Topic 'what is the best to replace cell plan?' in forum 'voip.ms users forum' - dslreports.com

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:45:39 EDT

anon posted : ok so bluetooth is still not working , i can heard not too bad but the other side can not hear me or very little, so spending my time screaming in the car is a no no !!!!

if you found a solution for the bluetooth let me know.

sly

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:21:13 EDT

DanTou posted : Dell Voice is associated with Fongo (freephoneline.ca). Their product has been free for a long time.

They probably make money from the 2 cents a minute they charge when you call outside the listed cities (more than 2 cents to other countries). Also the fees for the extras. Have you noticed the Dell publicity too?

I guess all those little fees get money in.

Google voice does the same thing.

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:33:22 EDT

anon posted : dont you think that is strange to be free ???

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:30:44 EDT

anon posted : ok it finnally connect so far it is fast to ring and the sound is pretty good.... tommorow i will try the bluetooth

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:08:02 EDT

DanTou posted : I didn't buy the unlock key. Not necessary for what I tried.

The unlock key is to make sure you don't lose your phone number if you don't use the number for 90 days. It is also necessary to configure an ATA. It may unlock some functions but I haven't seen anything about it.

Like I said: I'm trying it but it just came out, and I have found much info how to customize. But they have a forum: I'll probably take a look soon.

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:31:17 EDT

anon posted : 50$ to unlock sip apps !!!!

Re: Dell Voice

Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:29:28 EDT

anon posted : ok from what i read i need to buy the VOIP unlock key !!!

Re: Dell Voice

Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:20:34 EDT

anon posted : if i can connect i will try it, there is an option for bluetooth it look like they support it !!! it will be great

Re: Dell Voice

Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:19:05 EDT

anon posted : i just download it, but the phone is red can not connect to fongo...

my problem with sipdroid and probably bria is the bluetooth connectivity.... i did not try bria but they told me they dont support bluetooh yet, it should be in the next version.... and sipdroid is impossible to talk on bluetooh it keep cutting every 1 or 2 seconds.

do you know if i cann buy a earpiece and microphone wired ? fot samsung gio ? i had one with my regular cell phone, but the pin is smaller. and does the gio will support it ?

Re: Dell Voice

Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:02:03 EDT

DanTou posted : Need a data plan; same as with pbxes.org. But don't need pbxes.org.

But your cell won't be an ATA. Just a regular phone. So your can do with it, anything you'd do with a regular phone combined with voip.ms.

I don't know about Bluetooth.

Easier to install; just not as flexible.

Depending on your needs, it may cost less.

Re: Dell Voice

Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:56:45 EDT

anon posted : ok cool

do we use it with a data plan , same as whet you make me setup?

does it work with bluetooth ?

thanks

sly

Dell Voice

Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:25:38 EDT

DanTou posted : Dell Voice has been launched in Canada. It is an alternative to voip.ms/pbxes.org/SipDroid.

Pros:
Free outgoing calls to many canadian cities.
Free incoming calls (unlimited).
Free phone number (no one time fee or monthly payment).
Very easy to install.

Cons:
Can't cutomize outgoing Caller Id: It just shows the new phone number.
Other cities than the free ones, are more expensive to call than using voip.ms.
Less options than voip.ms.
Uses 1MB/minute instead of 500KB/minute with voip.ms.
It is not as robust as SipDroid: it shuts down by itself (once or twice a day).
Cannot record calls.

The same:
Battery usage in standby.
Bandwidth usage in standby.

Unknown:
When pbxes.org goes down (not often), the cell tries to connect and wastes banwidth and battery life: Will Dell Voice be the same?

Trick:
I added the new phone number Dell Voice gave me, to my Ring Group: don't need to give this number to anybody. I think, my incoming calls will be billed by voip.ms 1 cent/minute. Not a big deal if so!

I'm trying it and will keep you posted.

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:45:22 EDT

anon posted : sherwood just follow the step by step, the only thing missing is in pbxes you need to create a inbound routing you choose in regular hour and after hour, choose extension and pick your. at the bottom you choose NO override

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:38:34 EDT

ssherwood posted : GRR - it seems that with this service, there is no way to open a support case without paying, including posting to their forums!

I couldn't connect via chicago.voip.ms for some reason, but toronto.voip.ms worked.

Totally bizzare.

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:26:54 EDT

ssherwood posted : Hrm - I got this to work by using a different voip.ms server. Bizzare.

I'll contact pbxes.com to see if my preferred server can be OK'd.

-- SS

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:49:04 EDT

ssherwood posted : I've just tried this, and when I try to add Voip.MS as a trunk, I get an error message about needing to have a paid account with this provider for security reasons...

Any idea what that means?

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:45:58 EDT

DanTou posted : I don't have any Bluetooth accessories so I can't test it. I guess you may have to search for a forum speaking more precisely about the Gio.

