kenze
join:2009-10-09
Montreal, QC | reply to Acanac Inc
Re: Velcom, Acanac, price change, when ? said by Acanac Inc:We will have set minimums based on the max speed. Please keep in mind that the minimum will be the worst case scenario.
I'm sure most wouldn't care if you throttled everyone to 15mbps during peak hours if you charge us only 45$ 
Like jf mentionned, you could call it "lower speed limit during peak hours" on your website and everyone would be on board I think.
Anyhow, I'm looking forward to see what you have in store for us. |
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Your assuming our plans will cost the same or more than our competitors.
I am sure most of you have already seen the tariffs. The costs to ISP for a 15Mbps plan or a 30Mbps are not that different.
The real costs are during peak usage. If we can limit or reduce these cost while still allowing clients to use such service as Netfix and IPTV it's a win for everyone. This means you can end up using TB's per month without costing Acanac a single extra penny. These were the same arguments we put before the CRTC when fighting UBB. |
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jfmezeiPremium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22 Reviews:
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said by Acanac Inc: The last time you here it from me.
And a few lines later...
The throttling idea might be our plan of action however nothing
So Acanac now has its own IP subnets on Cable ? How you considered a separate TPIA customer (who shares POI links with Distributel) or does Distributel supply cable with 2 IP pools and when a customer signs up, they specify from which IP pool that customer should be provisioned on the DHCP side ? |
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kenze
join:2009-10-09
Montreal, QC | reply to Acanac Inc
said by Acanac Inc:Your assuming our plans will cost the same or more than our competitors.
I am sure most of you have already seen the tariffs. The costs to ISP for a 15Mbps plan or a 30Mbps are not that different.
The real costs are during peak usage. If we can limit or reduce these cost while still allowing clients to use such service as Netfix and IPTV it's a win for everyone. This means you can end up using TB's per month without costing Acanac a single extra penny. These were the same arguments we put before the CRTC when fighting UBB.
I totally understand and I support your plan of lowering bandwidth at peak hours but only if the customers can reap the benefits of this as well.
According to what I read so far, Acanac wants to offer value to their customers.
Officially, what does that mean? Can we expect an unlimited 30mbps plan of the sort for less, around the same or more money than the competitors capped plans? |
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said by jfmezei:said by Acanac Inc: The last time you here it from me.
And a few lines later... The throttling idea might be our plan of action however nothing
Obviously, it wasn't the last time I heard it from you So Acanac now has its own IP subnets on Cable ? How you considered a separate TPIA customer (who shares POI links with Distributel) or does Distributel supply cable with 2 IP pools and when a customer signs up, they specify from which IP pool that customer should be provisioned on the DHCP side ? The IP's are shared across Distributel and Acanac. We do not have our own subnet. We will be doing our max speeds based on the IP and Mac address. We can identify the client by the MAC and IP alone. This will mean that Distributel clients will not have their plans speeds lowered while Acanac ones will. |
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jfmezeiPremium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
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| Does the Rogers system's little DNS server give you the Mac address of the modem or of the device which issued the DHCP request ?
If it gives you a MAC address of the device that made the DHCP request, you are talking about CPE equipment which can easily be changed or spoofed so people would easily bypass your rate limit by changing the ethernet address of their router. |
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jfmezeiPremium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22 Reviews:
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| BTW, I personally don't have problems with one ISP providing a rate limit as a means to control bandwidth during peak hours.
It is all about choices and competition, and those new rates are certaintly giving ISPs a lot of motivation to innovate in how they implement rate structures and this is good for competition.
Caveat: I have no problems with rate limits to bring speeds down to 15 mbps. But below 15mbps, I would need some convincing. |
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 alienzzzKill Bell
join:2011-02-17
Verdun, QC
·TekSavvy DSL
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| said by jfmezei:Caveat: I have no problems with rate limits to bring speeds down to 15 mbps. But below 15mbps, I would need some convincing.
To be honest, I think that even lowering it to 8 is still not that bad as long as it's done for the minimum amount of time necessary... It's still a very decent rate that allows you to stream in HD and download reasonably fast.
