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Re: Eye Floaters-Anyone had or have them? Tebowitis a.k.a. being a Cry Baby...
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| reply to jabarnut said by jabarnut:But considering it would probably cost me a zillion dollars...and that's not including the cost to fly out to the west coast, or one of the other few places in the country where they are willing to shoot lasers into my eyes, not to mention the fact that I doubt very much my insurance could cover it, I suppose I'll just put up with it. The cost to me was about $2K an eye. And my insurance, one of the worst around, covered the procedure. Of course I had to meet the deductible and other such normal insurance issues. It is not considered a vision, such as eyeglasses, but a medical issue. And that is covered by health insurance.
Granted my procedure was not so much to correct the floaters, but to eliminate the stress on my retina. It started because of millions of floaters and they had to be removed.
If the floaters are adversely affecting your vision, and your doctor says so, the insurance should cover the procedure. Any retina surgeon should be able to do the procedure and I am sure there is a retina surgeon in your area. |
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 jmorlanHmm... That's funny.Premium,MVM join:2001-02-05 Pacifica, CA kudos:4 | reply to jabarnut Most of the information in this thread is correct.
If you saw an optometrist, I would not trust his/her opinion about your floaters. Yours are clearly quite bad and affecting quality of life. You definitely need to see an ophthalmologist. Get a referral from your primary care physician if you have one. Ophthalmologists normally do not see patients without a referral.
As we age, the vitreous tends to pull away from the retina. It is called "Posterior Vitreous Detachment" or PVD. This detachment can cause mild trauma and bleeding which result in floaters of varying sizes, shapes and densities. It also may result in flashes of light in the eye when it is dark, or you close your eyes. The bad news, is that if all you have is PVD, there is nothing you can reasonably do about it (more on this below). Most patients find that the floaters tend to dissolve eventually, although they may be replaced by new ones.
The problem is that these same symptoms can be signs of more serious eye problems such as retinal detachment (not to be confused with vitreous detachment). In retinal detachment, the back of the retina becomes detached from the wall of the eye. If untreated, it will lead to blindness.
So a good ophthalmologist will recommend that you always come in to get checked out if the floaters get worse. Only an ophthalmologist can reliably diagnose a retinal detachment or a retinal tear. Do not trust your optometrist.
It is true that a vitrectomy will get rid of those floaters, but it is a risky procedure and is normally recommended only if necessary to correct more serious problems such as retinal detachment, epiretinal membrane, or persistent vitreous retinopathy causing you to have a significantly impaired score on a vision test. A vitrectomy will also invariably result in a cataract in the eye in which the surgery was performed, so there will be not just one, but two surgeries. A second surgery is needed to replace the lens.
If your ophthalmologist thinks a vitrectomy is medically necessary, he/she will refer you to a retinal surgeon. It's very important that detached retinas be treated as soon as possible. The longer you wait, the less likely they will be able to save your vision.
I don't mean to be alarmist, but it sounds from your description that you may not have an actual retinal detachment, but you may have a retinal tear. These need to be treated. If they are minor, a retinal specialist can repair them in the office with a laser. If not treated, they can get worse and may lead to a retinal detachment.
Please see a good ophthalmologist soon. |
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 gaforcesUnited We Stand, Divided We Fall join:2002-04-07 Santa Cruz, CA | reply to jabarnut I had bright spots in my left eye some years ago. Went to the eye doctor, he did some tests and it turns out I have ocular histoplasmosis. It's caused by a fungal infection from bird poop in dirt. AKA valley fever, apparently this is prevalent in the central US only. I lived in ohio and kentucky for around 4 years.
I had to go to a specialist to confirm diagnosis, he said there was no cure and if I noticed it happen again to go to the eye doctor immediatly and they could do something while its happening. It has done macular degeneration and now where the bright spots were, I have dark spiders. Good luck to you and definitly go to see the eye doctor. -- Let them eat FIBER! |
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| reply to jabarnut I've had this problem for about 3 years now. I'm 33 years old. Needless to say it really freaked me out too. I have rather long floaters in both eyes. As someone mentioned, mine look like a hair under a microscope. They don't really float across my vision, but parts of it will change position depending on which direction I am looking (kind of like a tail that shifts position). I mentioned this to my eye Doc as well and he stated pretty much what everyone on here has said. That as we age these develop and unless you are seeing the bright flashes, it most likely isn't anything to worry about. I have also heard that these floaters can be a symptom of diabetes. Has anyone else heard this?
I agree with you jabarnut, I don't know how anyone can get used to these. They annoy me to no end. -- Don't worry, scro. There are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives. |
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 EUSKill cancerPremium join:2002-09-10 canada | Mine always get worse after reading this thread.