Have you tried this? »androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-gio/

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:08:00 EDT

anon posted : there is one thing i need to do and it does not work.

i paired my jawbone2 with the phone, but i have no sound at all in my bluetooth, nothing from sipdroid and nothing from sound apps.

where in the gio i need to tell to use bluetooth when connect?

sly

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Thu, 02 Feb 2012 01:20:07 EDT

anon posted : cool, yes i will..... thanks again without your help i would be still trying to figure it out....

sly

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:57:22 EDT

DanTou posted : Have fun!

Keep us posted on the phone you are using, battery life, sound quality...

I like mine, but like I said before, I'm not talking more than a couple of minutes a day. If you talk 30 minutes, I wonder about battery life... But who's talking more than 30 minutes a day on a cell? (except on unlimited, expensive plans). It probably varies from phone to phone.

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 20:05:55 EDT

anon posted : ok now it all seem to work, we have to configure incoming route in pbxes ... thats it i can receive and send.

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:20:33 EDT

anon posted : i now have my voicemail enable , i get in. where in voip.ms i set to route to pbxes ? incoming call

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:12:33 EDT

anon posted : i did some progress, i can now make call but can not receive, it ring once than busy

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:40:47 EDT

DanTou posted : In your phone, you put the username and password from pbxes.org.

In pbxes.org, you put the subaccount name and password from voip.ms.

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:15:59 EDT

anon posted : ok when i call the number (i buy at voipms to test) it is busy.

in the sipdroid the authorization user name what do i put ? is it my user from pbxes or ???

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:01:38 EDT

anon posted : ok i did all the step but thats not working, do i need to setup something in voip.ms, i create a sub accouint ans select it did sip/iax

do i need something else ? it is not ringing

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:46:54 EDT

Rigor_M posted :

said by DanTou:

Because voip.ms uses UDP, not TCP.

Your phone will disconnect every few seconds from the network. If you setup your phone to reconnect every few seconds, it will eat up your data plan and the battery won't last more than a few hours.

My Samsung Gio lasted about 4 hours with UDP. With TCP, 3 days (on standby).

ooohhh !! thats a good reason ! :D

But, I could Install a Asterisk or freeswitch on a server at home and do the same thing ?

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:34:04 EDT

DanTou posted : Because voip.ms uses UDP, not TCP.

Your phone will disconnect every few seconds from the network. If you setup your phone to reconnect every few seconds, it will eat up your data plan and the battery won't last more than a few hours.

My Samsung Gio lasted about 4 hours with UDP. With TCP, 3 days (on standby).

Re: Android phone

Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:46:53 EDT

Rigor_M posted : Hi, I have a question regarding PBXes web site.

Why use there services ? You can setup sipDroid with voip.ms's sub-account and use it directly ?

thanks !

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:18:02 EDT

anon posted : hi, from another user , he told me if i take a tablet plan, you need to change sp.telus.com to isp.telus.com, and on the gio it is easy and on the ace he did not find how to make that change. so that make the ace unusable with telus tablet plan.

Re: what is the best to replace cell plan?

Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:41:47 EDT

Balzard posted : I too have the Samsung Gio. If you can find it at $100 or lower, it will be a good deal.

You can unlock it for free using this method

»forums.redflagdeals.com/futuresh···13455659

You can also use a different method to make calls using voip.ms, see instructions here

»forums.redflagdeals.com/unlimite···-919161/

Re: Battery life and call quality

Sat, 07 Jan 2012 22:55:53 EDT

anon posted : i miss the secial at bestbuy , but now i will buy the samsung ace as you sugest me....

any special ??

thanks

Battery life and call quality

Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:18:16 EDT

DanTou posted : Just one delay I had to get used to: when you answer a call. When talking, I have tried calling myself on a home phone: with a phone on each ear, it think it's a fraction of a second... 1/10 maybe. Quality of call is as good as any other phone: very clear.

I recharge my phone every night. Most of the time, it's not half empty. But like I said before, I'm not using the phone like some people I know who seem to always be on the phone. If you're thinking about calling your mom, and talk for more than an hour, I guess the battery would drain. When I do use the phone for a long period of time (as a FLAC player for example), I plug it into a USB port or car adapter or charger.

Re: Battery life on a Samsung Gio

Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:48:20 EDT

anon posted : does your batterie last 2 days ??

what is the quality of call ? does it cut often or is delay ?

sly

Re: Samsung Gio on sale

Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:37:40 EDT

anon posted : thanks

Samsung Gio on sale

Wed, 04 Jan 2012 00:47:32 EDT

DanTou posted : Sale juste started at Bestbuy: $100

»www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/sam···659cen02

Battery life on a Samsung Gio

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 22:53:15 EDT

DanTou posted : If I don't use it much, 3 days.

