1 edit | [TWC] DD 5.1 CBS's audio presentation of "Criminal Minds" is supposedly in Digital Dolby 5.1,why is TWC audio feed the show in AC3(stereo)? In fact I haven't find any channel that does, is there? |
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 hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
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kudos:4 | No idea.
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1 edit | What's up TWC is running out of bandwidth? Directv doesn't do this, when the show is DD5.1 that's what it is.  |
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hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
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kudos:4 | said by bluepoint:What's up TWC is running out of bandwidth? Directv doesn't do this, when the show is DD5.1 that's what it is.
How much bandwidth would changing the audio save?
I think that its not being given to Time Warner in DD so that's why its missing.
Testing some other channels might be an idea to see if its missing everywhere!
Hob
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1 edit | I don't know how much it saves but I'm sure it's a lot bigger than stereo. Is that possible that they are not giving the DD to TWC, why would they advertise it in the screen? I'll be checking around if I find one, so far nada. |
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hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
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kudos:4 | Its tough to say...the guide info is provided by a third party and on occasions like anything its not correct. Certainly its working here!
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| I did not see it from the guide, it says "in HD5.1" in the bottom right of the screen in the beginning of the show. It's definitely in DD. Did you said, you are getting it in buffalo? What's the difference in NYC? |
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hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
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kudos:4 | Its a completely different feed and system. We get out local Networks you get yours.
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| If the feed from CBS is Dolby Digital 5.1 and it's coming out in AC3 from TWC, what do you think is the problem in NYC? |
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hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
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kudos:4 | said by bluepoint:If the feed from CBS is Dolby Digital 5.1 and it's coming out in AC3 from TWC, what do you think is the problem in NYC?
I hate speculating.
Hob
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| Ok no problem, I hope TWC look into this problem. TWC is definitely feeding the Audio in digital as my connection from the cable box to the audio receiver is optical but it's not giving us 6 channels. |
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3 edits | reply to bluepoint
said by bluepoint:CBS's audio presentation of "Criminal Minds" is supposedly in Digital Dolby 5.1,why is TWC audio feed the show in AC3(stereo)? In fact I haven't find any channel that does, is there?
That is because you need to use Optical (SPDIF), HDMI or coaxial cable(SPDIF) to the 5.1 receiver
DD-5.1 only uses 384-640Kbps Variable bit rate
DTS 5.1 is 1.5 mbps (Fixed bitrate from Blu-ray)
I can confirm in socal
DD 5.1 is being broadcast on both the
SD CBS and HD CBS |
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DrDrew
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kudos:6 | reply to bluepoint
said by bluepoint:CBS's audio presentation of "Criminal Minds" is supposedly in Digital Dolby 5.1,why is TWC audio feed the show in AC3(stereo)? In fact I haven't find any channel that does, is there?
What channel are you watching it on? analog, SD digital, or HD?
Analog and SD digital are usually only output in stereo with Dolby Pro Logic II.
The HD channel is usually the only channel that carries DD 5.1
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| said by DrDrew:said by bluepoint:CBS's audio presentation of "Criminal Minds" is supposedly in Digital Dolby 5.1,why is TWC audio feed the show in AC3(stereo)? In fact I haven't find any channel that does, is there?
What channel are you watching it on? analog, SD digital, or HD? Analog and SD digital are usually only output in stereo with Dolby Pro Logic II. The HD channel is usually the only channel that carries DD 5.1 incorrect.
I can confirm in socal
DD 5.1 is being broadcast on both the
SD CBS and HD CBS (using a digital HD box with Dolby Digital Plus) |
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DrDrew
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kudos:6 | said by Anonymous_:said by DrDrew:said by bluepoint:CBS's audio presentation of "Criminal Minds" is supposedly in Digital Dolby 5.1,why is TWC audio feed the show in AC3(stereo)? In fact I haven't find any channel that does, is there?
What channel are you watching it on? analog, SD digital, or HD? Analog and SD digital are usually only output in stereo with Dolby Pro Logic II. The HD channel is usually the only channel that carries DD 5.1 incorrect. I can confirm in socal DD 5.1 is being broadcast on both the SD CBS and HD CBS (using a digital HD box with Dolby Digital Plus) That's why I said USUALLY, as not all areas are the way you see it.
You also bring up another good point though, the cable box has to have a DD decoder in it. All HD boxes do have a DD decoder in it, but not all digital boxes do, especially older SD boxes.
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said by Anonymous: That is because you need to use Optical (SPDIF), HDMI or coaxial cable(SPDIF) to the 5.1 receiver
DD-5.1 only uses 384-640Kbps Variable bit rate
DTS 5.1 is 1.5 mbps (Fixed bitrate from Blu-ray)
I can confirm in socal
DD 5.1 is being broadcast on both the
SD CBS and HD CBS
That's correct, I'm using HDMI connection then tried a separate optical(SPDIF) cable to the receiver and still unable to get the DD5.1. |
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DrDrew
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Apple Valley, CA
kudos:6 | said by bluepoint:said by Anonymous: That is because you need to use Optical (SPDIF), HDMI or coaxial cable(SPDIF) to the 5.1 receiver
DD-5.1 only uses 384-640Kbps Variable bit rate
DTS 5.1 is 1.5 mbps (Fixed bitrate from Blu-ray)
I can confirm in socal
DD 5.1 is being broadcast on both the
SD CBS and HD CBS
That's correct, I'm using HDMI connection then tried a separate optical(SPDIF) cable to the receiver and still unable to get the DD5.1. Is that the only program or channel with that problem?
What is the audio output on the box set to? Some have multiple options... DD, HDMI, PCM, etc.
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If it's important, back it up... twice. Even 99.999% availability isn't enough sometimes. |
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said by DrDrew:What channel are you watching it on? analog, SD digital, or HD? HD
said by DrDrew:Analog and SD digital are usually only output in stereo with Dolby Pro Logic II. Wrong, Dolby Digital works in SD and HD, that's how I get it from
Directv when I had them.
said by DrDrew:The HD channel is usually the only channel that carries DD 5.1
See above. |
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DrDrew
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kudos:6 | said by bluepoint:said by DrDrew:Analog and SD digital are usually only output in stereo with Dolby Pro Logic II. Wrong, Dolby Digital works in SD and HD, that's how I get it from Directv when I had them. It TOTALLY depends on how the provider processes the signal. I've seen multiple situations where a digital SD channel didn't have a DD audio stream but the HD channel did.
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said by DrDrew:Is that the only program or channel with that problem?
What is the audio output on the box set to? Some have multiple options... DD, HDMI, PCM, etc.
I have not seen any channel that outputs DD5.1 yet. The TV's audio output is PCM and the other option is dolby but it's grayed out. Any reason for that? The TV is connected to a cable box through an HDMI cable. To eliminate the HDMI, I tried an Optical connection directly from the cable box to the Audio receiver and still no DD5.1.
My cable box receiver is SA Explorer 4250HDC. Is this receiver capable to output DD5.1? My guess is, it can, as it has HDMI and Optical outputs or is it a wrong assumption. |
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