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1 edit | Wifi ethernet repeater question Ok, this is slightly embarassing...
This may sound like a silly question, but I just need to get it off my chest.
I have a DIR-600 N router in my apartment and 2 laptops with N wifi.
However, I also have a wired ethernet network printer and an Xbox 360 i want to hook up. The Xbox has a wireless module in it already, but I believe it's a G wifi card. They are in the same room and I can't pull a wire from the router to the printer.
So is it wrong to think that if I have an N repeater, I can link a repeater with ethernet ports to my wifi router, and plug the printer and the Xbox to it, then my printer will be networked (instead of current USB to 1 laptop) and my xbox will have faster networking? (as it's connected to ethernet of repeater, and repeater has N Wifi to laptops)
I'm fairly familiar with networking but I'm somewhat clueless with wireless. And I never use a repeater before.
Thank you!
ps: if it does work, anybody want to recommend a cheap reliable repeater with ethernet ports? |
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 AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium
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kudos:3 | Your xbox will have faster networking compared to what??
Your N network will not provide faster speed to G equipped units and may slow down your N devices but not to sure about how mixed environments work.
WHat I recommend is that you look at Trendnet coax adaptor (ethernet to coax etc) or Powerline type devices (ethernet to wall plugin) to bridge your router to the xbox and printer. You will get much better results and leave your N wifi as pure N.
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1 edit | said by Anav:Your xbox will have faster networking compared to what??
Your N network will not provide faster speed to G equipped units and may slow down your N devices but not to sure about how mixed environments work. ah my bad. i meant to the laptop. i often use the windows media center app in the xbox to stream movies from the laptop's Win7. i had an extender installed.
WHat I recommend is that you look at Trendnet coax adaptor (ethernet to coax etc) or Powerline type devices (ethernet to wall plugin) to bridge your router to the xbox and printer. You will get much better results and leave your N wifi as pure N.
and if the repeater is N, and router is N, and xbox and printer is connected through the Ethernet, wouldn't the Wireless still be "pure N"?
edit: powerline stuff looks really interesting. i can have a couple, 1 to wifi router, 1 to a switch shared between printer and xbox.... hmmm.... thanks! still kinda expensive though. |
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1 edit | I'm going to clarify terms here, not to be an anal-retentive geek (although it comes easily for me) but to make sure we're on the same page.
A repeater picks up the wireless signal - in this case from your D-Link - and retransmits it. You'd have two wireless signal sources, along with the wired ports you're seeking. The bad news is that repeaters halve the throughput.
If, on the other hand you're simply looking to extend the wireless signal you already have and make wired ports available to the Xbox and printer, you want a wireless bridge. Also known a client bridge or gaming adapter, many routers have this mode built in as an option.
I've set up a couple of ZyXEL routers in this mode for friends to do exactly what I think you're trying to do. The reason for using a router with client bridge mode over a specialized device is that it's usually cheaper and can be re-purposed later as a regular wireless router or access point if needed. |
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1 edit | reply to dsoegiarto
Your best solution is to go the powerline route and in the following way:
For powerline I suggest the Netgear XAVB501 kit -- includes 2 powerline unites
Your ISP MODEM -- your DIR 600 -- powerline into your DIR 600 LAN port
powerline near your printer and Xbox connected into a gigabit switch -- Xbox connected via Ethernet to the gigabit switch -- your printer connected into the switch -- many more options
In this way you will get superb performance.
N repeaters are not very good ... But if you used a number of N AP To extend your network that would work well. One of the options with powerline is to extend your wired and wireless with Access Points.
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| said by No_Strings:I'm going to clarify terms here, not to be an anal-retentive geek (although it comes easily for me) but to make sure we're on the same page.
A repeater picks up the wireless signal - in this case from your D-Link - and retransmits it. You'd have two wireless signal sources, along with the wired ports you're seeking. The bad news is that repeaters halve the throughput.
If, on the other hand you're simply looking to extend the wireless signal you already have and make wired ports available to the Xbox and printer, you want a wireless bridge. Also known a client bridge or gaming adapter, many routers have this mode built in as an option.
