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jmn1207
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[NCAA-F] BCS Championship

I knew that this game was going to be a bit of a drag, even for an old school fan of the draw play and the fullback. This game is just not very good. Both teams haven't seen any legitimate action in well over a month, and it shows. Great defenses, which I love, but the offenses are just ok, and with such a long layoff, they are rusty and certainly not in top form.

I would have changed the channel, but nowadays everything I watch is recorded, and live sports is about the only thing I have the patience to sit through. If I didn't have a DVR, I would have checked in on this game during the commercials of the show I was actually enjoying.

It would be perfect, to me, if this super-thin spreading of meaningless bowl games proves to be a bad move by the NCAA. Dragging out these exhibition games (yes even the subjective BCS "championship") well into January is a mistake, and one I can only hope impacts the pocketbooks of these greedy bastards.

This weekend's NFL playoff games were fantastic. These were exciting games with plenty of action, and every contest meant something tangible. These were not simply glorified advertisements partially supported by the guise of some quasi-important event, these were all win-or-go-home battles for survival, with everything at stake. I never thought that I would prefer the NFL to college football, but I think this is the point where I have to admit that the NFL is a far better product. This is coming from a Redskins fan. Yup.


mod_wastrel
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This is the game, the match-up that will propel us into the first steps of a playoff: +1. (I'm not watching it... no interest in seeing what I expected to happen actually happen. Two evenly matched teams playing twice? one wins the first, the other wins the second--that's the way it usually goes. But, he who wins last, wins "most".)
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jmn1207
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You aren't missing much. It's 15-0, Alabama, and LSU has not been past the 50-yard line all night. A 15 point lead in this game is a 5 possession advantage...a route, if you will.



dogma
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said by mod_wastrel:

(I'm not watching it... no interest in seeing what I expected to happen actually happen. Two evenly matched teams playing twice? one wins the first, the other wins the second--that's the way it usually goes. But, he who wins last, wins "most".)

...and he who can't win his own conference championship and he who is one-loss like 7 other teams, can win a (Bogus) National Title Championship as long as he is in a conference with a $5 Billion TeeeVeee contract.

What a sham this is.


NOCTech75
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In the immortal words of Sean Connery, "Suck on it BCS, suck it long and suck it hard."

Bullshit Championship Series has lived upto it's name. Div 1 college football is a disgrace.



shaner
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reply to jmn1207
Y'know, I'm of the age when the National Championship was decided on New Years Day. Waiting more than a week past New Years just takes all the wind out of the sails. Everyone has gone back to work. Holidays are over. New Years NEEDS to be the day. Have a triple header. One game after the other, capped with a prime time National Championship game.

Here's my rant...I didn't even know the Cotton Bowl still existed. Or the Sugar Bowl or the Citrus Bowl and even the Orange Bowl. Why? Well, for one, the proliferation of corporate bowl games has diluted the field. The other reason is they messed with the date. New Years Day is bowl day.
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Completely agree Shaner, hence why Div 1 CFB went from a mostly joke to a complete joke. The first part of the joke are all the bowls which have gone from 15ish when we were growing up to anyone can fuckin get in 35 bowl games. Then of course you have this Bullshit Championship Series where "every regular season game matters" (yet this year the last couple didn't for LSU and Alabama) which was supposed to prevent split national championships and we are looking at the very real possibility of that happening.

And you are right, now it's the GoDaddy.com Bukkake Clean Up With Swiffer Presented by Hertz with backing by Dodge powered by GE Cotton Bowl.



e_dub
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That all!


shaner
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What does an elephant have to do with an algae bloom?



bruin23
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quote:
Miles even made the case postgame that LSU should be in consideration for the AP title based on its season-long body of work, including the previous triumph over Alabama.

“That’s for the voters to figure,” Miles said.

When the coach of a team that was shut out in the championship game is arguing that he should win the championship anyway, the system is an unqualified disaster.
»rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n···e_010912

Didn't watch the game at all and from what I've read about it, seems like it was a total dud. At least we can take solace in knowing that this disaster took us in a (hopefully) major step in the direction of some kind of playoff.


dogma
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said by bruin23:

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When the coach of a team that was shut out in the championship game is arguing that he should win the championship anyway, the system is an unqualified disaster.

On paper, LSU should be the "BcS" Champs:
LSU finished the season 13-1 beating 8 out of 9 top 25 ranked teams that they played.

Alabama has less wins overall. At 12-1, they only had to beat 4 out of 5 ranked teams on their schedule.

