mogamer
join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI
1 edit | reply to Goober
Re: ultra tv said by Goober:You're comparing WUTV to other systems that can expand their basic offering. WUTV can as well. So, HDD space is a non-issue. It's not specific to WUTV.
And you're talking silly nonsense. Standard capacity in an HTPC? What's that? I have 3 TB in my HTPC. Is that standard? Or, are the ones that have 500GB standard? Maybe the ones that I've seen AVS members have with 100TB of rack storage. Are those standard?
I'm sure you're htpc is cheaper in the long run also. So larger capacity for less money is always good. No need for your argument to get to the absurd using server storage for an example. I visit AVS Forum too. Some of those guys spend so much time recording/archiving, you have to wonder if they even have time to watch anything.
When I mentioned standard I should have said compared to other pay-tv providers WHDVRs. Dish is coming out with a 2tb WHDVR (although 1tb is reserved for Dish). And with Tivo and DirectTV, those WH options can combine multiple dvrs, well with Tivo you have combine them. So, yes 500gb is small as a standard. But cableco dvrs are always a step or two behind what is available elsewhere.
Hey, this system is probably better than Comcast's. But Comcast is basically "low hanging fruit". The thing that really bothers me is that the client boxes are so damn pricey. $15 each per month? WTF! |
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 GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:5
 ·Dish Network
| I agree 500GB standard is small. I've got ReplayTVs that I outfitted with that size of drive years ago and HD wasn't even a consideration back then. My thought is that at least the WOW boxes enable eSATA storage, unlike the shitty Comcast ones that also have little on-board storage and can't be expanded. But you're right, beating Comcast is hardly difficult. |
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pcvtre
join:2012-01-27
Park Ridge, IL | Do you still need to rent a modem with ultra TV for internet? |
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GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:5 | Unfortunately, I don't know. My order sheet is at home, so I can't look at it right now. Hopefully others can chime in. |
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sgc
join:2011-11-02
Naperville, IL | reply to xavier101
Ultra TV's Media Gateway includes the modem and MUST be used in order to function. The price is included in the $25 Ultra TV equipment package. It also replaces your router since it connects to your computer for DLNA content. |
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pcvtre
join:2012-01-27
Park Ridge, IL | My internet/cable media panel is in my basement. I assume that they will need to plug the main unit in there. Not sure how well a router will work in my basement. Glad I did not buy a modem. Nice to save another $5 a month on the bill. |
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GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:5 Reviews:
·Dish Network
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Replaces the router? I hadn't thought about that, but that only makes sense. Crap, I'll have to figure out how to run my MoCA network properly then. Likely will have to bridge my MI424WR to the gateway then. Hopefully that works and is relatively easy. I have doubts as to whether the WOW installer would have any idea what to do in terms of coming up with a solution, let alone it's not their job. |
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said by sgc:Ultra TV's Media Gateway includes the modem and MUST be used in order to function. The price is included in the $25 Ultra TV equipment package. It also replaces your router since it connects to your computer for DLNA content.
Well you could have your router connected to their router for extra security. I'd much rather leave their router totally open.. then connect my router to it which has my security measures in place. |
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richkut
join:2012-02-10
Cleveland, OH | reply to xavier101
I am a new WOW customer, having Ultra TV Signature, Advanced Phone and 15/2 Internet installed in 10 days. I have a question about DLNA servers. Will the Install Tech help me set this up if I have the software loaded on my PCs? Which DLNA server is recommended, or have you already with Ultra installed used and liked? WOW suggests Windows Media Connect, TVersity Media Server, TwonkyMedia Manager and PlayOn, which they have tested, but I am sure that there are others. So before I have my system installed, any recommendations from those with experience? I also want something user-friendly and easy to use. Thank you in advance.
Rich K. |
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| I have uses TVersity in the past and like it. |
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GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:5 Reviews:
·Dish Network
2 edits | reply to Body Count
The problem is the MoCA network I run. As it exists now, the Actiontec MI424WR that I use as a MoCA bridge connects via ethernet to the cable modem. Then I connect the MI424WR to the cable running in the house. I have several other MI424WR routers that then provide wired access to other devices in the house.
At this point, I don't know how the Media Gateway will interface into my system. Although, I'm hopeful that simply splitting the cable will work.
The picture shows basically how I'm set up, although I have a lot more Actiontec routers throughout the house and use the Actiontec as my main router rather than the router shown. I got the diagram from »www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···=1145636, which is where I learned to set up the MoCA network. |
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| I'm with Rich K. I hope the installation tech helps me set this up. 
The little bit of research I tried to do on this topic led me to believe that if you have Windows 7, Windows Media Connect is already installed and ready to go.
