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nickstoy

join:2001-02-03
Saint-Lazare, QC

Tethering from cell phone in a remote location

Hi guys

years ago I had made a thread about getting high speed Internet in Lac-des-plages (postal code J0T 1K0). Its one of the crucial steps to allow my folks to retire.

Long story short, no ISP can deliver decent Internet..even when they claim they can.

Then I got myself a new cellphone, and I've been able to get a decent 2mbps stable connection. Only problem is I need to place the phone in a specific window, not an inch away from that sweet spot. I managed to work a few hours and tethered 600mb in no time.

My question is: What pre-requisites do I need when buying a cell phone so that my folks can enjoy the same connection quality?

I got the stable connection with my Samsung galaxy SII, on Virgin. I collected some info that is as clear as chinese to me...I'll post the screenshots here.

I've already tried Rogers and didnt get any signal.

My wife has a LG-p500h phone and got signal, shes with Koodo (TELUS).


DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
Premium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Bell Sympatico

said by nickstoy:

Only problem is I need to place the phone in a specific window, not an inch away from that sweet spot. I managed to work a few hours and tethered 600mb in no time.

Now go read your contract with Virgin (which is a division of Bell). Do you have a data plan? What are the limits? Is tethering allowed? My Bell contract says tethering is not allowed and that they can change me $15/mb for tethering internet access. Your little experiment could have cost you $9,000 on my business plan.
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nickstoy

join:2001-02-03
Saint-Lazare, QC

Wow...I'll definitively have a look at it when I get back home!

But...how would they know?

On top of my head my contract includes data, and is a variable rate: x$ for 1-10mb, xx$ for 10-50, etc. its 50$ for 1gb.

Keep in mind my folks will be using about 100mb/mnth.



BliZZardX
Premium
join:2002-08-18
Toronto, ON
Reviews:
·Bell Sympatico
·WIND Mobile

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reply to nickstoy
For some reason this program you're running say Cell Signal Strength: Unknown. In Android go to Settings > About Phone > Status > Signal Strength. Write down the RSSI values for different spots around your home. The scale here is 0 to -110 dBm, with the highest values (closer to 0) indicating a stronger signal. If the network isn't busy you'll receive fast speeds if you are above -77 dBm and the fastest between 0 and -50 dBm.

I'm surprised Bell has HSPA in that postal code, that's very remote...

If your cell phone gets good signal there, other devices will too. You can buy a USB HSPA modem, but be careful like DKS says because the data package Virgin sells is capped at 5GB and then they charge 5 cents per megabyte.

Virgin says additional usage on cell phone plans is $10/GB so at most he paid $10 for this experiment. On the data plan 600MB at 5 cents/MB is $30. If he didn't have a data plan he wouldn't be able to surf period because they put you behind a walled garden / paywall. DKS you need a new business provider...


nickstoy

join:2001-02-03
Saint-Lazare, QC

Varies but its un the -100 area.

I have many pages of the same type of info. the lowest it has gone is -113.

So the phone itself doest matter? My dad isnt too hot about paying 500$ phones.

I will look up those modems too. Anything I should know in order to shop?



vitesse

join:2002-12-17
Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu, QC
Reviews:
·ELECTRONICBOX
·TekSavvy DSL
·Bell Sympatico
·Videotron
·voip.ms

reply to nickstoy
You can buy 3g router so you can place the router in the best location or use an antenna, indoor or outdoor

one example is this router from cell extreme,

»cellextreme.info/cart/index.php?···s_id=583

then you only need to buy a 3g data connection like 6gb for 30$
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nickstoy

join:2001-02-03
Saint-Lazare, QC

my company provided me with ab internet stick from Rogers...I get no signal at sll. Do they use the same towers?



BliZZardX
Premium
join:2002-08-18
Toronto, ON
Reviews:
·Bell Sympatico
·WIND Mobile

reply to nickstoy
How about outside? I don't know the topography of that area but some HSPA modems have connectors for external antennas, if you can figure out the exactly location of the nearest cell site you could just buy a yagi and point directly at it.

No they don't use the same towers.

Bell/Telus: »www.coveragemapper.com/map.php?m···etType=3
Rogers: »www.coveragemapper.com/map.php?m···etType=3

It looks like Bell/Telus are reaching you via equipment on Highway 323. Point south across the lake?



vitesse

join:2002-12-17
Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu, QC
Reviews:
·ELECTRONICBOX
·TekSavvy DSL
·Bell Sympatico
·Videotron
·voip.ms

reply to nickstoy
They sell a wireless router... you plug your usb 3g stick on it and it share the internet. you can use anyone signal with this.

