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Davesnothere
Change is NOT Necessarily Progress
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Re: CNOC's Part 1 Filing on the 703/704 tariffs

said by jfmezei:

With Bell seemingly ready to negotiate, it is quite possible that it would give a better DSL deal if the ISP promises to not make a compelling Cable offer to stop the bleeding of customers from DSL to Cable.

Remember that if Bell is to embrace indie ISPs, it is because they will help Bell regain some market share against Cable.

An ISP who continues to move customers from DSL to Cable is less likely to get a sweet deal from Bell.

 
So it seems only a question of who will blink first at the table, Mirko - or folks such as Rocky/Marc.

However, if Bell does not become more competitive in their rates to the Indies (such as by stopping or reducing substantially their $99 FIB hookup extortion, their Dry Loop 'monthly rental', and their BullShit Demarcation repair politics fee - and JUST FIX THINGS for us - like Cablecos ALL do - as well as) by reducing the new CBB rate to something reasonable and not playing business account logins against residential ones with the Indies, then the bleed will continue, AND occur from MORE openings.

It could be death by a million paper cuts for Bell, if they do not smarten up about the big picture, instead of continuing to be so shortsighted for the numbers for every next shareholders' meeting.

But so much for my/our rhetoric....

Has Bell or any other incumbent published 2011 year-end financials yet, including customer count/churn figures ?

Might shed some light on where things really are going, and at what velocity.

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Bell seems to be the company that hates its own worker bees and customers. To them, both of them are nothing but a drain on the earning results and nothing else. I think the only reason why they are turning around is that they hate the Cableco too.
jfmezei
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It's begun... filings coming thorugh.
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MTS Allstream files some strange document format. Converted to .PDF for you.
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Cable Carriers's reply
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CAIP's reply
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Bell Canada's comments.
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59677028 (banned) to Davesnothere

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said by Davesnothere:

said by jfmezei:

With Bell seemingly ready to negotiate, it is quite possible that it would give a better DSL deal if the ISP promises to not make a compelling Cable offer to stop the bleeding of customers from DSL to Cable.

Remember that if Bell is to embrace indie ISPs, it is because they will help Bell regain some market share against Cable.

An ISP who continues to move customers from DSL to Cable is less likely to get a sweet deal from Bell.

 
So it seems only a question of who will blink first at the table, Mirko - or folks such as Rocky/Marc.

However, if Bell does not become more competitive in their rates to the Indies (such as by stopping or reducing substantially their $99 FIB hookup extortion, their Dry Loop 'monthly rental', and their BullShit Demarcation repair politics fee - and JUST FIX THINGS for us - like Cablecos ALL do - as well as) by reducing the new CBB rate to something reasonable and not playing business account logins against residential ones with the Indies, then the bleed will continue, AND occur from MORE openings.

It could be death by a million paper cuts for Bell, if they do not smarten up about the big picture, instead of continuing to be so shortsighted for the numbers for every next shareholders' meeting.

But so much for my/our rhetoric....

Has Bell or any other incumbent published 2011 year-end financials yet, including customer count/churn figures ?

Might shed some light on where things really are going, and at what velocity.

ROFL
bell went into its IPTV instead of upgrading capacity for internet users, and they makea ton that way

BACONATOR26
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Nepean, ON

BACONATOR26

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When TV subs starts declining even further, Bell's IPTV investment will look foolish.
jfmezei
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Pointe-Claire, QC

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FibTV has nowhere to go but grow in the next few years because they started from scratch. But their expressvue may decline.

Their FTTN investment won't be wasted since it will be used for internet. So that leaves the central microsoft server farms and the software for it.

My guess is that Bell will have managed to pay back the investment before legacy TV distribution is no longer "big".