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Re: I want to use Charter, but..... The only contention I had/have with the fiber not terminating near my address is that it wasnt a monetary issue until the tech saw the loc of my house. SO, from that Id say that is something that shouldnt play into a cost on my behalf. What has to be done unside my property lines I fully understand, to a degree. The sales and tech, over the phone, where like 'Oh yeah! Sure! No problem! We can get you setup ASAP! Now its different, again simply due to the dist of my house to the public road.
Im confident we can work something out either way.
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 Killa200Premium
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said by cablegeek01:I think I found what you need. The key to this would be burrying your own fiber and having charter connect this to their plant....but it's feasible.
»www.rf2f.com/
You're going to want to go to your local office, and discuss this with the Tech-Ops manager, or Tech-Ops supervisor.
It is highly improbably that a cable tech is going to let that onto their system, especially a cable corp like charter. That thing needs to be on a feeder line. |
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said by rippentorn:The only contention I had/have with the fiber not terminating near my address is that it wasnt a monetary issue until the tech saw the loc of my house. SO, from that Id say that is something that shouldnt play into a cost on my behalf. What has to be done unside my property lines I fully understand, to a degree. The sales and tech, over the phone, where like 'Oh yeah! Sure! No problem! We can get you setup ASAP! Now its different, again simply due to the dist of my house to the public road.
Im confident we can work something out either way.
-Ripp
I wonder if you agreed to a Business account contract if Charter would put a new node at your location and you could split the costs of the node over the contract? |
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Could you build a small little hut to hold a modem and directional router/antennae next to the road? Use a very powerful receiver in the home to match it? You would still need power by your driveway though.
I have an EnGenius 11N wireless USB adapter and can see strong connections from the other end of my block that are well over 500 feet away. I havent measured exactly, but with a very strong router and antennae combo, you might have a chance with that and avoid the whole driveway issue |
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| said by grayem:Could you build a small little hut to hold a modem and directional router/antennae next to the road? Use a very powerful receiver in the home to match it? You would still need power by your driveway though.
I have an EnGenius 11N wireless USB adapter and can see strong connections from the other end of my block that are well over 500 feet away. I havent measured exactly, but with a very strong router and antennae combo, you might have a chance with that and avoid the whole driveway issue
»www.c-cor.com/broadband_access/f···0106.pdf
this would be his best bet as it is meant for situations like this and Charter uses CCOR stuff in Fort Worth but it will be a hard sale as they are using Aurora NC4000 nodes now for new node installs. |
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That is definately something I could consider. I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the idea there. |
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| If that's fiber and not coax then you'll be looking at a very large amount of money to get service at your house, for several reasons.
Firstly you'd have to go to the nearest splice point on the fiber or do a ring-cut, then run fiber to a node near your house. At around $20,000/mile, it's not cheap. Then there's the node itself which is a few grand, plus the cost of any trunk/feeder coax if they don't put the node right next to your house. The other thing to consider is that using a dark (unused) fiber eats up a spare fiber, which is a commodity for Charter. Also, that fiber might be a backhaul link going between headends and not carrying service to nodes. It may not even be usable, especially if there is only one or two spare fibers in that run.
Then you actually have to feed the node from something. This requires combining equipment at the headend, plus an optical transmitter and receiver. You're looking at anywhere from $1500 to $4000 depending on how far you are from the headend. Plus labor.
Basically, if you don't already have cable it is usually because at some point it was determined that it was not economically feasable to make an investment in running it to your area, usually because of low population density. And that logic holds true unless a large suburb is built nearby or something. In many cases Charter (or whoever) won't have a problem spending the money to run service to you as long as they have some sort of guarantee that they won't lose money on the deal. If they figure it will cost them $30,000 to run it to 50 customers each paying $100 a month, they'll break even fairly quickly. But to do it for just one person, it could take decades for them to turn a profit with no guarantee that you'll even keep the service that long.
I have read on other threads about people paying the money up front but having the amount credited on their account, so you don't have a bill until the cost of the installation is paid off, and if you ever cancel your service they already have their money. That might be something you could negotiate with them. |
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 nunyaWho is John Galt?Premium,MVM
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I'd build a doghouse by the road. Put a solar panel on the roof (all y'all youins are in Texas, after all), and shoot the 1000' with inexpensive 2.4 GHz radios (such as Ubiquity).
That will get you broadband. You can still get video by satellite.
Trenching in 1000 ft of conduit would be a rough job.
Curious - why not just get DSL again? I would think even crap DSL would be better than satellite BB.
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| I had DSL before moving here, Im about 11 miles from my nearest CO. I also would rather do cable TV as well.
I had considered the doghouse before, but it has to be weather hardy equipment. It is on the list of options. |
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The cable company was/is willing to setup cable without a qualm if my house was by the road. They send us fliers in the mail. I live in a rural area but there are large neighborhoods within a few miles in every direction. So, generally, the area isnt densely populated but its not sparse either. Ive got a dozen neighbors on the street, across the street. |
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Killa200Premium
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Southeast TN | reply to rippentorn
If your going by "willing to setup service" by the flyers, those are usually automated mailers that just plaster an entire service area, and then they work out the details as the people call in. |
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If it was me and I wanted that bad, I would simply buy a weatherproof box and a router and mount it on a tree and daisy change a series of switches to the house sure it would a a few hundred bucks but you would have the internet without all the extra aggrevation. |
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maybe you could split that 7 grand with your neighbors? |
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