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Re: FiOS 150/35 with bundle? said by TazExprez:UofMiamiGrad, in the 8th post down on this thread, bohratom mentions that his NJ area is only BPON, so the max he can order is 50/20. Maybe your area is just BPON? Do you qualify for unbundled 150/35, btw? Yeah, my CO is good for the 150/35 without a bundle. I'll just keep checking and see if it filters down to me. When it does I'll jump on it, otherwise no biggie. I could always call too.
Edit: Apparently my CO is NOT able to do 150/35, hence my only option being the 50/20 upgrade. Funny always said I could sign up for the service when it first debuted, oh well! Thanks for suggestion Taz! |
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 FiosmanPremium join:2006-12-28 Allendale, NJ kudos:3 | reply to RoKmAn I'm not going to sign up for 150/35 if its not bundled |
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| reply to RoKmAn said by RoKmAn:haha I bet you would jump twice on that deal and get yourself bonded  If I could get 150/35 stand-alone down to around $100 each then yeah I would opt for that. Also I would pay $300/month for a single 300/150 pipe as well. The problem is bonding adds extra complications and eats bandwidth on the vpn server I do for bonding. Also I would have to upgrade to a beefier router box as the little atom that used to do bonding when i was on dual 35/35 can only do about 100 mbits of VPN traffic per core (so 200/200 max over VPN). -- 150/75 mbit Verizon FiOS connection FTW! |
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| For the business static IP accounts we get screwed, at least in Texas. 35/35 is $129.99/mo, the next tier 50/20 is $194.99/mo, and the 150/35 plan is $214.99/mo.
They really need to start lowering the prices on the static IP plans.  |
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| said by McBane:For the business static IP accounts we get screwed, at least in Texas. 35/35 is $129.99/mo, the next tier 50/20 is $194.99/mo, and the 150/35 plan is $214.99/mo.
They really need to start lowering the prices on the static IP plans.  Spoiled is the word that comes to mind, not screwed. Name one other ISP provider that offers the same bandwidth for a better price. |
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| said by guppy_fish:Spoiled is the word that comes to mind, not screwed. Name one other ISP provider that offers the same bandwidth for a better price. Well... Its not something I would totally complain hard about but honestly verizon's static IP prices are WHACK. I mean its not so bad on the 150/75 package @ $15/month but why on one speed package its $15/month more and another its like $45/month more doesn't really make sense to me, kinda retarded. I honestly think a static ip should be no more than $10/more off the base service (for a single IP) and the 150/75 is close on that but most of the others make it not even worth it. -- 150/75 mbit Verizon FiOS connection FTW! |
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| reply to guppy_fish said by guppy_fish:said by McBane:For the business static IP accounts we get screwed, at least in Texas. 35/35 is $129.99/mo, the next tier 50/20 is $194.99/mo, and the 150/35 plan is $214.99/mo.
They really need to start lowering the prices on the static IP plans.  Spoiled is the word that comes to mind, not screwed. Name one other ISP provider that offers the same bandwidth for a better price. Surewest, active fiber, cheaper prices, faster speeds... Hou speaks the truth about their static plans. |
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| said by McBane:Surewest, active fiber, cheaper prices, faster speeds... Hou speaks the truth about their static plans. Then vote with your wallet
As for IPV4 addresses, they are going to get much more expensive as the last blocks have been doled out |
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| said by guppy_fish:said by McBane:Surewest, active fiber, cheaper prices, faster speeds... Hou speaks the truth about their static plans. Then vote with your wallet As for IPV4 addresses, they are going to get much more expensive as the last blocks have been doled out Believe me if I lived in Sacramento I would be on Surewest but FiOS is the best available for me and I know I'm lucky to have it. I was just answering your question of naming 1 ISP that has better speeds for the price, I could probably name a few more. I've had FiOS since it first went up here back in like '07 and it's a lot better now than it was then. What exactly are you complaining about if you have FiOS yourself? Why wouldn't you want better speeds for better prices? |
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| reply to RoKmAn I've never complained about the pricing of FIOS, just the opposite, I have never seen a link to show lower pricing for 35/35 anywhere, regardless of location.
Your word was "screwed", how exactly getting the best service and speed at a lower price than any provider is getting screwed? |
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 faze join:2011-01-10 Reisterstown, MD | I was told by Verizon that "if you are able to get Fios, you can get all speeds."
Just went into the upgrade section, and it's telling me it's down. Argh! |
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 bohratomGood Ol Jersey join:2011-07-07 Red Bank NJ 1 edit | reply to RoKmAn Wish they would upgrade my area in central Jersey from BPON to GPON as 50/20mb is the max I can upgrade to atm. |
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 | said by bohratom:Wish they would upgrade my area in central Jersey from BPON to GPON as 50/20mb is the max I can upgrade to atm. You & me both! Guess being one of the earlier COs to get FIOS means we will be the last to get upgraded to GPON, if at all. |
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2 edits | reply to guppy_fish said by guppy_fish:I've never complained about the pricing of FIOS, just the opposite, I have never seen a link to show lower pricing for 35/35 anywhere, regardless of location. Probably because you don't even look or know about them. The providers bury their pricing by making you type in addresses and whatnot. Surewest offers 100Mbps both ways for $59.99. I know this because I have friends and family who live in Sac. NTT in Japan offers 100Mbps both ways for like cheaper than US $30. I know this by reading slashdot. There is also a fiber service in Lousiana that offers full 100Mbps connections for much less than Verizon's 35/35 plan. I know this from having friends who live in Louisiana. Verizon is just the largest FTTP service, but it's far from the cheapest.
