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Grimm

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reply to Rook008

Re: [Sci-Fi] Walking Dead, Season 3 news!

said by Rook008:

Whoever was responsible for turning this show into shit should be ashamed of themselves.

This may answer the question. (BTW, I recognized it was Sam from TFU games when the episode aired. Though none of my friends agreed lol)

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCyjdBac6p4

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Rook008
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That does help.


Octavean
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reply to Grimm
Is it wise to speak out like that?

Does the phrase “you‘ll never work in this town again“ mean nothing to him?

LOL, just kidding but still,…..

I’m sure there is a lot that goes into the production of shows that either never come to fruition because they never got out of the idea stage or was cut off at the knees midway,….

Stuff happens,…..but the show must go on,...


Grimm

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I agree with you. IIRC he says something along the lines of "being able to talk about it now" so he atleast abided by some rule(s).

I just felt like something was different between S1 & S2 and this explains it. I'm just ashamed at myself for not figuring it out sooner.
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Reno7
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reply to Grimm

I remember watching one of the DVD extras from Stargate SG1 when Amanda Tapping started talking about all the budget issues they had that went all the way to things like they couldn't afford hair spray for her (something like that). They had to scrounge all season saving money for special effects in season cliff hangers.

I would have enjoyed seeing that back story of the soldier.

PS. I want Hershal's magic shotgun.


Snakeoil
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reply to Grimm
They let the producer go, and I think they even fired the writers, after season one.
Their excuse of cutting the writers was that the majority of shows on TV today don't have dedicated writers.
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Snakeoil
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reply to Reno7
quote:
PS. I want Hershal's magic shotgun.

I agree. That thing must of had 50 or more rounds in it, or a magazine.
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Omega
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reply to lotusracer
It was a decent ending to a poor season. Anyway, this is my prediction:

Lori's baby, and thus all to be born will have an immunity to the disease. They will no longer turn when they die.
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Octavean
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The farm aspect seemed to be expanded upon in the TV series over the book. I agree the farm got old fast but I still think they did a better job of it in the TV series then they did in the book (overall).

Fair enough but how would one go about proving whether they were immune. Perhaps someone surviving a bite,…..?


Omega
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Since it is a TV show, surviving the bite would be the most likely option to prove that humanity had hope.

I can see the series finale now. Flash ahead a couple years. Zombies still exist, little kid gets bitten, does not develop fever or die. Humanity has hope.

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Snakeoil
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Thing I'm curious about, what is the life span of a zombie? There has to come a point where it's too far gone to be mobile.
I can understand if it is finding stuff to eat, that the rot process would slow down. But if all it's doing is bum stepping and not eating, it should be rotting at the normal rate anything else rots at, unless the virus somehow manages to slow down the rot process.

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Octavean
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I think they covered that already in various ways. Some zombies are more mobile then others. The more sprightly ones are likely more fresh then the slower lethargic ones.



MaxPowers

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reply to lotusracer
So what the hell was Lori's problem?? Was she mad that Rick killed Shane? Carl shot zombie Shane? She doesn't know who's baby she's carrying??
I was also confused how fast Carol turned on Rick. Him and Daryl were the ones that wanted to find your daughter the most!


Jay_
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Yea, the whole Carol disrespecting Rick thing is getting old. I think she still blames him for leaving her in the woods by herself when he tried to draw away the walkers but he told Sophia to STAY PUT and she didn't. I'm glad he told them all off, he's tired of being disrespected when he's been forced into a leadership role.
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Grimm

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Badass Rick is a good Rick and from their reactions, and not to sound too sexist, the men of the group seem to agree and understand while the women all have the look of "durrrr" on their faces. There needs to be some sort of order or shit's gonna constantly hit the fan.

Also, I was really hoping Carol was going to get munched on. I can't stand women with short hair and she was annoying.
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SixOfNine
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reply to lotusracer
Good article on cracked.com. I love #2.

This article contains spoilers if you haven't finished watching Season 2.

»www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-t···=fanpage
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Octavean
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reply to lotusracer
I think part of the focus of the show is to address how people can come unglued under such extreme circumstances. Its basically a living hell, a holocaust without end,….until one dies,….and comes back! There is no reason to expect rational behavior from the characters (at least not all the time).

Rick is something of a focal point to the show and the group of characters. Presumably we are to be witnesses to how Rick changes throughout the show from beginning to end.

Rick asserting himself as an undisputed leader isn’t necessarily characteristic of the man we first came across in episode one and it isn’t necessarily a good thing,….a dictatorship (or in this case a “Rick-tatorship“) simply isn’t a good thing from a typically western point of view.



As an American and someone who loves democracy its more then a little disturbing.

“Sic semper tyrannis”


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A Rick-tatorship wouldn't be a good thing for a country, but for a small group of people trying to survive a zombie apocalypse, a level-headed Rick may be just what they need.

Also, they could use some better writers.
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Rook008
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reply to SixOfNine
That was pretty good.
Thanks.