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 IT GuyOw, My BallsPremium join:2004-07-29 Las Cruces, NM | hypochondriac much? Ha ha! |
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 CylonRedPremium,MVM join:2000-07-06 Bloom County | The power of suggestion...  |
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 jabarnutLight Years AwayPremium,MVM join:2005-01-22 Galaxy M31 kudos:2 | reply to jabarnut While I realize this thread is over a couple of weeks old now, I felt the need to bring it back for a moment. I want to sincerely thank those of you (and in particular jmorlan for the excellent information in his post above), for suggesting I go see an Ophthalmologist, rather than trust what my Optometrist was telling me. Well, me being me, I put it off longer than I should have, but just now (and I'm talking only a couple of hours ago), got back from a complete examination by a recommended Ophthalmologist. Fact of the matter is, I have a retinal tear, and probably have had one since I started this thread..(or maybe longer).  I'm headed to a different place first thing tomorrow morning so they can repair it with a Laser. At least I hope they can and will.  He wanted to get me there right away today, but I just couldn't get there (and have a ride home, which he said I'll need), until tomorrow morning. I imagine I can wait one more day, if I've waited this long already. (The Dr said that would be ok as well, as long as I get there in the morning) 
At any rate, as several mentioned, if you ever have something like this come on suddenly like mine did, go to a specialist to be sure. Don't be a dummy like me and figure you'll just have to get used to it. Had I believed that for too much longer, I may have ended up blind in one eye. Thanks again for the input. -- I had a life once.....now I have a Computer and a Modem. |
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 sailorPremium join:2003-10-21 Long Island kudos:6 | Good for you that you went to see a Ophthalmologist ( that is what my eye doc is )
And best of everything to you tomorrow....just relax the best you can and all will be fine in no time at all.
And do post back when you can to let us know how it all went with you..
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 jabarnutLight Years AwayPremium,MVM join:2005-01-22 Galaxy M31 kudos:2 | Thanks, sailor. I'm all freaked out at the moment and feel like a fool to have waited so long, but hopefully all will go well tomorrow. Think I'm signing off for the night. Talk to you soon.  -- I had a life once.....now I have a Computer and a Modem. |
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 WarzauPremium join:2000-10-26 Naperville, IL kudos:1 | reply to jabarnut Good thing you went, wait a tic I said ophthalmologist . It wasn't a issue of being a dummy. The optometrist should have referred you to the ophthalmologist. It seem it was beyond their scope of expertise. Anyway you are getting it repaired and that's what matters. |
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Speedy Recovery jabarnut I hope things went well for you today. I've been through similar and can definitely sympathize your plight. Been thinking about you.
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 jabarnutLight Years AwayPremium,MVM join:2005-01-22 Galaxy M31 kudos:2 1 edit | reply to jabarnut
Re: Eye Floaters-Anyone had or have them? Hi again folks...one last post just to fill you in. I see so many have viewed this thread (perhaps some found their way here in a search), that I thought I should tell you how it went in the event someone else ends up with the same problem. Maybe it will help you to know what to expect. I wasn't allowed to read or use the computer after the procedure... (and limited use for a while after that). The retinal surgeon dilated my eyes quite a bit, and I had to wait a while for that to take effect. I was actually in a couple of different rooms and two others looked at it before I saw the 'big cheese'. He was quite the comedian. They finally put me in the room where the laser equipment was, and when the Dr first came in the room to do the actual procedure, he said: "Wow! Cool! I've always wanted to see if I can learn how to operate all this stuff" lol!
Anyway, he seemed very confident like he had done a million of them. Took somewhere around 150 laser 'blasts' to complete the thing. (Not sure how that's relevant, but I happened to hear him say it when recording notes for his records and for the nurse). Very strange feeling..didn't really hurt much, but rather a dull pain in certain areas when he hit the 'trigger'. I'm certainly glad my wife came to drive me home. For a while all I could see is complete darkness in that eye, and a big bright light in the center from the laser...nothing else. (Went away fairly fast).
He felt it went very well, and I'll have to go back in 2 weeks so he can see how it's healing. (I'll feel a lot better after my next checkup, once I know it's healing well). I still have a bunch of floaters which, in itself, the laser surgery to repair the tear doesn't 'fix', but there's a chance they'll subside a bit over time now that the tear is repaired. (They also may not, but I'll put up with it a lot better eventually, if I at least know my retina is no longer torn, and my chances of a complete retina detachment are minimized).
Again, thanks for the comments. I appreciated it. And PLEASE, if you ever have something similar, don't hesitate for even a moment to see a specialist. Yes, a *specialist* as some of you mentioned. Not some dimwit who is apparently only adequately trained to fit you for eyeglasses.  I learned a lot from this thread, and from the experience.
Oh, and JALevinworth...I tried to give you a "thumbs up", but it apparently isn't working. But thanks just the same for your thoughts.  -- I had a life once.....now I have a Computer and a Modem. |
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 CylonRedPremium,MVM join:2000-07-06 Bloom County | quote: "Wow! Cool! I've always wanted to see if I can learn how to operate all this stuff" lol!
Almost sounds like the 'Meaning of Life' when the Dr knew the important hospital staff was going to be around and wanted all of the machines they could fine - especially the one that went 'PING'.  -- Brian
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 whizkid3Premium,MVM join:2002-02-21 Queens, NY kudos:8 | reply to jabarnut I have them. They suck. (They are so common, my guess is that most of the 94 people who posted here, have them as well.)
After a while, your brain's perception compensates for them, and you won't see them anymore. |
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| reply to jabarnut So, I thought about the fact that I got one nasty floater a little over a year ago. It was a long thread right through the middle of my vision. The next day it broke apart, wrapped around itself and gave me three sperm-like things for me to look at.
Went to the optometrist who said the same thing, those are big but everything looks OK, just come back in if things get worse. I've had some floaters for many years so I was wondering if maybe this new one would qualify as "things got worse". After reading these posts, I thought I'd get it looked at by an opthamologist.
My doctor also did my lasik 10 years ago and was a pioneer in that area but he didn't do anything different than what my optometrist did and said the same thing. "Yep. You've got some big ones there." But it's good to get a second opinion.
What's cool was I mentioned I designed a computer system for eye surgery many years ago and he was familiar with it, calling it one of the best machines he ever had. I'm so proud. |
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