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Re: Any consumer routers that can do routing? Sorry, I have a straight Ethernet, no xDSL, no PPPoE. (-: I am not using 2Wire PoS at all. Nada. No 2Wire anymore. I connect directly to the Alcatel HONT-C. The setup I'm describing would not be possible with 2Wire in the picture; AFAIK, it's not possible especially with VDSL U-verse.
For the sake of completeness of discussion, I highly doubt that you're bypassing 2Wire's firewall limitations even with your enterprise-level Cisco setup. See »leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchiv···074.html for details regarding the fact that the SPI firewall on 2Wire U-verse cannot be turned off for real. |
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| reply to ConstantineM
Lots of cheap consumer "routers" can _route_. There's no "nat on/off" box, but there usually is an advanced setting somewhere labeled "gateway mode" or something similar to switch between nat an non-nat operating modes. If the thing runs linux, it's an absolutely trival thing to change, if you can get to a commandline.
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| reply to ConstantineM
said by ConstantineM:The Netgate m1n1wall 2D3 / 2D13 Red seems nice (love the colour!), until you see that it doesn't even have GigE, or any WiFi.
What kind of routing speed are you looking for? The m1n1wall has more CPU muscle than the WNR3500L that you're looking at. Just because the Netgear has GBE ports doesn't mean it's going to forward packets at gig speeds, but you probably knew that. Gig switches aren't expensive if you need gig LAN speed.
Which brings us back to the question, why haven't you tried Tomato on that Netgear yet? It does what you want to do (unless griping about ZyXEL is what you want to do; maybe there's Tomato optware for that), and if you can install OpenBSD then you can install Tomato.
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join:2001-07-16
Dartmouth, NS
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If you want to get technical anyway, Mitrastar handles the telco and consumer products and ODM products and Zyxel has kept the business class routers and switches. |
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| reply to clarknova
Do I want the Tomato? And if so, which one? said by clarknova:said by ConstantineM:The Netgate m1n1wall 2D3 / 2D13 Red seems nice (love the colour!), until you see that it doesn't even have GigE, or any WiFi.
What kind of routing speed are you looking for? The m1n1wall has more CPU muscle than the WNR3500L that you're looking at. Just because the Netgear has GBE ports doesn't mean it's going to forward packets at gig speeds, but you probably knew that. Gig switches aren't expensive if you need gig LAN speed. Which brings us back to the question, why haven't you tried Tomato on that Netgear yet? It does what you want to do (unless griping about ZyXEL is what you want to do; maybe there's Tomato optware for that), and if you can install OpenBSD then you can install Tomato. Yes, I've seen the test results on SmallNetBuilder.com for various products, and I only really need sub-40Mbps forwarding at the moment anyways — right now my HSI is artificially limited to 18Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up by AT&T. However, as a home user, it's still somewhat hard to justify spending 225,00 + 15,81 shipping (or 205,00 + 15,81 if buying unassembled) for something that has so little power underneath it, and so little network upgrade potential; yes, it'll probably do the advertised 85 Mbps forwarding / NAT etc, but still — I'm not staying with AT&T forever! :-p
The reason I haven't tried Tomato is that I just haven't gotten to it yet, and, besides, I didn't think that my setup is special enough to warrant it not being doable with stock firmwares.
Is Toastman's Tomato better for my needs than DD-WRT or OpenWrt? So many options out there (DD-WRT, OpenWrt, Tomato), with each having so many suboptions (Toatman's Tomato, DD-WRT Kong Mod etc), plus the suboptions within the suboptions (the latest 2012-01-10 version of Toastman's Tomato for WNR3500L alone has "w/ USB (Ext)" and "(Std)" versions; why?), without much information on the differences or the exact set of features. Which one do I want for my WNR3500L? It is a v1 from a mid-2011 batch, so there should not be any surprises with lack of support as is the case with the WNR3500Lv2. |
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Re: Any consumer routers that can do routing? Stop drinking the SF kool-aid. There's no reason why any of the consumer routers could do what you want. you seem to be fixated on packet forwarding. Your question has been answered many times and all the devices can handle what you want to accomplish it. This thread has gone far beyond to answer your questions.
Install either or all the choices and see which flavor floats your boat. The favoritism of one over the other won't make you like one over the other. |
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