World of Warcraft → [PvP] I know it's Arena but......

Ok for one it's not the nicest thing to do to people in arenas...

But I will have to give him props for actually staying stealth in an arena for the 45+ minutes.

So yeah it may be a shitty thing to do in arenas, but so is playing the two most OP classes at the time just to blow through every team.

I'm fairly certain snuff is a good guy who does bad things in-game because he lacks other outlets.

I personally do not believe it is fair to consider avoiding being brought out of stealth as a "bad" thing.

Aggravating/Exasperating IRL is completely different than "Griefing" in-game trying not to be killed in arena.

Your still doing the same thing

--Asking for a coffee at the local coffee shop. Invariably, they will take my order and say "Is that everything?". To which I reply "Haven't I stopped speaking?"

We never pop out of stealth - we grab Shadowsight and immediately vanish, sap

--Placing 2 items on the conveyor belt at the local supermarket, letting them go to the end, then placing the remainder. The clerk will ask if this is a single order, and I say "Why would you ask?", and he will point to the seperation between items, and I point out that I don't control his conveyor belt.

We never pop out of stealth - we grab Shadowsight and immediately vanish, sap

--On a 4 lane street, pulling into the left side lane to pass a car, then slowing to match that cars speed, thus blocking cars behind me from passing either one of us.

We never pop out of stealth - we grab Shadowsight and immediately vanish, sap

It is not harrassment on WoW since at any time a person can just leave the arena.

Believe me, I'm coming at this very impartially but I have to say one could argue both intent and perception is that same on all accounts given in the comparisons above.

All actions referenced are forms of manipulation, designed to elicit a response

In an extreme sense, it's like arguing "you are a more despicable murderer than I am."

Well written by the way Arthritis.

You have to admit, these actions do get received negatively by players

It's kind of neat that both acts you are referencing throwing a baseball at someone in a game environment and throwing a bat at someone in a real world environment, as both are actually considered criminal acts.

I'm not admonishing you by any means, but as far as intent goes, I can't see the difference.

Or, to use your baseball analogy, wouldn't be like having a home-team coach refuse to score a tie-breaking run... just to see how long the game will go?

Answer this first:
Would it not be fair to consider teasing/nagging etc as "griefing" as well? ...I am giving someone a hard time, exactly like occurs between friends.

I'm not threatening potential jobs, physical harm, mocking, or being sarcastic like all of the previous examples.

Would it not be like leaving a loot window open on LFR simply to outwait a person because you want the loot more than they do? Only this requires skill to keep the finality from occuring.

anything over 10min of avoided combat in an arena match would disgust me.

The opposite can be true. If you've bored of arena since you're already 2k+ then you might troll for fun. While not common it will happen as just in this thread Snuff is 2k+ and said he trolls.

The argument is not justified by how easy/hard it is.
Rather, is it "wrong" for lack of a better word to "grief" the players by running Shadowcleave.