I've set up a couple of ZyXEL routers in this mode for friends to do exactly what I think you're trying to do. The reason for using a router with bridge client mode over a specialized device is that it's usually cheaper and and be re-purposed later as a regular wireless router or access point if needed.
Awesome! This is the explanation I need! Yes, I'm just throwing around the word "repeater" coz that's the one I got the from the Internet.
Looks like getting another router and running them as bridge mode is the easiest (and probably cheapest) option. Since I got a D-Link, maybe its best to get another D-Link? Now to find one that support bridge mode natively without flashing the firmware...
I had Zyxel firewalls in the office in the past, and they work great, but they aint cheap.
said by mozerd:Your best solution is to go the powerline route and in the following way:
For powerline I suggest the Netgear XAVB501 kit -- includes 2 powerline unites
Your ISP MODEM -- your DIR 600 -- powerline into your DIR 600 LAN port
powerline near your printer and Xbox connected into a gigabit switch -- Xbox connected via Ethernet to the gigabit switch -- your printer connected into the switch -- many more options
In this way you will get superb performance.
N repeaters are not very good ... But if you used a number of N AP To extend your network that would work well. One of the options with powerline is to extend your wired and wireless with Access Points.
I read a couple products and I think this would be best performance, but with a cost. Now im curious with the technology itself though... how would it find the other pair? and considering i gotta pick up a switch too, cost can be tricky.
but thanks for the recommendation! |
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| Glad I interpreted your predicament correctly. As to the hardware, I'll admit to not being up on the latest features, but the ZyXEL gear I was referring to was the consumer end of the spectrum. I have an NBG-419N, for example, which has this feature and it was pretty darned cheap when I bought it.
Tom's Hardware and similar sites list router features and might help you find something you're comfortable with. |
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said by dsoegiarto:I read a couple products and I think this would be best performance, but with a cost. Now im curious with the technology itself though... how would it find the other pair? and considering i gotta pick up a switch too, cost can be tricky. Your DIR 600 should serve your needs --- just add the powerline and the gigabit switch and that should enable you to accomplish your objectives.
Powerline via Amazon $108
gigabit switch via Amazon $55
Add a few Cat5e ethernet cables -- under $10 -- and you're done.
OOPS --- just noticed your from Vanier, ON --- in that case in Canada the Powerline I reccomeded would cast you $120 and will become available in February 2012. The Gig switch and Cat5e cables are more or less the same.  ShopRBC can get this stuff for you and their prices are very good.
How does Powerline work
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kudos:3 | reply to dsoegiarto
»www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/p···rts/view
To get real world throughput on uplink downlink averages and at distance locations from each other. Extremely informative and you can tune performance a bit to match your scenario. Be advised everyones electricals will differ. You will notice that distance does affect performance. The advantage of using coax vice electrical wiring is much less degradation over distance. I have an iMac 2008 approx 10 feet from an old g wifi router and Im seriously considering replacing the wifi connection with zyxel power line products just for giggles (no wired is not possible due to locations and visibilities)
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mozerdLight Will Pierce The DarknessPremium,MVM
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To get real world throughput on uplink downlink averages and at distance locations from each other.
Be advised everyones electricals will differ. Because everyones electricals will differ - without a shadow of doubt -- the test done by smallnetbuilder.com are 'real-world' only to Tom's specific location -- so in fact there is very little 'real world' about it. Tests done in other locations will be dramatically different based on my findings to date testing Belkin, Netgear and TRENDnet. The most import metric is 'stability' and 'consistency' over distance and location.
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kudos:3 | So are you saying tom has dirty electricals or you have crappy wiring  |
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all very informative, thank u!
after more readings, i think ill be picking up a Powerline (in the near future after i save up abit) from ncix.com. seems like they have good deals with 500Mb kit (pair of 'em) are $80 - $100. TrendNet too. never heard of that brand until i start searching for powerlines n people seems to vouch for them too...
then an extra Gigabit switch. |
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