| Cold weather equipment Tranzeo - Ubiquiti Hello
Need to bridge two buildings together. Appox 800ft apart, clear LOS, very little interference.
Currently have deliberant G units.
Owners want more throughput so looking at the
Tranzeo EX2-8
Ubiquiti' Nanostation M5
Both look good, I have read through the posts and found good and bad about both units.
Here is the question -
We are in the Northwest Territories so Dec - Feb temperatures are in the -30 range can get -40.
Which of these units will stay operating at these temperatures. We are looking for stability first, speed second.
Thanks for any comments.
(What is difference between nano and nano loco) |
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| I have been using the 2.4 ghz ubiquiti grids here in winnipeg and they've been rock solid throughout the winter. I think you guys are a little colder up there, but not too much. |
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| reply to jetskibiz
I'd go with the Ubnt line. Keep with the integrated units and avoid the bullets at all costs for your situation.
At 5.8 you would be the best off. At your distance and LOS you could crank them both right down to the lowest. In best scenarios in 20mhz if it's all clear and well tuned, you can expect 70mbps TCP.
I'd avoid Tranzeo, for the fact that we have had cold/bad weather issues with them. They may have changed things over the years, but we won't look back.
Another thing to consider is the MT integrated 5.8 radios (Can't remember the models). From what I'm told their throughput sucks at the moment due to firmware issues. I'm sure there is a combo that works, but you'll wind up with more homework if you expect to break past the Ubnt radios. They have a learning curve as far as programming goes. As well as the general firmware bullshitteries that's been going on lately.
If you want it to just work, go Ubnt. If you want to take a chance and go with something that "should" go a little faster, and you're comfortable with some experiementing go with MT. If you're on a timeline and must do it right the first time, don't take the chance with MT and grab the Ubnt. You can't go wrong with them. |
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 CMack
join:2004-07-30
canada | reply to jetskibiz
You wouldnt believe it but under this hoar frost lies 2 UBNT PS2 radios and 60 degree sector antennas, worked all winter, and are still working 3 years later. No UBNT, you can't use these for marketing  |
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| Thanks for the quick replies!
You got me set to buy the Ubiquiti's, I then went on their forums and found "New batch LocoM2 LOW signal!", seems that people are having a problem. I looked at the MT and it is interesting but there is no one on-site if it needed any tweaking. To bad as they are rated -40!
I will be on a time line and it needs to just work.
Have been really happy with the deliberants and see they have some new equipment - APC 2M-14 - that is rated to -40 also.
Any one have any info on these and also if the Ubiquiti problem would be an issue?
Thanks again!
Great Pictures - Makes me wonder who get to go up and chip the ice off when there is a problem! |
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jcremin
join:2009-12-22
Siren, WI
kudos:2 | said by jetskibiz :You got me set to buy the Ubiquiti's, I then went on their forums and found "New batch LocoM2 LOW signal!", seems that people are having a problem. At 800 feet, I'm sure even if you happened to get a "low signal" unit, it wouldn't probably be an issue, and might actually be desirable.
I haven't been on the forums to check, but is this something that UBNT has confirmed as an issue?
Also, rather than getting the "nanostation loco M2" just buy the non-loco "nanostation M2", or go with one of the M5 units as it will probably be cleaner spectrum anyway. |
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| reply to jetskibiz
Stay away from 2.4 unless you have zero option of 5.8 in your area.
You will have much better performance and reliability IMHO with 5.8
Your LOS specs and such are just fine for 5.8 |
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| reply to jcremin
I would stay away from the nanobridge5 for a while too. New issues with them in the cold.
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| The UBNT techs are working on the problem and lots of posts there about it. I am most concerned about the cold weather performance.
UBNT is having some problems.
Consensus seems against tranzeo.
Deliberant does not know when equipment will be approved.
Microtik ?
Once Microtik is set up is it stable? I just need this to work when I am done. If I have to spend some extra time setting units up and they are stable when finished is okay.
I just do not want to have to think about them once setup is done.
Any other equipment I should look at.
Order of importance
Reliability
Speed
Price |
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| reply to jetskibiz
The UBNT techs are working on the problem and lots of posts there about it. I am most concerned about the cold weather performance.
UBNT is having some problems.
Consensus seems against tranzeo.
Deliberant does not know when equipment will be approved.
Microtik ?
Once Microtik is set up is it stable? I just need this to work when I am done. If I have to spend some extra time setting units up and they are stable when finished is okay.
I just do not want to have to think about them once setup is done.
Any other equipment I should look at.
Order of importance
Reliability
Speed
Sorry about double post - - made an account |
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| Cambium? |
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| Mikrotik is good in cold weather, and well so is ubiquiti except for the current issue to a run of NB5s.
Mikrotik is very stable once set up but has much steeper learning curve.
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| reply to jetskibiz
Second that.
Ubnt has no problems with temperature except for the NanoBridge units... Which you probably should NOT use anyway given your situation. You are much better with the regular NanoStations.
I run these things at -35C and no problems. |
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| reply to jetskibiz
Has anyone used the new Deliberant APC 5M-18 yet for an application like this? |
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| reply to jetskibiz
what's your price range? |
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| I have not been able to find any of the APC Deliberant units. I was told they are still waiting for approval by one vendor?
We would like to keep this under $600.00, it is only 800 feet. The g equipment we have is working but is going on 7 years now so time to at least think of updating. We can stay with g but we would like to get the faster speeds if possible. |
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| +1 on the UNBT stuff. I have several links using a variety of their radios including Nanostation, Nanobridge, & Powerbridge gear. For your situation I would go with the Nanostation M5 pair. |
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| reply to jetskibiz
600 isn't terribly much. go with the M5's |
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