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cjski
The Wheel Weaves As The Wheel Will

join:2001-01-04
Sun City, CA

Inner/Outer tie rods

2004 Chevy Silverado 5.3 2WD

I need to replace the inner tie rods, so I thought I might as well replace the outers while I'm at it...

I can pick up the inners and outers from Autozone (Duralast) for about $100...or, go higher quality from Rock Auto for $140-$200. Question is, should I get the cheaper, or more expensive?

PrntRhd
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join:2004-11-03
Fairfield, CA

Are you keeping your truck for a while?
Do you carry payloads with the truck?



mattmag
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-04-09
NW Illinois
kudos:3

reply to cjski


In my experience with automotive parts, in nearly all cases with some exceptions, you get what you pay for. The higher quality parts generally have longer service lives, are easier to install, and have subtle differences that make the extra cost worth it.


dbsanfte

join:2005-03-15
Montreal, QC

reply to cjski
Never expect an "economy" part to last longer than its warranty, and never be surprised when it (often) doesn't. Get the premium part unless you enjoy the effort of disassembling and reassembling your front end.


Waterbug

join:2008-03-30

reply to cjski
How many miles on the truck and how long do you expect to keep it ? I would expect the cheaper parts to match the OEM parts and the expensive parts to last longer. Do you plan on doubling the millage before you discard/sell the truck? If you don't plan on doubling the millage, go with the cheaper parts.


cjski
The Wheel Weaves As The Wheel Will

join:2001-01-04
Sun City, CA

reply to cjski
We have about 98K on the truck. We tow a toyhauler to the beach a few times a year...but mostly it's just driven back and forth to work (8 mi R/T).



EGeezer
Summertime
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join:2002-08-04
Midwest
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reply to cjski
+1 to spend the extra money for better parts. I hate wasting time putting el cheapo parts on stuff I want to keep.



Juggernaut
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join:2006-09-05
Everywhere
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Yea, go for the good ones. Tie rod failure is a catastrophic event.


dbsanfte

join:2005-03-15
Montreal, QC

To be fair, even an economy tie rod will not simply separate from the joint without giving some warning.



mattmag
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-04-09
NW Illinois
kudos:3

said by dbsanfte:

To be fair, even an economy tie rod will not simply separate from the joint without giving some warning.

A poor assumption, actually, as any part is capable of failure without any type of "warning" or notice.

dbsanfte

join:2005-03-15
Montreal, QC
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You're right. The entire tie-rod end could fail catastrophically at speed, separate from the joint completely at random, shear the nut and cotter pin, and kill you, but that's not anywhere near the typical failure mode of a tie rod end, or we'd have millions of deaths a year.



mattmag
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join:2000-04-09
NW Illinois
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reply to dbsanfte

Re: Inner/Outer tie rods

said by dbsanfte:

You're right. The entire tie-rod end could fail catastrophically at speed, separate from the joint completely at random, shear the nut and cotter pin, and kill you, but that's not anywhere near the typical failure mode of a tie rod end, or we'd have millions of deaths a year.

Not sure what your point is with that dramatic rant...

Your statement that a part will not fail without warning is patently false, and failures do indeed happen with no warning. Whether or not it is "catastrophic" or not is dependent on the situation at hand.

PrntRhd
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join:2004-11-03
Fairfield, CA

reply to cjski
FYI
I lost a high school classmate caused by a front suspension failure at speed; the car rolled over him after ejecting him from the car.
After that experience I always tried to be very cautious when it comes to suspension hardware quality.


bgraham

join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
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reply to cjski
If a part is that important then you might want to go with the OEM part.

I am seriously considering stopping buying from parts stores. I replaced the front hubs on my wife's car. After 120k miles they both had 1/8" of slack in them.

Well, after 10,000 miles the left one failed. When I took it off the car I noticed it had Made in China.

I paid extra for SKF brand because of their name as a great European and worldwide bearing manufacturer. I worked in the printing industry for 20 years and we used a lot of SKF bearings and never replaced any of them.

This is the third time I have had "parts store" parts fail after a short time.


dbsanfte

join:2005-03-15
Montreal, QC
Reviews:
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reply to PrntRhd
You can use economy tie rods if your goal is to keep the vehicle in service for a few months to a year, there will be no harm. Should you wish to keep it longer, given the cost of an alignment, I'd recommend a premium part, but an economy tie rod isn't (statistically) going to kill you. Total separation is vanishingly rare and usually happens to owners who ignore the symptoms far longer than common sense would dictate.


cjski
The Wheel Weaves As The Wheel Will

join:2001-01-04
Sun City, CA

reply to cjski
On the rock auto website, thet're are 2 different outers, 1 for 'rack' steer or 'gear' steer...which one is mine?



Juggernaut
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join:2006-09-05
Everywhere
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Do you have rack and pinion, or a steering box?


cjski
The Wheel Weaves As The Wheel Will

join:2001-01-04
Sun City, CA

reply to cjski

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Started working on my tie-rods...

after pulling back the boot from the steering rack-inner tie rod...why all the oil? bad seal at rack? what's that pink thingy? some kind of plasticky thingy...


mattmag
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-04-09
NW Illinois
kudos:3



May as well take back the tie rod ends, you need a new rack assembly, since the seals are shot. The steering pump may also be on the way out looking at the color of that fluid. If it passes a pressure test after being flushed out it may do OK, but it needs to be flushed clean no matter what.

The plastic part is either a guide bushing that has broken and slid out of the rack, or it is just an assembly sleeve. Can't tell by the picture, but in any case the rack has to be replaced.


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