guppy_fishPremium
join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
kudos:1 | reply to faze
Re: Horrible Wifi Connection Speed Yes, please read the FAQ ... all the questions have been asked many times before and More Filber has spent the last 3+ years building it into the best one I have ever seen! |
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said by guppy_fish:said by mnl1121:You people know nothing about channel saturation. It takes MUCH more than just 4 routers operating on the same channel to saturate it.
Thats a pretty bold statement, what is your educational background? I have my CCNA, have taught college level courses in Networking and could explain mesh networks and what colleges do to get acceptable wireless performance on a campus, hint, they don't use off the shelf router or antennas. I'm a senior at NJIT and major in IT with a concentration in Network Security and Systems Administration. My educational background is more than enough to diagnose WiFi problems. Congrats at being able to explain a mesh network. Types of network topology is what I learned in freshman year (I don't mean to sound nasty or arrogant, but thats not exactly advanced, nor really have anything to do with Faze's problem).
The dorm my friend stays at (I frequently stay at also) does not have any campus APs. All of the APs are the students own personal routers. So yes they are all off the shelf. In my friends dorm room there are easily 30+ detected with a good 15 or more of them that have a strong enough signal to interfere with each other. Wireless performance is generally decent.
But again since everyone believes 4 APs on the same channel will cause performance hindering interference then by all means go ahead and keep believing. Its not though. All the evidence points otherwise. Performance limited to 10 mbit/s, a stable connection. Thats not evidence of a saturated channel. Performance would be erratic and your connection on all of your devices would drop frequently.
said by faze:Fine I'll call Verizon and have them replace the damn router. Don't get all pissy.
You should so at least you can say you've tried everything. It is a pretty painless process. They send you a new router in about a day or two and you send your old one back within 30 days (I believe). They give you new cat 5e cables and a shipping label. It costs you nothing and you won't be without service as you receive the replacement before you send out your old one.
I really think its the AT, as I've said before. I may not be right, but the evidence suggests it is. The other routers in the area didn't even have a very strong signal in your house.
EDIT: I've checked my own area and even I have more routers on the same channel. I'll upload an image soon.
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Do you believe me now that its not channel saturation? I've got 5 routers on channel 11 and i'm using 40 MHz channel width so channel 5 through 13 interfere with mine. That means 10 APs overlap with mine!
Please understand channel saturation is NOT your problem!
EDIT 2: I'll even change to channel 1 to prove my point even more. Then I'd have 20 APs operating on overlapping channels. I guarantee I will still have good operational WiFi. |
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I would seriously consider using a 5Ghz router even though your on a different channel many routers will auto cycle so you might see some benefit. Unless you have a lot of walls between the router and a connection.
Or bypass all this wireless hassle and use powerline ethernet or plain old ethernet. |
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faze
join:2011-01-10
Reisterstown, MD | reply to mnl1121
Alright, I'll get in touch with Verizon. |
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| said by clarknova156:Good lord , all those wifi connections ..
I would seriously consider using a 5Ghz router even though your on a different channel many routers will auto cycle so you might see some benefit. Unless you have a lot of walls between the router and a connection.
Or bypass all this wireless hassle and use powerline ethernet or plain old ethernet.
I am mainly in the same room as my router, but sometimes I do move throughout the house. I will probably eventually get a 5 GHz router sometime. I get a good signal though.
said by faze:Alright, I'll get in touch with Verizon.
lol I'm glad your finally seeing my point. |
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faze
join:2011-01-10
Reisterstown, MD | Well, can't even get in touch with Verizon. The call volume is always ridiculous, and the wait time on the live chat is hours. The live chat people don't really speak English anyway.
Honestly, the problem has gotten worse. To copy a 300 meg file takes upwards of 12 hours!!! What is going on?? |
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| said by faze:Well, can't even get in touch with Verizon. The call volume is always ridiculous, and the wait time on the live chat is hours. The live chat people don't really speak English anyway.
Honestly, the problem has gotten worse. To copy a 300 meg file takes upwards of 12 hours!!! What is going on??
The Live Chat wait time is usually 5 minutes at most. Try again during off-peak hours. Are you copying the file within the network from computer to computer? |
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faze
join:2011-01-10
Reisterstown, MD | Yes, within the network. |
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| Thats a pretty common problem when you've got a bad router. There aren't many other causes for a slow file transfer from within the network. Pretty much the only other causes are the devices that are transferring the files, but that is much less likely than the router. |
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guppy_fishPremium
join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
kudos:1 | reply to faze
OP is talking about the same issue, transfers over wireless on the local lan.
Until the OP actually does SOMETHING, nothing will change improve. |
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faze
join:2011-01-10
Reisterstown, MD | No kidding. Just was venting that Verizon is unreachable and the performance has gotten worse. |
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said by guppy_fish:OP is talking about the same issue, transfers over wireless on the local lan.
Until the OP actually does SOMETHING, nothing will change improve.
Huh? no. this is another issue. His first problem was speed out to the internet, now its within the network. Different problem, probably caused by the same issue. |
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faze
join:2011-01-10
Reisterstown, MD | It's the same issue bud. Speed tests are getting slower, internal transfer rates are getting worse. |
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| well yeah it is pretty much the same issue. Definitely caused by the same thing. Any luck with contacting Verizon? |
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faze
join:2011-01-10
Reisterstown, MD | So far no. Why would it be getting worse? Wintertime? lol |
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| said by faze:So far no. Why would it be getting worse? Wintertime? lol
Temperature has little affect on electronics (except extreme temperatures) so i'm guessing its some kind hardware failure (like a ROM chip went bad and isn't utilizing all of its memory or something. idk i'm not a computer engineer). It might eventually decide to completely stop working if you wait long enough. |
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faze
join:2011-01-10
Reisterstown, MD
1 edit | reply to faze
Finally got through to Verizon. It took me being transferred to a supervisor to have a truck roll scheduled. The moron just kept telling me to reboot the router.
Argh!
Edit: Well after wasting an hour of my life, I talked to 4 different people, all were telling me they can't send a tech out, or to contact another department. Finally gave up when they said I had to call in to have an appointment setup for somebody to run CAT5e. Ugh I hate Verizon support.
I'm just going to run this myself. Where do I get cheap cat5e and RJ45 connectors? |
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 Smith6612Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:21 | Monoprice! |
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faze
join:2011-01-10
Reisterstown, MD | Found 1000 feet on NewEgg for like $110 after shipping. Good deal? |
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guppy_fishPremium
join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
kudos:1 | Home Depot |
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