Snakeoil
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reply to lotusracer
Finally saw the entire show. DVR cuts it off earlier looks like prison next season.


Octavean
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reply to Rook008
said by Rook008:

A Rick-tatorship wouldn't be a good thing for a country, but for a small group of people trying to survive a zombie apocalypse, a level-headed Rick may be just what they need.

Also, they could use some better writers.

Perhaps, but who is to say he is or will remain level headed,….? Also once you’ve handed over power to someone how do you take it back if they start to lose their mind due to the stress,……?

History is full of examples of why one person shouldn’t have absolute power and or blind followers. However as a quote I rather like the lyrics of the Megadeath song “Symphony of Destruction”:

quote:
You take a mortal man, and put him in control. Watch him become a god, watch peoples heads a'roll


TigerLord
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reply to lotusracer
Lori is such a dumb bitch, she needs to die PRONTO!


Reno7
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said by TigerLord:

Lori is such a dumb bitch, she needs to die PRONTO!

I didn't like the actress from Prison Break either. There's something annoying about her like she has a 'annoying and almost always angry' witch vibe radiating from her.

I can't for the life of me figure out how she could go from the evil depths of manipulating Rick into doing something one day and then freak out like he's the monster when he actually does what she tried to manipulate him into doing.


Rook008
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reply to Octavean
Good point, but Rick does seem to be the natural choice for a leader in that situation. Or at least, he's the best they have. He's good with a gun, has some experience in dealing with people, and he has a family to protect, which should limit the risk-taking.

And it's pretty easy to get rid of someone during a zombie apocalypse.
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Rook008
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reply to TigerLord
I'd like to see Lori, Carol, and Carl get zombified sometime soon.


Voxxjin
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reply to lotusracer
Finally got to see the last two episodes. I had avoided this thread until I could see them. And I have to agree with everyone. Why can't they keep carl penned up? In the second to last episode they all lock themselves in the house but carl gets out and finds his dad? WTF?
glad shane died. his whole hating rick shit was getting old.

As for the last episode, are these people just plain stupid? Why r they just driving around like maniacs shooting. I can see driving, shooting then driving to a safe distance, shooting again and rinse and repeat.
So all the zombies followed a helicopter that they only saw for a minute? Hell just get a helicopter to fly over the zombies and then fly out over the ocean.
Lori is schizo. One day she hates shane, the next she tries to be friends, then gets mad at rick when he kills shane when shane was gonna kill rick?
And whats her name, sophia's mom dissing rick when he has done so much in trying to find sophia.
No plans to meet up if the farm was attacked?
Why not leave is too many zombies and come back in a couple of days? they probably would have left by then.


My biggest issue with the show is everyone keeps changing how they feel. Almost like they had two sets of writers that had different views on how each person should feel and then alternated on the episodes.

But I will be watching in the fall.
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Voxxjin
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Oh one more thing. Why is it all their vehicles are old? Why didn't they get newer trucks during their whole time at teh farm? Also surprised they never tried to fortify the vehicles (bars on the windows or something).
Also darryl's motorcycle is loud. Wouldn't that likely attract walkers versus a quieter vehicle?
When they first came across the farm, they seemed to use horses a lot, now they never do.
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Octavean
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reply to Rook008
People are in one way or another calling for the heads of the characters they don’t much care for such as Lori and (get in the damn house A.K.A) “Carl”. However, what would such a loss do to someone like Rick who probably consider them the only thing worth living for?

Also note, if it hasn’t been said outright (although I think it has) regardless of Rick’s ethical views he’s going to put the safety of “Lori” and (god damn it, I told you to get in the house A.K.A) “Carl” as well as his unborn childe above that of anyone else.

So anyone else in the group is third at best and they should know it. Prioritizing is pragmatic and no one wants to be low man on the totem pole especially when the fit hits the shan.

said by Rook008:

And it's pretty easy to get rid of someone during a zombie apocalypse.

Fair enough but it sounds like you just want to shoot Rick if he starts acting the lest bit odd (Shane like?). The simple answer to such a problem is to have more then one person in charge or at least some sort of a contingency.


Grimm

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I'm not sure who I'd like gone more, Carl or Lori, but I agree that they are pretty much the only reason Rick has to live. I do think one of them has to go though so that the other two can get on the same level of the rest of the group with the suffering.

Maybe the 4th episode from the last where Lori and Andrea are conversing in the kitchen and Andrea calls Lori out, I have to side with Andrea. While the world has gone to crap, Rick and his family are doing pretty good considering the circumstances.

...atleast thats what I think...
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Octavean
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Yeah, I suspect that’s part of the reason the writers wanted Carl to be injured via gunshot. They wanted to create the illusion that Rick and his family have been grievously injured without having to commit long-term via losing a key character (or rather losing a character key to Rick). Push comes to shove, Rick Grimes and his family haven’t suffered to the same degree that many of the other characters have.