jfmezeiPremium
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Re: CNOC's Part 1 Filing on the 703/704 tariffs CRTC has issued a process letter. Have not read it yet, but it will determine if I will need large quantities of Red Bull this weekend or later  |
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jfmezeiPremium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22 | OK, here is the meat:
Deadline moved from 6th to 13th of february. Final replies allowed by everyone, not just CNOC, and due Feb 28th and not the 16th. |
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 andybPremium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
kudos:1 | To much reading to day.I need a beer |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
join:2009-06-15
START&Cogeco
kudos:6 | reply to jfmezei
said by jfmezei:Deadline moved from 6th to 13th of february. Final replies allowed by everyone, not just CNOC, and due Feb 28th and not the 16th.
THIS JUST IN :
CRTC Imitates Groundhog
OK, everyone exhale now. |
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andybPremium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
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CNOC files something.Havent looked at it yet
Edit:Its to do with capacity charges,labour rates etc of various ISP's
 Letter to Jo···inal.pdf 47451 bytes
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
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2 edits | said by andyb:CNOC files something. - Havent looked at it yet.
It's to do with capacity charges,labour rates etc of various ISP's
Basically, the CNOC questioned the Cablecos' Rates' Spread for CBB, and asked the CRTC to review all of the respective #####s to see why there is such a wide disparity in these rates, given the similar technology among providers of this type of service delivery.
This question very much DID need to be formally asked.
CNOC deserves a round of TimBits !
EDIT : In more detailed review of the doc, I noticed 2 things :
(1) Their 1st question was not so much about the spread of the various providers' CBB rates themselves (though that question hopefully has been asked too, and DOES deserve much more clarity in an answer), but instead about the service charges for an IISP changing what they want in HS links and CBB capacity.
(2) There were quite a few more questions following the first one.
OK, TWO rounds of TimBits.... |
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grunze510
join:2009-02-14
Cote Saint-Luc, QC
kudos:1 | said by Davesnothere:Basically, the CNOC questioned the Cablecos' Rates' Spread for CBB, and asked the CRTC to review all of the respective #####s to see why there is such a wide disparity in these rates, given the similar technology among providers of this type of service delivery. *cough*Co*Cough*geco*Cough*. Sorry about that. |
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 MerovingianCause and Effect
join:2011-03-31
Toronto, ON
kudos:1 | reply to andyb
Page 8 of that Letter to John Traversy number 30 re: POI Upgrades, is interesting to note.
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| I doubt the CRTC can force cablecos to do stuff any faster than three months since that is the typical lead time from equipment manufacturers. Forcing incumbents to provide shorter upgrade implementation times would mean additional costs and associated risks for stocking extra spares specifically for wholesale. |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
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kudos:6 | reply to grunze510
said by grunze510:*cough*Co*Cough*geco*Cough*. Sorry about that.
Spit it out !
What're ya trying to say ?
Cough-geco ?
A new nickname ?
Or just a need for some Buckley's and/or Benylin ? 
(Some of the best discoveries were made by accident.) |
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jfmezeiPremium
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| So, you place an order for 6 additional GigE. This is below the 11 gigE limit at whih point the 3 montsh delay kicks in. The next month, you order 5 additional gigEs. Again, this is below the 11 limit.
So in the end, you've gotten you 11 extra GigEs faster by splitting your order in two and spreading them over 2 months. |
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 mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | said by jfmezei:So, you place an order for 6 additional GigE. This is below the 11 gigE limit at whih point the 3 montsh delay kicks in. The next month, you order 5 additional gigEs. Again, this is below the 11 limit.
So in the end, you've gotten you 11 extra GigEs faster by splitting your order in two and spreading them over 2 months.
This is assuming that Rogers books all the upgrade orders on time, hardware additions/replacements come in on schedule and the technicians perform the work as soon as both of those are done. |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
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said by jfmezei:So, you place an order....
If an IISP is growing THAT fast, they can AFFORD an in-house logistician to make sure that they know things such as that. |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
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kudos:6 | reply to Davesnothere
I have now completed my 1st read of today's CNOC letter to CRTC, and I'm impressed in a positive manner.
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Let me just add that CNOC seems to have some very sharp legal minds on their team, IMNSHO. |
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jfmezeiPremium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22 | Just a heads up that today, the 13th is the deadline for filing initial comments on the CNOC part 1. Expect a number of filings today. |
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jfmezeiPremium
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| Cable Carrier's response to CNOC: |
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
join:2006-08-30
HarperLand
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Paragraph 9 discusses the cost of Line cards, I don't understand the argument. Yes prices come down, but as you buy it, a line card bought to day, will be more expensive then one next year, but I'd have to base my costs on the one I bought today.
If there is a mechanism to average out the costs, that would be reasonable.
They also seem to be objecting to the 3yr term. Well hell, while I have no idea what cost are involved, there would be no way I'd make an investment like that for a month to month client.
Another section makes me laugh, Rogers is in court for the right to lie, but doesn't want anyone to use their name without their permission.
Oh boy.
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No, I didn't. Honest... I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake....... |
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jfmezeiPremium
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| Shaw's submission |
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May be Rogers CS rep can now STFU while bad mouthing their TPIA wholesalers or that the TPIA wholesalers can't put the blame on Rogers every time their customer complain!?
This has some interesting side effects on the professionalism side of things.... |
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| JF has to trademark his line of products about a certain ISP he can't name to cover a certain vendor we can't name or a certain wholesaler we can't name! |
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