Somme router are able to use a simple simcard and have all the 3g hardware inside, this model is able to use external antenna if needed. Cell extreme used to cell this hardware but not anymore, I don't know why


nickstoy

join:2001-02-03
Saint-Lazare, QC

Allright, thanks everyone!

I think we may go with the cell phone option for now and try the modems down the road when we get to know the best spots in the house.

I will also make sure to read the contract thoroughly for tethering. Oh and no one has answered how they would know we're tethering?

THANKS!



vitesse

join:2002-12-17
Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu, QC
Reviews:
·ELECTRONICBOX
·TekSavvy DSL
·Bell Sympatico
·Videotron
·voip.ms

if you get wireless signal from Vidéotron network, they do allow tethering on their network.

As for the other member of the "cartel" I do think they will know if you are tethering. I already see few user in the Bell forum with impressive bill for tethering.


nickstoy

join:2001-02-03
Saint-Lazare, QC

reply to DKS

said by DKS:

said by nickstoy:

Only problem is I need to place the phone in a specific window, not an inch away from that sweet spot. I managed to work a few hours and tethered 600mb in no time.

Now go read your contract with Virgin (which is a division of Bell). Do you have a data plan? What are the limits? Is tethering allowed? My Bell contract says tethering is not allowed and that they can change me $15/mb for tethering internet access. Your little experiment could have cost you $9,000 on my business plan.



BliZZardX
Premium
join:2002-08-18
Toronto, ON

robbery.. even rogers disables browsing if you don't have data


Michael9009

join:2006-07-28
Toronto, ON

reply to nickstoy
You can use these tools to see what cell towers are in your neighbourhood, as well as their location:

»loxcel.com/celltower
»www.ertyu.org/steven_nikkel/canc···tes.html


X10A

join:2004-07-13
Brossard, QC
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
·TekSavvy DSL

reply to nickstoy
since you have tested virgin mobile works you have 2 easy way to do this.

1- if your parents home only have 1 computer and beside that sweet spot simply just get a data stick and connect usb to it. Since you are buying data anyways you can sign a contract and get the device for free

2- buy a 3g router just like the previous post mentioned... and then buy a sim. That may cost you 200 dollar on hardware alone... Make sure the router's 3g is compatible with bell's network.

AFAIK virgin's plan is up to 2gb(I think) for 25 dollar, and bell have a plan 35$ for 5gb, they are robbery but since your situation is so limited they seem to be the only way to go.

There is a forum that is more gear towards cellphone company »www.howardforums.com if you decide to go celleur route def take a look there.



amirk999

join:2002-02-23
Burlington, ON

reply to nickstoy
Since Virgin and Bell use the same network, sign up for the promo $30 for 6GB plan with a cheap voice plan. Get a Galaxy S II that can tether and use that. I've had it before and used it to tether without being charged extra.


xtachx

join:2005-11-19
canada
Reviews:
·Mobilicity
·voip.ms

reply to nickstoy

said by nickstoy:

Wow...I'll definitively have a look at it when I get back home!

But...how would they know?

On top of my head my contract includes data, and is a variable rate: x$ for 1-10mb, xx$ for 10-50, etc. its 50$ for 1gb.

Keep in mind my folks will be using about 100mb/mnth.

Go with koodo. They run on the same network as virgin, gives you 3GB data for $30 (thats flex as well. 100MB would be $15 or so)

Tethering is included and you can use a huawei hotspot device. Thats $100 ish.
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BaCkLaSH86

join:2010-11-25

reply to nickstoy
There is DSL in lac des plages and xittel (microwave). Why do you bother tethering? The tower in st-emile has about 50mbs a sec and is not really stable in LDP. Call Télébec and have them check your phone number for DSL availability. If you got questions PM me, i'm from the area not LDP but 2 towns away and know the architecture.


BaCkLaSH86

join:2010-11-25

BTW no dry loop in the 819-426 nxx, you would need a phone line


nickstoy

join:2001-02-03
Saint-Lazare, QC

reply to BaCkLaSH86
Our neighbour hooked up with the telbec high speed and barely get 56kbps....


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