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[SWTOR] Best in PVP

PvP is difficult to gauge for the following reason:

Level 50 is different than 10 to 49
World PvP is different than Warzones
Lack Centurion / Champion / Battlemaster Gear makes a huge difference
All Warzones are very objective based

Just ignoring that shit you could make an argument that any class with a knock back is broken. Any class that can take advantage of environmental hazards is overpowered. Any class with stealth is imbalanced.

Snide remarks aside, it depends on if you're talking about World PvP or Warzones. If it is World PvP then it is going to be Stealth based classes. Ganking is easier, escapes are there, and most have a retarded amount of burst on their opener that makes a 1v1 fight almost always going in their favor.

If you're talking Warzones classes with knock backs and the ability to either jump to an ally or an enemy (Slutball I'm looking at you) are the best. Period. Your goal is to get the ball to the end zone, to cap the node, to plant the bomb. On the other two a strong 1v2 class with Stealth can accomplish the latter two but anyone can if the team is worth a shit.
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Sorry i was talking warzones more than world pvp however any input on either is great.

So far iv seen an abundant amount of Sith Assassins, Sith Warriors and Sith Scorcerers (and republics counterparts) in warzones however iv seen barely any IA's and bh's at all. Not sure if this was was an obvious indication that these were the best for warzones or that not alot of ppl are playing non force using classes at the moment.

If you want to know what I see in Warzones, that I can easily give you in order of popularity:

Republic & Sith

Sage & Sorcerer
Shadow & Assassins
Sentinel & Marauder
Guardian & Juggernaut
Troopers & Bounty Hunters (generally Power Tech / Commando)
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Scoundrel

Seriously, I've seen two Scoundrels, not counting myself, in I don't know how many fucking Warzones.

Edit:

I get actual "cheers" when the Republic sees me pop into a Warzone because I swear to god I must be the only fucking Scoundrel that PvPs on our server. My name is as notorious in the PvP scene as Myles cock ass is for being an overgeared piece of shit.
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reply to Fettuccine
With all the subclasses, its hard for me to recognize who is playing what, other than the obvious sorcerer/sage, knight/warrior.

if i see a bounty hunter in PvP, couldnt tell you what subclass he is.

Jedi Shadow is what I have been playing. As a level 11-14 in a warzone, you would think that because I have so few abilites and such horrible horrible gear I would be doing really poorly. I think all I have are some pants, a lightsaber, a cloak and boots? Maybe gloves...

Well, I am consistently in the middle of the pack, and always the lowest level player in Warzones. My shadowstrikes hit for 2500-3500 damage at times.

I have a DOT that rocks, an instant 10m ranged attack that hits for 1500 and I can stealth? Winning!

Im kind of delaying my push to 50 because i want to have max commendations ready to go. Im not going to grind all my shit at level 50, while everyone else got to feed off lowbies.

ada, think i finally put 2 and 2 together on how sage/sorc is so strong: expertise. Totally forgot theres a stat that gives you a straight pvp boost.
That, and stacking some surge rating, is how they are likely 2 shotting people.

reply to Fettuccine
Is there a reason SWTOR decided to go with all level warzones over wow's breakdown of bgs by every 10 levels or is this done because there arent enough ppl playing the game yet so they needed a way for quick queue times? At least they give out buffs but as Adalicia already stated seems pointless and incredibly unfair for a level 20 to try to take on a level 50. I liked wow's system better where you were gonna battle ppl your own level.

reply to Adalicia
Well, I am not too concerned about it really, mainly because D3 will be taking my time, and I dont really like the game. I dnot get a warm and fuzzy when I play it like I did with WoW or the first Modern Warfare.

reply to Fettuccine
remember hitting that new level bracket in wow, and getting totally owned?
Thats what it would be like without the level buff.
You have a better chance at level 10 vs a level 50 in SW, than you did as a level 50 vs a level 59, in wow.

Queue times are already really long for empire, if they bracketed it every 10 levels, most people wouldnt bother.

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reply to Fettuccine
So, some research has told me the following:

1.) Scoundrels / Operatives are over powered.
2.) Sages / Sorcerers are over powered.
3.) Sentinels / Marauders are over powered.
4.) Commandos / Mercenaries are over powered.

Now then:

1.) No they aren't.
2.) No they aren't.
3.) No they aren't.
4.) No they aren't.

I swear to god the PvP QQ machine is in high gear because now every where level 22's are getting rolled by 50's of every class in Champion / Battlemaster gear so they obviously assume the class that rolled them is broken.

Seriously:

1.) Burst and then worthless. Must have power up.
2.) Can be locked down. Should be focus fired.
3.) Retardedly high skill cap, player must have a metric fuck ton of skill to be good.
4.) Sustained damage but can be rolled as easily as anyone else.

Look at that? I also find it humorous when some dude is trying to say that despite he is in full Champion gear he got hit for 10.3K from a Scoundrel's Shoot First.

Bull. Fucking. Shit. Even with Battlemaster gear, the power up, and popping the Expertise consumable with an insane critical strike it'd literally be impossible, especially against someone else with Champion gear.

So anyway, your mileage may vary but don't buy into "class is OP" but rather take into consideration:

Your Level
Their Level
Your Gear
Their Gear
What Class They Are
What Mechanics They Have
How to Counter Them

I bitch a lot about Sorcerers, but that is because they have a large amount of sustained damage and so many different ways to keep me at distance. Do I think they're imbalanced? Probably not all things considered, level and gear make a huge difference. Can I kill one if I get the drop on them? Yep. Can I if I don't? Probably not.

Welcome to PvP.
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reply to Fettuccine
Given the general lag, ability lag, major FPS drop in pvp, and unoptimized graphics engine... any ranged class in open pvp.

Melee is whoever gets the first shot in wins.

Also fuck sages. Stupid overpowered asshole bubble...
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really, complaining about static barrier? 20 second cooldown(for all intents), that absorbs maybe 1000-1500 damage. And we dont even know if the ability scales with anything, sure dosent seem like it does.

If anything, i would expect people to complain about all the procs that allow us to dump huge amounts of damage on someone.

That has to be more than a 1k shield at 50.

reply to Tehuno
The Barrier, in my experience, certainly absorbs more than 1,500 damage.

I've had that dumb Barrier completely negate an entire Shoot First, which should be between 3,500 and 4,500 damage.
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Also, why do Shadow / Assassins (at least I assume Assassins) get a fucking Cloak of Skill type ability that wipes DoTs but Scoundrel players do not.

Is it because we have Triage? If so that is fucking dumb considering you have to be deep into Sawbones for it to cleanse everything, and it'll break Stealth if you use it while stealthed...
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