Since the so-called "strength of schedule" and "body of work" is important in the rankings, and "margin of victory" is ignored during the regular season, LSU should be the BcS Champ. But the same ranking logic that ostensibly pits the top 2 teams after a full season of play, is tossed out the window for the last game in this farce of a system.

Unfortunately, there is only one remaining road to a true play off (and a real Champion) and that's via Super Conferences. We already have a first round since most existing conferences host a conference championship game now. As soon as one of the conferences gets 20 teams under it's belt, they will need to host two rounds in order to confirm a conference champ. Once we get to this milestone for at least 3 super conferences, it will be easy for a Corporate syndicate to step in and sponsor the final 2 rounds.

But we're talking probably 12 more years or so.


mod_wastrel
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reply to bruin23
The winner of the BCS title game (there is no NCAA "championship game" for FBS, therefore no "champion") is the winner of the BCS title. The voting is used only to determine who gets into the game. The "system" (and I use the term loosely) is what it has always been: a means for making more money (which is its one success). The AP, however, is not part of the BCS.
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said by mod_wastrel:

The AP, however, is not part of the BCS.

AP has Alabama as #1.


Drex
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Being a Tigers fan, I must say that was the most painful 3 quarters of football I've ever had to endure watching (yes, I turned it off after 3 quarters).

I will hand it to Bama, they put it to the Tigers. They most certainly came to play "Big Boy" football.

Congrats to Alabama. You were obviously the better coached team this time.
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e_dub
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I will go out on a limb and say the SEC will win their 7th straight title next year, with LSU leading the way. They're losing basically no one.



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said by e_dub:

I will go out on a limb and say the SEC will win their 7th straight title next year, with LSU leading the way. They're losing basically no one.

Thankfully we're losing our quarterback.
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said by Drex:

said by e_dub:

I will go out on a limb and say the SEC will win their 7th straight title next year, with LSU leading the way. They're losing basically no one.

Thankfully we're losing our quarterback.



mod_wastrel
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The only real question was whether they'd place LSU at #2 or lower. #1 was never in question (unless you're a Mad Hatter).

(No, I haven't looked--not interested.)
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Lowest rated BCS title game in history:
»content.usatoday.com/communities···rating/1

ESPN's BCS title game Monday drew a 13.8 overnight rating -- the lowest rating in the BCS system's 14-year history.

That 13.8 translates to 13.8% of households in the 56 urban markets measured for overnights. The previous record low was a 14.3 for Miami-Nebraska at the 2002 Rose Bowl. Last night's game was down 14% from last year's Auburn-Oregon title game on ESPN and down 24% from Alabama-Texas on Fox in 2010.

CAPTIONBy CHERYL GERBER, AP Iimages for Allstate
The new low isn't surprising. Alabama's 21-0 win was less-than-suspenseful, both schools are from relatively sparsely-populated states and from the same conference -- and there wasn't much controversy surrounding the game. And the schools had already played earlier this season in an overtime game where neither team scored a touchdown. CBS coverage of that game drew an 11.9 overnight

Coming into the title game, ESPN's BCS ratings were already down 10%.



bruin23
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reply to dogma

said by dogma:

said by bruin23:

quote:
When the coach of a team that was shut out in the championship game is arguing that he should win the championship anyway, the system is an unqualified disaster.

On paper, LSU should be the "BcS" Champs:
LSU finished the season 13-1 beating 8 out of 9 top 25 ranked teams that they played.

Alabama has less wins overall. At 12-1, they only had to beat 4 out of 5 ranked teams on their schedule.

Since the so-called "strength of schedule" and "body of work" is important in the rankings, and "margin of victory" is ignored during the regular season, LSU should be the BcS Champ. But the same ranking logic that ostensibly pits the top 2 teams after a full season of play, is tossed out the window for the last game in this farce of a system.

Unfortunately, there is only one remaining road to a true play off (and a real Champion) and that's via Super Conferences. We already have a first round since most existing conferences host a conference championship game now. As soon as one of the conferences gets 20 teams under it's belt, they will need to host two rounds in order to confirm a conference champ. Once we get to this milestone for at least 3 super conferences, it will be easy for a Corporate syndicate to step in and sponsor the final 2 rounds.

But we're talking probably 12 more years or so.

Of course, this just shows how ridiculous the BCS is. There isn't a single other sport out there where a team can argue that it should still be the champion, based on its regular season performance, after losing the championship game.
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