I use it as a FLAC player, I use a few Internet apps every day. But I talk no more than a couple minutes per day. SipDroid seems to take more CPU (battery life) than the regular phone. It is expected because it's not using built-in phone functions. I have never tested how long I could talk to completely drain the batteries.

The batteries always last a full day (for my use).

You should install an app to monitor CPU (I use Watchdog). If you get rid of apps that use too much CPU, your batteries will last longer. You should also install an app to monitor 3G data (I use My Data Manager).

Completely off topic: I use Dropbox almost everyday. It will sync all files in designated folders. On your PC, the complete files will be in sync with "the cloud". On your phone, only the file names. When you select one of the files, it will ask if you want to download. Very clever and very useful.

Re: Blocking regular phone calls

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 20:54:46 EDT

anon posted : i heard that the batterie does not last long, how long do you last with sidroid?

Blocking regular phone calls

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:48:27 EDT

DanTou posted : I found a way...

Installing Avast! Free Mobile Security gives you the ability to block all incoming and outgoing phone calls.

SipDroid incoming and outgoing calls still work.

If you wish, you can also block incoming SMS (SMS is a $5 option at Telus). You can still send SMS, but it's more obvious, so you won't do it if you didn't take the option.

You should replace the regular phone by SipDroid in the dock at the base of the screen. You should also link contacts with SipDroid only: you will have full phone integration through SipDroid.

Re: 911

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:43:10 EDT

DanTou posted : Telus told me they always give a phone number, even with tablets.

I think, with tablets, the phone number is only for their billing system; you can't use it.

The Telus $10/100Mb is an option for prepaid phones, not tablets, so you will be charged about $1 for 911.

I don't think you'll be charged the 911 fees if you succeed in telling them you have a tablet. But I haven't tried that yet. They tell me data plans are incompatible with phones. I don't really believe that. Data is data. Prepaid or not. But, I can't tell you it works because I haven't tried it yet.

But reading the Telus site, I found this: "If a SIM card is installed on a voice device, airtime is charged at $1.00 per minute". So, I guess it does work. But don't make the mistake of answering or calling with the regular phone instead of SipDroid! I haven't found a way to disable the regular phone.

Re: Funny thing

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:05:11 EDT

anon posted : yes this i know , because i think they bith gonna ring at same time, of course not if i am calling myself, but if i receive call.

Re: 911

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:05:05 EDT

anon posted : if i take a data plan they still give me a phone number ??

Funny thing

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:00:42 EDT

DanTou posted : When you have an ATA at home and a cell phone...

You can call home from your cell. You can call your cell from home... With the same number!

Recording

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:41:52 EDT

DanTou posted : Don't forget to turn on "recording" in SipDroid. Useful when getting promises from Bell/Videotron. ;)

911

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:41:04 EDT

DanTou posted : 911 is available if you use the regular dialing on your phone. So, in case of an emergency, you don't have to worry about server outages.

But... Watch out! I used regular dialing a few times by mistake: I got charged 20 cents/minute. Not a big deal if you don't make the mistake too often.

Bell/Telus will give you a phone number: don't give that phone number to anyone. It is of no use anyway as you will use voip.ms phone number.

Before you port your number...

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:37:41 EDT

DanTou posted : Test with another number (DID) you can buy from voip.ms for $1. If your cell plan is your main phone, you may have problems for a few days while you setup everything.

Re: Other thoughts...

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:28:01 EDT

anon posted : thanks dantou i ll do that tonight and i will only have to find a plan with someone, bell or telus.....

and after wait for my porting to be done..

thanks

i really apreciate the time you took ;-)

sly

Android phone

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:27:14 EDT

DanTou posted : I have the samsung Gio that was very inexpensive in august ($70). It is now back to $150. For the same price, if you can get the Samsung Ace, it is better.

Here's a comparison:

»www.compare-cellphones.org/Samsu···LAXY-Gio

The Galaxy Ace is $150 at Koodo right now.

»shop.koodomobile.com/koodo-cell-···ACE.html

Other thoughts...

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:23:15 EDT

DanTou posted : All that being said...

You can have a paid account with PBXes.org without using voip.ms at all. But I never checked what their prices were since I already was with voip.ms and I am happy with the functionalities.

In the last 6 months, PBXes.org had 3 outages. They lasted less than an hour. They send you an email saying you are routed to another server automatically with a paid account.

When you install SipDroid, an ad banner appears: if you have already configured your phone for voip.ms, SipDroid will do all of this automatically for you. But you will have to review all parameters because it will also setup voicemail and other stuff you don't want if you want to stick with voip.ms.

I use the GSM CODEC in my phone. It is compatible with voip.ms, the sound is clear enough and takes 1/2MB per minute.

I may (or may not) have forgotten something because I setup everything about 6 months ago. I hope I didn't.

Have fun!