And considering how used we are to Bhell's years and years of 5056 kbit sync rates, it's still twice as fast. |
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Considering Distributel is offering the unlimited 15Mbps for 60$ and that a 30Mbps that is reduced to 15Mbps during peak time is still better than a 15Mbps connection, I think a price around 65$ would be reasonable. If the price of Acanac 30Mbps is inferior to Distributel 15Mbps, it would make no sence to sign up with Distributel. |
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kenze
join:2009-10-09
Montreal, QC | said by levesque739:Considering Distributel is offering the unlimited 15Mbps for 60$ and that a 30Mbps that is reduced to 15Mbps during peak time is still better than a 15Mbps connection, I think a price of 65$ would be reasonable. If the price of Acanac 30Mbps is inferior to Distributel 15Mbps, it would make no sence to sign up with Distributel.
Distributel is overpriced and not such a good value for the money and they know it.
Like Acanac said "The real costs are during peak usage".
It already doesn't make sense for most people to go with Distributel.. for 5$ less you can get a 60mbps connection with a huge cap from Ebox. |
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Just to give everyone an idea of how our pricing structure will look like here is a quick preview of our DSL offerings. Our new unlimited 6Mbps promo will cost $32.95 based on a one year term.
The lowest profile we will reduce you line too will be 3Mbps. |
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Samgee
join:2010-08-02
canada
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| said by Acanac Inc:Just to give everyone an idea of how our pricing structure will look like here is a quick preview of our DSL offerings. Our new unlimited 6Mbps promo will cost $32.95 based on a one year term.
The lowest profile we will reduce you line will be 3Mbps.
Oh you tease. Just post them all! |
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grunze510
join:2009-02-14
Cote Saint-Luc, QC
kudos:1 | said by Samgee:said by Acanac Inc:Just to give everyone an idea of how our pricing structure will look like here is a quick preview of our DSL offerings. Our new unlimited 6Mbps promo will cost $32.95 based on a one year term.
The lowest profile we will reduce you line will be 3Mbps.
Oh you tease. Just post them all! I'd rather teasing than silence. At least he acknowledges that we exist. |
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kenze
join:2009-10-09
Montreal, QC | reply to Acanac Inc
said by Acanac Inc:Just to give everyone an idea of how our pricing structure will look like here is a quick preview of our DSL offerings. Our new unlimited 6Mbps promo will cost $32.95 based on a one year term.
The lowest profile we will reduce you line too will be 3Mbps.
that's a good start for DSL. Too bad we are all aching for high speed cable in Quebec :P |
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kenze
join:2009-10-09
Montreal, QC | reply to grunze510
said by grunze510:I'd rather teasing than silence. At least he acknowledges that we exist.
Definitely, a certain other company needs to re-learn the basics of customer service. |
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jfmezeiPremium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22 Reviews:
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| said by kenze:Definitely, a certain other company needs to re-learn the basics of customer service.
What other company could you possibly be refering to ?
Rate limiting a 6mbps link down to 3 is not good for me. But I have no problem with a company offering this, as long as this is made quite clear before the customers sign up.
It is great to see many different offerings, even within the same group of companies to cater to different users/needs/budgets. To this end, the new CRTC rate structure has achieved its goal of fostering competition and innovation in pricing. |
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What if the 30Mbps plan is as cost effect as a 15Mbps. What if your 30Mbps plan is only throttled down to 15Mbps during peak hours.
In cases like these the choices are very easy to make. Any client ordering a 15Mbps would be better off ordering a 30Mbps plan even though it's throttled. After all it will only be throttled for 5 hours per day.
very interesting concept. Are you going to apply this to Qc cable too? I guess the prices we see on your website have not been updated yet. Do you know when they will be? |
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grunze510
join:2009-02-14
Cote Saint-Luc, QC
kudos:1 | said by decranez:What if the 30Mbps plan is as cost effect as a 15Mbps. What if your 30Mbps plan is only throttled down to 15Mbps during peak hours.
In cases like these the choices are very easy to make. Any client ordering a 15Mbps would be better off ordering a 30Mbps plan even though it's throttled. After all it will only be throttled for 5 hours per day.
very interesting concept. Are you going to apply this to Qc cable too? I guess the prices we see on your website have not been updated yet. Do you know when they will be? That's exactly what we've been talking about. |
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So today is the DAY ... can't wait !
Lets see those numbers ! |
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flafson
join:2003-10-04
Thornhill, ON | said by BigBenBeaub:So today is the DAY ... can't wait !
Lets see those numbers !
Funny you should want to see what Paul has to say after you thrashed his pricing structure a few pages back |
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