| what breaks grandfathered unlimited Hey I am grandfathered with unlimited data but what would break that ? a new phone ? changing phone plan ? What can I do without breaking that ?
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 HallPremium,MVM
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kudos:1 | A new phone will not. Two new phones will not. Adding a 3rd line will not. Changing plans will not. If you can guess, this is from personal experience... There's surely more that will not.
Only thing that will break it is changing to a tiered data plan. When you do that, you can't go back. |
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changing to a new 4g phone will |
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Peyton, CO | said by bill456 :changing to a new 4g phone will
WRONG!
I just upgraded in December from my Original Droid (3G Unlimited) to a Galaxy Nexus and got 4G Unlimited data plan, same price.
Attached is a screenshot I just took from my Nexus (on 4g, see upper right corner) showing Unlimited data plan.
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kudos:1 | reply to bill456
said by bill456 :changing to a new 4g phone will
Just to be clear, here's a second wrong!. Notice my comment above about "two new phones" (at different times too!) ?
Now, if you mean coming from a dumbphone with no data plan at all to a 4g phone that requires a data plan, yes, that would force you to a tiered data plan ... but that wasn't the original question. |
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 burner50Helping Darwin WINPremium,VIP
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kudos:1 | reply to MasterThomas
Dropping a data package (to go to a dumbphone) will break it. |
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Also i heard that adding mobile hotspot or tethering forces you onto the new tiers since those are no longer separate services and are now packaged in in tiered packages. no personal experience tho. |
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| said by Somnambul33t:Also i heard that adding mobile hotspot or tethering forces you onto the new tiers since those are no longer separate services and are now packaged in in tiered packages. no personal experience tho.
easytether ftw. VZW did a ghost remove on me once, but the company who made it immediately emailed everyone with a download link to re-download it. Short of VZW out-right blocking the app, they don't really have an efficient means of targeting users who ensure their tethering data usage isn't exorbitant.
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| If you have unlimited ... you have unlimited. Period.
If you want tethering ... assuming you have 4G ... and assuming you already have unlimited ... then your tethering will be unlimited also.
You can upgrade your phone (at the end of your 2 years for example) ... and you will keep your unlimited.
I think the only way to break it would be to drop your data package, moving to a feature phone only as already mentioned.
Adding a new line to your account with data ... the new line will be on a tiered data plan. If you add tethering to the new line ... tethering will be tiered also. |
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said by Krisnatharok:said by Somnambul33t:Also i heard that adding mobile hotspot or tethering forces you onto the new tiers since those are no longer separate services and are now packaged in in tiered packages. no personal experience tho.
easytether ftw. VZW did a ghost remove on me once, but the company who made it immediately emailed everyone with a download link to re-download it. Short of VZW out-right blocking the app, they don't really have an efficient means of targeting users who ensure their tethering data usage isn't exorbitant. yes, this is what i do, and will soon be moving to WiFi Tether or whatever the app is called. I'm merely pointing out that when Verizon changed the tiers and ditched unlimited they also restructured how tethering and mobile hotspot plans work. Instead of them being additions to data plans they are now their own new packages. ie a package is "2GB data + MHS". this means if you have grandfathered unlimited and for some stupid reason you want to waste money paying verizon for a feature that's standard in all android phones then you'd be changing your data package to a new one, and losing unlimited data.
at least, this is how it was explained to me by a supposed verizon rep and how i understood it on the internal memo describing the changes to sales reps that was leaked before the changes were announced. |
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| said by Somnambul33t:at least, this is how it was explained to me by a supposed verizon rep and how i understood it on the internal memo describing the changes to sales reps that was leaked before the changes were announced.
That's how I understood it as well.
My wife and I pay about $160 month for the basic voice plan + unlimited 3G per phone (we each have a Droid).
There was a topic in this month's PC World that got me thinking about ditching a voice plan:
I am heavily considering moving to the Walmart 100mins + unlimited (really, 5GB) web and text ($30/mo) on the tmobile network and using Skype ($9/mo) to make phone calls. The only downside is you can only make calls in 3G/4G areas or in wifi. For urgent calls, you still get the 100min, and I don't think they'll stop an emergency/911 call if you are out of minutes.
Here's the math:
VZW one-time phone cost (average $100 per phone upgrade every 2 years): $200
Monthly: $160 ($3840 over two years)
Total: $4040
Avg per mo: $168.3
Wal-Mart one-time phone cost ($200 per phone): $400
Monthly: $80 ($30 per phone data and $9 per phone Skype; $1920 over two years)
Total: $2320
Avg per mo: $96.6
So I'd save about $72 a month or $1720 over 24 months.
It'd sure be nice if VZW offered a similar package, but I don't expect that to happen. The barrier against switching is the ETF, but since my contract is up this Spring, I may make the switch.
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"this means if you have grandfathered unlimited and for some stupid reason you want to waste money paying verizon for a feature that's standard in all android phones then you'd be changing your data package to a new one, and losing unlimited data"
Here is my real-world experience. For about five years prior to this past December, I had a BlackBerry with an unlimited data plan and "mobile broadband connect" which allowed me to tether the Blackberry to a PC. Mobile broadband connect was a $15 monthly charge. When the Samsung Galaxy Nexus was announced in December, I ordered one. I was able to RETAIN my unlimited data plan at the same rate as on the BlackBerry. Mobile broadband connect was not available with the Galaxy Nexus, so I had to change to "mobile hotspot" to maintain functionality similar to what I had. The new charge for mobile hotspot is $30 monthly. My net change is $15/mo. more than what I paid for the BlackBerry services. I ordered the Galaxy Nexus online and did not deal with a human to effect the service change. |
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| said by kingfisher:"this means if you have grandfathered unlimited and for some stupid reason you want to waste money paying verizon for a feature that's standard in all android phones then you'd be changing your data package to a new one, and losing unlimited data"
Here is my real-world experience. For about five years prior to this past December, I had a BlackBerry with an unlimited data plan and "mobile broadband connect" which allowed me to tether the Blackberry to a PC. Mobile broadband connect was a $15 monthly charge. When the Samsung Galaxy Nexus was announced in December, I ordered one. I was able to RETAIN my unlimited data plan at the same rate as on the BlackBerry. Mobile broadband connect was not available with the Galaxy Nexus, so I had to change to "mobile hotspot" to maintain functionality similar to what I had. The new charge for mobile hotspot is $30 monthly. My net change is $15/mo. more than what I paid for the BlackBerry services. I ordered the Galaxy Nexus online and did not deal with a human to effect the service change.
interesting. MHS is $30/mo? damn. i pay $0/mo. i couldnt recommend any of those tethering/hotspot services to anyone unless they were on a business account you werent paying for. complete rip-off when there are free and/or $15 apps paid one time that do the exact same thing.
I thought VZW charged $15/mo each for tethering and mobile hotspot, but i still thought they removed them from being additions to data plans and instead for part of data plans themselves. |
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