy posted :

said by rtcy:

said by lordphong :

said by claibourne:

In the newest Rev I firmware, options to control UPnP and IGMP Proxy have been removed from the "Advanced Settings" page.

Those settings don't exist in Rev. I. They took out both the UPnP and IGMP settings in firmware 40.19.36.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:48:21 EDT

rtcy posted :

said by lordphong :

said by claibourne:

In the newest Rev I firmware, options to control UPnP and IGMP Proxy have been removed from the "Advanced Settings" page.

Those settings don't exist in Rev. I. They took out both the UPnP and IGMP settings in firmware 40.19.36.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:46:00 EDT

rtcy posted :

said by claibourne:

said by RolteC:

Thanks rtcy, I actually already use OpenDNS. Unfortunately, people are setting their own DNS servers.

There's a quick and spiffy way to prevent them from doing exactly that. Just set up a couple rules in the "Advanced Filtering" section of the Firewall setup. First rule allows all traffic to the OpenDNS servers; the second rule blocks all DNS requests from any internal source IP, to any external destination IP. I've been doing this for two years on F, G, and I Actiontecs and haven't seen any pitfalls, performance or otherwise.

Very clean, merry Christmas and I'm defenetly showing my age and mind ;) I think I tried something like this and failed. I miss my gnatbox firewall that thing let you made rules that always worked without fail. but I have 4 kids 3 of them computer savvy and then some and find a way around the old man.

Re: IGMP Proxy Is Now Restored Again !

Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:43:39 EDT

FlareDust posted : Thank you, you are definitely the BIGDADDY!!!

Re: IGMP Proxy Is Now Restored Again !

Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:48:52 EDT

bigdaddy posted :

said by tnsprin:

Hmm. Can't find a way to that page EXCEPT for the jump you mentioned. Does it actually work? ~~Or is it an old page with no code behind it.~~

Apparently it works Posted it over on Verizon's board mentioned give kudos to Bigdaddy.

Where did you post it ?

Re: IGMP Proxy Is Now Restored Again !

Tue, 25 Dec 2012 05:14:51 EDT

tnsprin posted : Hmm. Can't find a way to that page EXCEPT for the jump you mentioned. Does it actually work? ~~Or is it an old page with no code behind it.~~

Apparently it works Posted it over on Verizon's board mentioned give kudos to Bigdaddy.

IGMP Proxy Is Now Restored Again !

Tue, 25 Dec 2012 00:49:29 EDT

bigdaddy posted : Merry Christmas Everyone !

Here is a Christmas Gift for All you Actiontec Rev I and Rev G Owner's.

Use the Following »192.168.1.1/index.cgi?active_page=6059. It restores the IGMP Proxy menu in the Actiontec Rev I and Rev G Routers.

Again Merry Christmas to All and Enjoy ! :)

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Tue, 25 Dec 2012 00:32:23 EDT

bigdaddy posted : Yes it does Exist. I have had the new Firmware installed as of 2-3 Week's a go. :)

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Mon, 24 Dec 2012 22:22:47 EDT

FlareDust posted :

said by bigdaddy:

You mean this page ?

Yes, I don't believe that page exist anymore in firmware version 40.19.36.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:01:16 EDT

LLStarks posted : Rep told me the other day during an ONT reset that IPv6 deployment for residential customers will start in January.
--
I know before you even speak that you're wrong.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Mon, 24 Dec 2012 01:19:45 EDT

bigdaddy posted : You mean this page ?

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Sun, 23 Dec 2012 23:15:09 EDT

anon posted : You are correct. I did not say you can disable IGMP proxy. I said you can disable IGMP, which is not the same thing. It worked for some people and not all. Most people need the multicast as you have said but it's still worth a try.

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Fri, 21 Dec 2012 06:06:27 EDT

v12v9 posted : Well, in response to the question about IPv6: here is a post on Verizon FiOS's page.

Verizon FiOS is supposed to be making IPv6 avail. 3rd quarter of 2012 for customers with a dynamic IP address first...

Is anyone seeing/ using it?

Re: Actiontec MI424WR FIOS N Router REV. I

Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:49:45 EDT

v12v9 posted : Guys - I just got the Rev I. It runs firmware 40.19.36.

I see the IPv6 option under Advanced on the router's setting page.
It's disabled.

Could someone please explain why I would want to enable it?
I also noticed that IPv6 has its own firewall setting...

Also, under Network, I don't have the option to Rename the device on most of the devices on my network. Why not?

Thank you in advance.