What I meant by screwed was exactly what houk was talking about. The prices for 150/35 on static is way off from the residential prices posted here. What you pay for in a business FiOS connection is mainly the same thing as residential just no ports blocked. The static IPs are a separate charge and unrelated to the line charge
You have your opinion and I have mine. If you're happy paying what you pay for 35/35 and taking that forever then whatever floats your boat. I on the other hand would like to see Verizon be competitive for the world's fastest fiber service, or even within the nation... |
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| said by McBane:Probably because you don't even look or know about them. The providers bury their pricing by making you type in addresses and whatnot. Surewest offers 100Mbps both ways for $59.99. I know this because I have friends and family who live in Sac. NTT in Japan offers 100Mbps both ways for like cheaper than US $30. I know this by reading slashdot. There is also a fiber service in Lousiana that offers full 100Mbps connections for much less than Verizon's 35/35 plan. I know this from having friends who live in Louisiana. Verizon is just the largest FTTP service, but it's far from the cheapest.
What I meant by screwed was exactly what houk was talking about. The prices for 150/35 on static is way off from the residential prices posted here. What you pay for in a business FiOS connection is mainly the same thing as residential just no ports blocked. The static IPs are a separate charge and unrelated to the line charge
You have your opinion and I have mine. If you're happy paying what you pay for 35/35 and taking that forever then whatever floats your boat. I on the other hand would like to see Verizon be competitive for the world's fastest fiber service, or even within the nation... 100% agreed here.
Indeed there are faster and better priced service than FIOS out there. Paxio offers 50/50 for $74.50 which is cheaper than stand alone 35/35 is and 100/100 ofr $94.50 and 1000/1000 for $245. I would much rather have 1000/1000 for $245 than 150/75 for $215. I think the service I get from VZ is an excellent deal already but their static IP pricing really doesn't make any sense.
I have never seen another provider that changes the cost of a static IP a huge amount depending on speed. These are their older prices (that I think are only $5 cheaper than now but too lazy to check) but:
25/25 Dyn: $84.99 Static: $104.99 Diff: $20 35/35 Dyn: $99.99 Static: $124.99 Diff: $25 50/20 Dyn: $149.99 Static: $189.99 Diff: $40 150/35 Dyn: $199.99 Static: $209.99 Diff: $10
Why are all the plans different prices for static IP and its a $40 difference on 50/20 but only $10 on 150/35 meaning with static IP the difference between the two packages is only $20 vs a $50 difference with dynamic. Their pricing model for static service really does not make sense at all.
And yes I did use my wallet to vote on this before. The ips are pretty sticky so I do not absolutely need a static IP and guess what when had two 35/35 connections there was no way it was worth an extra $25 (or $50 for both) to get a static IP.
Honestly with the way they are going i was kind of shocked to find out 150/35 (150/75) was only $10 more for a static IP. I was totally expecting it to be $50 with the way they ramped it up on the other speeds. -- 150/75 mbit Verizon FiOS connection FTW! |
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 RoKmAn join:2000-09-09 East Elmhurst, NY | On a separate note from the current convo, why can't Verizon just provision the new speed remotely? I won't be using their new router anyway. The ONT apparently supports those speeds, so why the delay? I also see that if I try to place an order for an upgrade to 50/20, it still says the activation date is on the 9th. Is this due to some billing cycle issue or legitimate technical reasons? |
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 | reply to UofMiamiGrad said by UofMiamiGrad:said by bohratom:Wish they would upgrade my area in central Jersey from BPON to GPON as 50/20mb is the max I can upgrade to atm. You & me both! Guess being one of the earlier COs to get FIOS means we will be the last to get upgraded to GPON, if at all. You might get very lucky and maybe Verizon starts to implement XG-PON2 on a larger scale and you get to be next. With Google starting their 1Gbps service next year, and with other small scale community fiber systems getting started, Verizon may want to start their own 1Gbps+ beta for some more customers. |
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 Zero join:2009-07-01 Collegeville, PA | I don't see that happening unless cable companies start offering comparable speeds. Verizon competes with cable, not with muni-fiber or any other residential fiber deployments which are nothing compared to Verizon's FiOS deployment - especially to those who think the FiOS footprint is tiny.
In the meantime, BPON COs are going to be milked as much as possible with no upgrade in sight until they can't hookup any new customers in an area to the existing BPON. Only then will that require them to deploy GPON in the CO alongside BPON for the new customers. Meaning any new bundles or packages with speeds 100+ mbps will continue to be unavailable to BPON only COs. |
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 RoKmAn join:2000-09-09 East Elmhurst, NY | reply to RoKmAn How would one affirmatively know whether they are on BPON or GPON? |
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 Zero join:2009-07-01 Collegeville, PA | You can tell what your current ONT is by the model of your ONT. There used to be a FAQ that listed the different models and whether they were BPON or GPON.
Otherwise, generally an ONT that has a gigabit ethernet port on it is GPON, and one with only a fast ethernet port is BPON. |
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