I admire you hardware geeks for your knowledge and I'm sure you set up a lot of cool things, but about 90% of the discussion around here is so far over my head it's not funny! |
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mogamer
join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI
2 edits | reply to Goober
said by Goober:The problem is the MoCA network I run. As it exists now, the Actiontec MI424WR that I use as a MoCA bridge connects via ethernet to the cable modem. Then I connect the MI424WR to the cable running in the house. I have several other MI424WR routers that then provide wired access to other devices in the house.
At this point, I don't know how the Media Gateway will interface into my system. Although, I'm hopeful that simply splitting the cable will work.
The picture shows basically how I'm set up, although I have a lot more Actiontec routers throughout the house and use the Actiontec as my main router rather than the router shown. I got the diagram from »www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···=1145636, which is where I learned to set up the MoCA network.
The biggest problem is that the stb's will be directly connecting to the modem/router and not to the incoming cable. It looks like you'd need to split the cable many times from the source going to the gateway and the routers, and would probably need a signal booster. And that's not even taking into account signal interference between the MOCA and cable systems. You probably can re-use your existing coax though, so it may not be as difficult as you think. |
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sgc
join:2011-11-02
Naperville, IL | reply to richkut
said by richkut:I am a new WOW customer, having Ultra TV Signature, Advanced Phone and 15/2 Internet installed in 10 days. I have a question about DLNA servers. Will the Install Tech help me set this up if I have the software loaded on my PCs? Which DLNA server is recommended, or have you already with Ultra installed used and liked? WOW suggests Windows Media Connect, TVersity Media Server, TwonkyMedia Manager and PlayOn, which they have tested, but I am sure that there are others. So before I have my system installed, any recommendations from those with experience? I also want something user-friendly and easy to use. Thank you in advance.
Rich K.
I use PlayOn. I don't have Ultra installed yet, but it works well so far. They will help you get it set up, but it isn't that difficult. Sadly you missedthe major sale in Jan, but it is still reasonably priced. I'll let you know when it's installed. |
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richkut
join:2012-02-10
Cleveland, OH | reply to prospector00
WINDOWS MEDIA CENTER is preinstalled as a part of Win7, but I believe that Windows Media Connect is a separate animal. Please correct me if I am wrong. Anyway, I googled it yesterday and was taken to the MS web site, but when I attempted to D/L Windows Media Connect 2.0 it ended up being a dead link. I would prefer to use a FREE DLNA server, too, so I really don't want to pay for PlayOn. If TVersity works well, I would prefer to go that route. Any more comments, please?
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sgc
join:2011-11-02
Naperville, IL | Media Connect is included on Windows computers. It is a feature of Windows Media Player; not a standalone program. One of the others is free as well. |
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GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:5 Reviews:
·Dish Network
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said by mogamer:said by Goober:The problem is the MoCA network I run. As it exists now, the Actiontec MI424WR that I use as a MoCA bridge connects via ethernet to the cable modem. Then I connect the MI424WR to the cable running in the house. I have several other MI424WR routers that then provide wired access to other devices in the house.
At this point, I don't know how the Media Gateway will interface into my system. Although, I'm hopeful that simply splitting the cable will work.
The picture shows basically how I'm set up, although I have a lot more Actiontec routers throughout the house and use the Actiontec as my main router rather than the router shown. I got the diagram from »www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···=1145636, which is where I learned to set up the MoCA network.
The biggest problem is that the stb's will be directly connecting to the modem/router and not to the incoming cable. It looks like you'd need to split the cable many times from the source going to the gateway and the routers, and would probably need a signal booster. And that's not even taking into account signal interference between the MOCA and cable systems. You probably can re-use your existing coax though, so it may not be as difficult as you think. Thanks. I've got a gazillion splits as it is and a couple of amps. I can only imagine the issues if I put another one or two in there of each.
Could you explain a little more about the connection between the STBs and the router/modem?
I'm hopeful that the cable company boxes do, or can be made to, work on a different MoCA frequency from my own network. |
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richkut
join:2012-02-10
Cleveland, OH | reply to sgc
Thanks for the much-needed correction! I'm happy to know that I'm ready to roll with my Win 7 Pro PCs. |
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said by sgc:Media Connect is included on Windows computers. It is a feature of Windows Media Player; not a standalone program. One of the others is free as well.
Right, that's how I understood it too. Apparently, Media Connect used to be a standalone program (hence the references to 2.0 out there) but is now part of Windows Media Player. I talked to the tech who will be setting me up this afternoon and he's anxious to work through this too, so I'll let everyone know how it comes out. |
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pcvtre
join:2012-01-27
Park Ridge, IL | Tech support just confirmed that you do not need a phone line. If you are connecting 4 or more TVs to the system, Direct TV is cheaper over a two year period. Looks like Wow is targeting 2 to 3 TV customers with their initial pricing. I assume it will eventually drop once the initial demand is met so they can compete with Dish and Direct TV. |
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